When did the CB Position Officially Change to DC?

[Abe Sargent]

Was I asleep? All of these draft publications, ESPN.com and such are calling people DC Deltha O'Neal and DC DeAngelo Hall. What does DC even stand for? Defensive Corner? Did some random podunk team in Montana create an Offensive Corner position, and now we need to distinguish?

-Anxiety

[Fritz]

perhaps corner and quarter are confusing

[kcchief19]

Hmmm ... I haven't seen any reference like that, but I haven't looked real closley. My initial guess would be that it refers to a Dime Cornerback. It's usually a Dime Back, but that would make it a DB, which would be confusing since that usually refers to corners and safeties.

But that's just a guess.

[Poli]

You're not alone in your questioning. Truth is, coaches are the worst at "creating" new names for positions.

H-back, tailback, running back, quarterback, fullback, I-back, wingback, slotback, halfback, X,Y,Z, flanker, tight end, split end, wide receiver, slot, weak tackle, strong tackle, quick tackle, swing tackle, onside tackle, backside tackle, backside guard, onside guard, swing guard, weak guard, quick guard.

Defense is even worse. Coaches create "monster backs" and such. I've been to a coaching clinic where one of the coaches I went with had no idea what Len and Rip were (it stands for left linebacker and right linebacker).

A great book that would prove just how different coaches are is "Football's Best Offensive Playbook". Each page is from a different coach, and of course has different terminology. The fun part is trying to figure out just what the heck they're talking about, because it's not always explained.

[korme]

Deltha's a SC in Cincy!!

SHUTDOWN CORNER

[INDalltheway]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

You're not alone in your questioning. Truth is, coaches are the worst at "creating" new names for positions.

H-back, tailback, running back, quarterback, fullback, I-back, wingback, slotback, halfback, X,Y,Z, flanker, tight end, split end, wide receiver, slot, weak tackle, strong tackle, quick tackle, swing tackle, onside tackle, backside tackle, backside guard, onside guard, swing guard, weak guard, quick guard.

Defense is even worse. Coaches create "monster backs" and such. I've been to a coaching clinic where one of the coaches I went with had no idea what Len and Rip were (it stands for left linebacker and right linebacker).

A great book that would prove just how different coaches are is "Football's Best Offensive Playbook". Each page is from a different coach, and of course has different terminology. The fun part is trying to figure out just what the heck they're talking about, because it's not always explained.

My defense on my high school team had defensive postitons called "Rover", "Bandit", and "Bull". The rover was basically a OLB, and the Bandit and Bull's were DE's. We also use the X, Y, and Z for recievers and tight ends.

[judicial clerk]

Don't forget Elephant, Rover, Spy, Invert, Mike, long snapper, wedge breaker, protector, holder, nickle back, dime back,

I can't remeber the names for the guy who sprints down on punts, or the guys who are designated to block that guy)

[hukarez]

Originally Posted by judicial clerk

Don't forget Elephant, Rover, Spy, Invert, Mike, long snapper, wedge breaker, protector, holder, nickle back, dime back,

I can't remeber the names for the guy who sprints down on punts, or the guys who are designated to block that guy)

Gunners?

[judicial clerk]

thank you. The guys who block the Gunners have a name too i think.

[cthomer5000]

I've been reading draft publications... and I haven't seen DC once.

[Poli]

Guess I didn't actually answer the question. Yes, it stands for defensive corner.

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, howza bout an example then:

This is from Scouts Inc.:

"Despite adding DC Deltha O'Neal in their recent trade with the Broncos, the Bengals still are targeting a cornerback with the 24th pick. Cincinnati is hopeful a change of scenery will help O'Neal bounce back from a dismal 2003 season, but the Bengals can't rely on that. There is even more concern about depth after Dennis Weathersby's serious car accident this month. If Ohio State DC Chris Gamble is gone by the time they pick, the Bengals could be targeting USC's Will Poole or Arkansas' Ahmad Carroll with their top selection."

As you can see, they say "cornerback" but use the DC abbreviations.

-Anxiety

[korme]

SC... SC!!

[Poli]

Now that I think of it, there was a football statistic that used to float around more often than it does now, PBU.

2 cents to the person that correctly tells me what it stands for without looking it up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Now that I think of it, there was a football statistic that used to float around more often than it does now, PBU.

2 cents to the person that correctly tells me what it stands for without looking it up.

I assume that's "Passes Broken Up"

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Deltha's a SC in Cincy!!

SHUTDOWN CORNER

I thought he was going to play at OT? Official Turnstyle.

[korme]

[Poli]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I assume that's "Passes Broken Up"

Check's in the mail. I first saw that when I was 14, and couldn't for the life of me figure it out. Two years later, and I'm playing football, I ask my football coach. He had no idea.

[hukarez]

Originally Posted by judicial clerk

thank you. The guys who block the Gunners have a name too i think.

That, I don't know. I don't think they get much love. Probably your other standard fare 'returners' of some kind? Not quite sure, to be honest.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Check's in the mail. I first saw that when I was 14, and couldn't for the life of me figure it out. Two years later, and I'm playing football, I ask my football coach. He had no idea.

The only way I recognized it was from seeing a particular school's stat summaries last year & they used it from time to time (same school also abbreviated TFL as one of their defensive stats).

[Pumpy Tudors]

Shorty's on crack. Deltha O'Neal is nothing but a piece of toast.

[korme]

Heh, I am just having some fun with Deltha. He's only like 24 anyways, who knows..

TFL = TACKLES FOR LOSS

[Craptacular]

Originally Posted by judicial clerk

thank you. The guys who block the Gunners have a name too i think.

PRBF = Punt Returner's Best Friend

This reminded me of a great snippet from Jim Caple's article on the world's greatest athlete on Page 2 the other day:
"Speaking of which, it's a good thing the NFL got rid of that halo rule, because obviously returning punts -- standing poised for the ball while 260-pound players who can bench press 400 pounds and run 4.6 40s prepare to smack you as hard as they can from a running start -- had become far too easy."

[sachmo71]

I like ONeal, but he is NOT an SC. Not even for the Bengals.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

I like ONeal, but he is NOT an SC. Not even for the Bengals.

He could be an SC...sucky corner.

[QuikSand]

Suspect corner?
Shaky cover-man?
Supposed convert?
"Special" case?