The FOFC Chess Cup

Airhog · 02-01-2003, 06:38 AM

no offense to MattJones, but the thought of playing a game over a week is way too slow for my tastes, although that much time might improve my game considerably

I also would be challenged to play some games, because I quite often have to go out of town for 4 days. So I decide to host the first Chess tournament. I wish I had the software to pair on the Swiss system, but unfortunately I do not.

Registration will be open until the middle of next week. Please post here if you want to be included.

We will go with a single elimination tournamet. Instead of playing one game per round, each round will be a 3 match long series. Standard points will be used 1 point for a win 1/2 point for a draw, 0 points for a loss. If you win the first two games, you do not have to play the third. If after 3 games that points remained tied, you will continue to play games. The lower seeded player will get white twice. Seedings will be determined randomly. If we play more than one tournament then future seedings will be determined by place.

The games themselves can be played anywhere online that the two people agree too. I would recommend Yahoo chess, simply because it does not require software and is very easy to use. It also allows you to easily e-mail the results of your matches back to yourself. The results of each game should be posted when done. If time permits, I will try to run some of the close matches through fritz7 and show some analysis of the matches.

The time controls of the tournament will be 15 minutes and a 3 second increment. Normally I wouldnt use a increment. This is the only downside to yahoo, that it dosent allow time in a number of moves. This time limit is pretty quick, and should allow you to play all your games in one sitting. Please set aside 1 and 1/2 hours to play your games if possible.

Also no using a computer to play for you, or use a program to Analyze the game as it runs. The second part shouldnt be a problem, but I will find out if you run a computer program. They are not as diffucult to spot as one may think. And I dont imagine that anyone here has an ELO of 1600 or 1700. Feel free to post any questions in the thread below

Participants

Airhog

Taco

SaintAnselm

RPI-Fan

samifan24

Ryche

TheLionKing

Schmidty

Patman

MattJones4Heisman

Shorty3281

BoneGavel

Kwhit

Wbonnell

Primelord

BishopMVP

13 players so far, Lets shoot for 16 if possible, otherwise I may have to change a few things in the format

Also does anyone have any ideas, or discussion?

We have all the players we need. Matches will be posted shortly

Taco · 02-01-2003, 11:04 AM

Great! I'd like to play. Thanks, Airhog!

Airhog · 02-01-2003, 11:38 AM

you have been added

SaintAnselm · 02-01-2003, 11:42 AM

I'm in!!

RPI-Fan · 02-01-2003, 12:01 PM

I'll play.

MJ4H · 02-01-2003, 12:11 PM

Ill play in this one but I will still have the longer correspondence style tournament as well.

Patman · 02-01-2003, 12:18 PM

I'll play

Schmidty · 02-01-2003, 12:35 PM

I'm a chess-aholic, so I'm definitey in!!!

Yahoo is the best free place to play in my opinion.

MJ4H · 02-01-2003, 12:48 PM

yahoo is the worst free place to play in my opinion. i recommend freechess.org

TLK · 02-01-2003, 12:56 PM

i'm in..... if anyone wants to get a few matches in tonight (non-tournament) I will be around.

TLK

Ryche · 02-01-2003, 01:10 PM

I'd like to play as well. Freechess.org is probably the best free site, but yahoo works well enough as well.

Schmidty · 02-01-2003, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattJones4Heisman
yahoo is the worst free place to play in my opinion. i recommend freechess.org

What's the problem with it?

I always seem to get talented, courteous people when I play there. Maybe I'm just lucky.

MJ4H · 02-01-2003, 03:27 PM

I could expound for hours about this, but besides the fact that it requires a java applet to run it (which fails quite often on most computers Ive used), there are a myriad of reasons to read through here:

Yahoo is bad because . . .

Schmidty · 02-01-2003, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattJones4Heisman
I could expound for hours about this, but besides the fact that it requires a java applet to run it (which fails quite often on most computers Ive used), there are a myriad of reasons to read through here:

Yahoo is bad because . . .

Thanks for the info!!!

samifan24 · 02-01-2003, 03:37 PM

I'm in for both.

Airhog · 02-01-2003, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattJones4Heisman
Ill play in this one but I will still have the longer correspondence style tournament as well.

That works for me, I will probably try to play in it too. As for yahoo, im not dictating where the matches be played, Im leaving it up too the two participants involved. To be honest, my favorite place to play is at freechess.org as well. I just didnt want to force everyone to play somewhere that you are best playing with a GUI like Winboard.

cuervo72 · 02-01-2003, 06:33 PM

Hmm, I don't think I can do anything other than a correspondence style tournament, my staff has already been slammed for playing chess at work so we have to be a little more descreet about things. I'd probably be interested in Matt's tourney though, I'll have to catch up on that thread.

I still would very highly recommend Gameknot though, I think it's a solid site. Good graphics, non-java based, and it will keep a complete list of games (and links to those boards for a while), export pgn files, calculate ratings, show result tables vs various opponents, etc. Also has a pop-up board where you can play out prospective moves. I haven't gotten into any teams or leagues, but it handles that too. It also offers options for days per move (from 3 to 14 I think), and the option to postpone games if needed. Oh, they run tournaments regularly too. I will have to check out freechess.org sometime to compare, it might very well be a better site, but Gameknot has worked for me.

MJ4H · 02-01-2003, 07:35 PM

its a different type of site. gameknot is more like itsyourturn.com. freechess.org is a real time chess site, not correspondence. i happen to be on the staff at freechess.org, so i may be a bit biased, but i think its the best option for real time (ie the rapid chess games that airhog is wanting).

cuervo72 · 02-01-2003, 08:30 PM

Ahh, I see. I wouldn't be able to do the real time, unfortunately - can't get away with it at work, and hardly ever have the time at home (kids). As it is I never have time for FOF4! (or civ3, or, well, much of anything else :-) ). I do often get impatient with people not moving fast enough on gameknot though - at least the games in which I'm doing well!

Airhog · 02-02-2003, 11:06 AM

okay, still looking for 4 more players

MJ4H · 02-02-2003, 11:41 AM

Anybody wants to get some practice in, look me up on FICS (www.freechess.org -- by the way, the best program to connect to FICS imo is called Thief, www.knighttour.org/thief). My handle there is Gorgonian.

korme · 02-02-2003, 11:45 AM

I'm in.

Bonegavel · 02-02-2003, 11:59 AM

If you need one more, I will throw my pawn in the ring.

Airhog · 02-02-2003, 06:56 PM

4 more players and we will be set.

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 08:36 AM

well, if we dont get a few more players over the next day or two, then we will get started

KWhit · 02-03-2003, 09:17 AM

I'll play. Count me in.

wbonnell · 02-03-2003, 09:41 AM

I'd like to play, but I'm not sure if I'll have the time to commit. How quickly are you expecting to finish the tournament?

btw, I'm pretty rusty now, but once upon a time, I had a USCF rating better than 1600, which, incidentally, is pretty average.

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 09:47 AM

im hoping to play 1 round a week

wbonnell · 02-03-2003, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Airhog
im hoping to play 1 round a week

all right- I'm in.

primelord · 02-03-2003, 10:41 AM

I'm in too.

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 11:35 AM

okay guys we still need a final player. Any takers?

Also, those of you that have already signed up, do you prefer yahoo, or FICS?

Taco · 02-03-2003, 11:56 AM

I just tried out FICS for the first time the other day and found it difficult to use. I understand that it has more features but it will take me some time to learn how to use them all. Maybe someone here can give me some tips?

Yahoo was simple enough to figure out. However, either one is fine with me.

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 12:06 PM

Yeah thats my only beef with FICS, I used to know how to do alot of that stuff on there, but have forgotten most of it.

primelord · 02-03-2003, 12:11 PM

I personally prefer FICS, but would be fine with playing on Yahoo.

MJ4H · 02-03-2003, 12:22 PM

Any questions you have about FICS, let me know. Dont forget that Im on staff there

Look me up when online too (Gorgonian).

when online use, "tell gorgonian man i have no idea what to do"

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 06:22 PM

Sounds good, I reccomend everyone play on FICS, if we can all agree too it. but if some people wish to play there games on yahoo, then I have no problem with that ethier.

BishopMVP · 02-03-2003, 06:28 PM

Count me in, please.

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 09:16 PM

Code:

1. Rpi-Fan______
		\_____________
16. Airhog______/	      \
			       \_____________
8. Schmidty_____	       /             \
		\_____________/		      \
9. Wbonell______/			       \
						\_______________
5. Primelord____ 				/	        \
		\_____________		       /	         \
12. Shorty3821__/	      \		      /			  \
			       \_____________/			   \
4. Taco_________	       /				    \
		\_____________/					     \
13. Ryche_______/						      \	
								       \____________
6. BishopMVP____						       /
		\_____________					      /	
11. Samifan24___/	      \					     /
			       \_____________			    /
3. Kwhit________	       /	     \			   /
		\_____________/		      \			  /
14. MJ4H________/	                       \		 /
						\_______________/
7. Patman_______    				/
		\_____________		       /
10. SaintAnslem_/	      \		      /
			       \_____________/
2. TheLionKing__      	       /
		\_____________/	
15. BoneGavel___/
			
			


Consolation Brackets

Loser Semifinal 1_____
		      \__3rd Place____
Loser Semifinal 2_____/


Loser Quarterfinal 1_
		     \____________
Loser Quarterfinal 2_/		  \
				   \_5th Place_____
Loser Quarterfinal 3_		   /
		     \____________/
Loser Quarterfinal 4_/

I Drew the seeds up by drawing names out of a big manilla envelope. I used the same seeding as the NCAA basketball tournament.

This will allow us to play out for first through 6th place. I could extend the brackets even more if people wish to play out all the way too 16.

Okay people you have until 12:01am Tuesday of next week to play your first round games. Please contact the person you are playing, and setup match times. If you play on yahoo or fics, and you are the winner you must send me the results of your game via pm. Failure to do so will result in a loss or the replay of that game if the loser agrees, and you can reschedule. Once I recieve your results, I will run them through fritz and analyze the game posting the results here. If you have any questions, or need assitance please contact me.

Taco · 02-03-2003, 11:10 PM

This might be a dumb question, but does "lower seeded" mean lower number or higher number? For example, which is the lower seed, 4 or 13?

Airhog · 02-03-2003, 11:15 PM

lower number is the lower seed

Airhog · 02-04-2003, 09:02 AM

Airhog · 02-04-2003, 06:27 PM

one last bump

Airhog · 02-04-2003, 06:45 PM

Okay its staying with best of three games. Also I will move the bracket over to the dynasty thread. If anyone cannot play there games in time please PM me

korme · 02-06-2003, 04:11 PM

bumpy

Airhog · 02-10-2003, 12:47 PM

Just to let everyone know, that we are nearly done with round 1. Go check out the brackets if you havent. If you know who your going to play in the second round, go ahead and contact them asap. I will not be home again until tomorrow evening. So I have decided to extend the deadline for 24 hours, but hopefully the rest of the games will be played tonight. The second round will last another week as well. Good luck to everyone

02-01-2003, 11:38 AM	#3
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	you have been added __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-01-2003, 12:01 PM	#5
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I'll play. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-01-2003, 12:11 PM	#6
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Ill play in this one but I will still have the longer correspondence style tournament as well. __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

02-01-2003, 12:18 PM	#7
Patman n00b Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, NH	I'll play __________________ Lock the door, kill the light No one's coming home tonight They bring news that must get through. Dying peace in me and you Locked in a place where no one goes.

02-01-2003, 12:35 PM	#8
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I'm a chess-aholic, so I'm definitey in!!! Yahoo is the best free place to play in my opinion. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

02-01-2003, 11:04 AM	#2
Taco High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Zealand	Great! I'd like to play. Thanks, Airhog!

02-01-2003, 11:42 AM	#4
SaintAnselm n00b Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Hampshire/Originally CT	I'm in!!

02-01-2003, 12:48 PM	#9
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	yahoo is the worst free place to play in my opinion. i recommend freechess.org __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

02-01-2003, 12:56 PM	#10
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	i'm in..... if anyone wants to get a few matches in tonight (non-tournament) I will be around. TLK

02-01-2003, 01:10 PM	#11
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	I'd like to play as well. Freechess.org is probably the best free site, but yahoo works well enough as well. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

02-01-2003, 03:27 PM	#13
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	I could expound for hours about this, but besides the fact that it requires a java applet to run it (which fails quite often on most computers Ive used), there are a myriad of reasons to read through here: Yahoo is bad because . . .

02-01-2003, 03:37 PM	#15
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I'm in for both. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-01-2003, 06:33 PM	#17
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Hmm, I don't think I can do anything other than a correspondence style tournament, my staff has already been slammed for playing chess at work so we have to be a little more descreet about things. I'd probably be interested in Matt's tourney though, I'll have to catch up on that thread. I still would very highly recommend Gameknot though, I think it's a solid site. Good graphics, non-java based, and it will keep a complete list of games (and links to those boards for a while), export pgn files, calculate ratings, show result tables vs various opponents, etc. Also has a pop-up board where you can play out prospective moves. I haven't gotten into any teams or leagues, but it handles that too. It also offers options for days per move (from 3 to 14 I think), and the option to postpone games if needed. Oh, they run tournaments regularly too. I will have to check out freechess.org sometime to compare, it might very well be a better site, but Gameknot has worked for me. Last edited by cuervo72 : 02-01-2003 at 07:32 PM.

02-01-2003, 07:35 PM	#18
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	its a different type of site. gameknot is more like itsyourturn.com. freechess.org is a real time chess site, not correspondence. i happen to be on the staff at freechess.org, so i may be a bit biased, but i think its the best option for real time (ie the rapid chess games that airhog is wanting). __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

02-01-2003, 08:30 PM	#19
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Ahh, I see. I wouldn't be able to do the real time, unfortunately - can't get away with it at work, and hardly ever have the time at home (kids). As it is I never have time for FOF4! (or civ3, or, well, much of anything else :-) ). I do often get impatient with people not moving fast enough on gameknot though - at least the games in which I'm doing well! __________________ null

02-02-2003, 11:06 AM	#20
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	okay, still looking for 4 more players __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-02-2003, 11:41 AM	#21
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Anybody wants to get some practice in, look me up on FICS (www.freechess.org -- by the way, the best program to connect to FICS imo is called Thief, www.knighttour.org/thief). My handle there is Gorgonian. __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

02-02-2003, 11:45 AM	#22
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	I'm in.

02-02-2003, 11:59 AM	#23
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	If you need one more, I will throw my pawn in the ring. __________________

02-02-2003, 06:56 PM	#24
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	4 more players and we will be set. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 08:36 AM	#25
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	well, if we dont get a few more players over the next day or two, then we will get started __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 09:17 AM	#26
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'll play. Count me in.

02-03-2003, 09:41 AM	#27
wbonnell College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Round Rock TX	I'd like to play, but I'm not sure if I'll have the time to commit. How quickly are you expecting to finish the tournament? btw, I'm pretty rusty now, but once upon a time, I had a USCF rating better than 1600, which, incidentally, is pretty average.

02-03-2003, 09:47 AM	#28
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	im hoping to play 1 round a week __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 10:41 AM	#30
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm in too. __________________ .

02-03-2003, 11:35 AM	#31
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	okay guys we still need a final player. Any takers? Also, those of you that have already signed up, do you prefer yahoo, or FICS? __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 11:56 AM	#32
Taco High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Zealand	I just tried out FICS for the first time the other day and found it difficult to use. I understand that it has more features but it will take me some time to learn how to use them all. Maybe someone here can give me some tips? Yahoo was simple enough to figure out. However, either one is fine with me.

02-03-2003, 12:06 PM	#33
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Yeah thats my only beef with FICS, I used to know how to do alot of that stuff on there, but have forgotten most of it. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 12:11 PM	#34
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I personally prefer FICS, but would be fine with playing on Yahoo. __________________ .

02-03-2003, 12:22 PM	#35
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Any questions you have about FICS, let me know. Dont forget that Im on staff there Look me up when online too (Gorgonian). when online use, "tell gorgonian man i have no idea what to do" __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

02-03-2003, 06:22 PM	#36
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Sounds good, I reccomend everyone play on FICS, if we can all agree too it. but if some people wish to play there games on yahoo, then I have no problem with that ethier. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 06:28 PM	#37
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Count me in, please.

02-03-2003, 09:16 PM	#38
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Code: 1. Rpi-Fan______ \_____________ 16. Airhog______/ \ \_____________ 8. Schmidty_____ / \ \_____________/ \ 9. Wbonell______/ \ \_______________ 5. Primelord____ / \ \_____________ / \ 12. Shorty3821__/ \ / \ \_____________/ \ 4. Taco_________ / \ \_____________/ \ 13. Ryche_______/ \ \____________ 6. BishopMVP____ / \_____________ / 11. Samifan24___/ \ / \_____________ / 3. Kwhit________ / \ / \_____________/ \ / 14. MJ4H________/ \ / \_______________/ 7. Patman_______ / \_____________ / 10. SaintAnslem_/ \ / \_____________/ 2. TheLionKing__ / \_____________/ 15. BoneGavel___/ Consolation Brackets Loser Semifinal 1_____ \__3rd Place____ Loser Semifinal 2_____/ Loser Quarterfinal 1_ \____________ Loser Quarterfinal 2_/ \ \_5th Place_____ Loser Quarterfinal 3_ / \____________/ Loser Quarterfinal 4_/ I Drew the seeds up by drawing names out of a big manilla envelope. I used the same seeding as the NCAA basketball tournament. This will allow us to play out for first through 6th place. I could extend the brackets even more if people wish to play out all the way too 16. Okay people you have until 12:01am Tuesday of next week to play your first round games. Please contact the person you are playing, and setup match times. If you play on yahoo or fics, and you are the winner you must send me the results of your game via pm. Failure to do so will result in a loss or the replay of that game if the loser agrees, and you can reschedule. Once I recieve your results, I will run them through fritz and analyze the game posting the results here. If you have any questions, or need assitance please contact me. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

02-03-2003, 11:10 PM	#39
Taco High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Zealand	This might be a dumb question, but does "lower seeded" mean lower number or higher number? For example, which is the lower seed, 4 or 13?

02-03-2003, 11:15 PM	#40
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	lower number is the lower seed __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!