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Old 10-28-2015, 10:04 AM   #201
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Yeah. They need to put him away for a long time and make sure he gets the mental health treatment he needs before putting him back on the streets.

As long as he doesn't go to some underground military facility and the whole thing turns into The Passage
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:07 AM   #202
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Yeah. They need to put him away for a long time and make sure he gets the mental health treatment he needs before putting him back on the streets.

In my mind, you cannot let a sex offender like that ever go free. I don't believe they can be rehabilitated. My wife has an uncle who is old and in terrible health (wheel chair bound), yet he still managed to molest kids again when given the chance. This is a guy who molested one of my wife's sisters when she was a kid. That sister is a total disaster these days due to drug use and poor choices, and a large part of it has to be attributed to what happened when she was a child. The devastation these people leave is beyond estimation. Her life has been ruined, and she continually makes mistakes that are ruining the lives of her own kids (who she never should have had).

Sex offenders simply need to be separated from society forever.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:42 PM   #203
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Gross. I'm watching Dr. Phil. They are interviewing the woman who was investigating Fogel. It is nasty. The woman is telling him about kids she is inviting to a party. 7,8,10 years old. And he is loving it.
He talks about young girls and going to Thailand with the woman. And her being with young boys while he is with young girls.

He is getting excited. Dr. Phil is comparing it to phone sex.

What a nasty, nasty man.
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:49 PM   #204
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Meanwhile in Minnesota, they might have found the man behind the disappearance of Jacob Wetterling, an 11 year old boy who has been missing since 1989. He was arrested on child pornography charges, not for the disappearance, but he molested another boy around the same time who survived and gave a sketch-that looks very similar to a photo of the man today,

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Old 11-19-2015, 11:30 AM   #206
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I literally took my last bite of a subway breakfast sandwich when I read your post. I'll let you know if anything happens.
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:32 AM   #207
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I'd give him the max for the sheer stupidity of the claim.
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:35 AM   #208
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I was planning to get a $2 meatball marinara tomorrow, but now...
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:52 AM   #209
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Lose weight with the Subway diet!*


*WARNING: May also cause pedophilia.
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:54 AM   #210
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:55 AM   #211
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Man gets skinny and gets laid more. Ok.

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Old 11-19-2015, 12:33 PM   #212
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:36 PM   #213
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He'll get a maximum of about 50 days off of the sentence per year for good behavior, and there's no parole in the federal system, so he'll be in there for 13+ years at least

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Old 11-19-2015, 12:40 PM   #214
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The judge went beyond what the prosecutors were seeking.

edit: Evidently, the sentence allows him to appeal. He waived the right to appeal if the sentence was 12.5 years or less (which is what the prosecutors were seeking).
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:44 PM   #215
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Nowhere near enough time for this sick fuck.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:50 PM   #216
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Federal sentencings are advised by a table that accounts for your criminal history and the gravity of your crime: http://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/fi...cing_Table.pdf

Making it really simple: your "offense level" is controlled by things like the amount of images you have, whether they show sadistic conduct, etc. etc. etc.

The range is one that is (again simplifying) presumed reasonable, but judges are, with reasons, allowed to vary upwardly or downwardly from that range.

I bore you with all of this because, as you can see, 188 months is a relevant number. It represents the top or bottom of several ranges. Which makes it very likely that the Judge gave him the top or bottom of the advised range for his crime--finding him no more or less culpable than the average defendant on his facts.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:23 PM   #217
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Federal sentencings are advised by a table that accounts for your criminal history and the gravity of your crime: http://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/fi...cing_Table.pdf
Wow. Probably a good thing overall, but at a certain point deciding what falls into a Level 28 crime vs a Level 30 crime vs a Level 37 crime is absurd. And what sorts of heinous crimes fall under Level 41 where they are bad enough to require a minimum of 27 years for a first-time offender, but the judge is restricted from giving them more than 33.75 years?
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:02 PM   #218
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Wow. Probably a good thing overall, but at a certain point deciding what falls into a Level 28 crime vs a Level 30 crime vs a Level 37 crime is absurd. And what sorts of heinous crimes fall under Level 41 where they are bad enough to require a minimum of 27 years for a first-time offender, but the judge is restricted from giving them more than 33.75 years?

Calculating that number is a huge part of federal sentencing. It is a multi-factor analysis: Guidelines Manual | United States Sentencing Commission
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:36 PM   #219
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Ultimately, I think instead of blaming Subway subs for his crimes, Jared should have claimed dyslexia. After all, most media reports on the ages of his prey seem to indicate he rarely strayed from the guideline of one seventh his age plus two years.
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:45 PM   #220
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All that time for a few minor offenses.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:09 PM   #221
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Calculating that number is a huge part of federal sentencing. It is a multi-factor analysis: Guidelines Manual | United States Sentencing Commission

Fun for the nerd lawyers out there! I enjoyed making use of this during my 2L summer.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:40 AM   #222
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:44 AM   #223
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I was planning to get a $2 meatball marinara tomorrow, but now...


let me guess...it's a footlong with meatballs?
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Old 03-17-2016, 05:38 PM   #224
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:16 PM   #225
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Old 06-09-2016, 07:20 PM   #226
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His appeal to have his sentence reduced was rejected.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-in...-idUSKCN0YV2O4
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