The "REAL PLAYER" file

BigPitt · 11-15-2003, 04:57 PM

Ok - so does the "real player file" not work right or is it the importer supplied with the game that messes it up.

As a post below mentions the Punt and Kickoff return ratings do not import correctly.

My guess is that the importer is fouled-up.Why the heck was this not done properly to begin with.I don't think Grin-er really gives a crap.At this point my $35 is wasted.

OK - go ahead an flame me.

JeeberD · 11-15-2003, 05:00 PM

So the fact that some players don't come over with "proper" kick and punt return numbers means that the game is a waste and no good at all?

Whatever...

Sweed · 11-15-2003, 05:12 PM

Ever bought a computer game before? Most people understand there will be issues when a game first comes out that's why there are threads to report these "bugs".

If you can't or don't want to deal with issues like this then you should make it a habit to wait until the game has gone through it's first couple of patches before purchasing.

That little lesson alone should be worth $35 to you.

yabanci · 11-15-2003, 05:14 PM

<-------------- yawning

SirFozzie · 11-15-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPitt
OK - go ahead an flame me.

Gladly, you maggot infested moron.

You're complaining that something that JIM GINDIN HAD nothing to do with (the real player file) is broken, therefore your purchase is wasted? You must be a frickin imbecile.

Oh wait..

Just registered, one post.

I think we have been trolled. Let me guess, you want people to play a certain OTHER game instead? One that's put out by another company that isn't out yet, right?

(note: I am not attacking Joe and/or Arlie and/or .400. I happened to swap words with Joe on the /400 board about their radio station, and they are good folks. Some of their fans however, have the 12 year old mentality that they can make something else rise up by tearing down others)

BigPitt · 11-15-2003, 05:48 PM

Not that I need to explain but I have purchased every edition of FOF from day one.That's five right.It should be about right by now.
I still feel Primelord did his part correctly.

I don't play other football games.
Belonged to this board since it originated.
Don't post often just because of these type things.
Have not looked here in a year.Since I junked FOF4.

As for smart alex kids like SirFozzie - If I were closer I would be happy to drop in for a visit.Some sissies fell they can hide behind
the nature of the internet.

Vikings13 · 11-15-2003, 05:53 PM

Deep breaths guys... Take Tylenol for headaches, Midol for cramps...

Easy Mac · 11-15-2003, 05:56 PM

I'll reply with what I replied with in the Punt/Kick thread:

There is some variation in the player file and what shows up in the game still have a difference even without the X-factor. This is so every game does not play the exact same way. I would think this is a good thing, so it doesn't get boring (i.e. a completely the same season replay over and over).

Why not post in the regular thread for this? Why start an entirely new thread, then bait people by calling the game worthless, purposely insult the developer, and say" ok, flame me". No offense, but that doesn't really make you sympathetic when you're asking to be flamed.

JeeberD · 11-15-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPitt
As for smart alex kids like SirFozzie - If I were closer I would be happy to drop in for a visit.Some sissies fell they can hide behind
the nature of the internet.

Hey now, you don't want to mess with Foz. He beat the crap out of a tree with his bare hands, I would hate to see what he could do to a person...

TroyF · 11-15-2003, 06:58 PM

I don't play other football games.

You are a rarity around here. Most everyone on this board plays a ton of football games.

Belonged to this board since it originated.

Welcome. Wish your first post would have been a bit better, but we can't have everything we wish for.

Don't post often just because of these type things.

You EXPECTED to get flamed. Why act shocked that it happened now?

Have not looked here in a year.Since I junked FOF4.

So you junked FOF4 and haven't been here in a year, but happened to pop in near the date of the release of the new game? Cool.

As for smart alex kids like SirFozzie - If I were closer I would be happy to drop in for a visit.Some sissies fell they can hide behind
the nature of the internet.

Well, if SirFozzie is a smart alec kid, dropping by his house and starting a fight wouldn't exactly be the smartest thing you could do.

TroyF

cody8200 · 11-15-2003, 07:04 PM

BigPitt...you want flamed? Your an idiot.

Wasabiak · 11-15-2003, 07:08 PM

You paid $35.00???? .......................HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

zums · 11-15-2003, 08:37 PM

yeah dude since you supposedly have been around forever and have all the FOF games you missed out on your coupon hahahahhahaha

-zums

Coffee Warlord · 11-15-2003, 09:26 PM

I like butter.

Taur · 11-15-2003, 09:44 PM

I hate to break up all the "Bashing", but getting back to the topic....

Do you think there will be a corrected "Real Players" file released? I know a lot of people are waiting on the first game patch to be released, so should we also wait/expect on the first player patch as well?

VPI97 · 11-15-2003, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPitt
At this point my $35 is wasted.

You probably should have stuck with FOF4. By all accounts, it doesn't have nearly the amount of bugs that 2K4 does...

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPitt
Since I junked FOF4.

Oh snap...

yabanci · 11-15-2003, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taur
Do you think there will be a corrected "Real Players" file released? I know a lot of people are waiting on the first game patch to be released, so should we also wait/expect on the first player patch as well?

Is there a problem with the player file? The only one I've heard was the 16 year old guard on denver, but you can just open the csv with a spreadsheet yourself and fix that.

edit - unless you mean inflated or depressed stats, but not everybody is experiencing this and I think there's still a debate over whether something is wrong. In any event, that would be a problem with the game engine anyway, not the player file.

Taur · 11-15-2003, 10:50 PM

Speaking of Ben and the Denver Broncos lets take their #1 punt returner and #2 kick returner Easy Ed McCaffery.

It appears after 13 years in the league Ed has embarked on a new calling. First 13 years ZERO kick returns. First 13 years ZERO punt returns. Now he is their starting return specialist?

O'Neil there regular return specialist has a ZERO rating for both PR and KR.

There is a bug in the KR and PR ratings.

Icy · 11-15-2003, 10:52 PM

The .csv is ok, if there is any problem is on the import function that should import exactly the .csv rattings unless you use the X factor.
Also another question, i have seen some players with 0 endurance, is that ok?

Taur · 11-15-2003, 11:01 PM

Help. Are you telling me that I should drop the fdt file for a csv file?

Is ther a difference in accuracy? fdt vs csv? Is one better than the other?

Icy · 11-15-2003, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taur
Help. Are you telling me that I should drop the fdt file for a csv file?

Is ther a difference in accuracy? fdt vs csv? Is one better than the other?

Both are the same as the .fdt is created from the .csv with the import function. What we are pointing here is that mybe the importing tool has a bug and doesn't import correctly the .csv files.

BigJohn&TheLions · 11-15-2003, 11:39 PM

So if there is a bug then what he should do is report the possibility of it and thank Jim for making this game. Instead he complains and criticizes the man who made the game he aparently has been impressed enough with to purchase 5 times. If his wife or whoever made him dinner does he throw it in her face complaining that there is not enough salt in it? That it's unedible? No. There is a right way and a wrong way. Show some respect.

yabanci · 11-15-2003, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Icy
Both are the same as the .fdt is created from the .csv with the import function. What we are pointing here is that mybe the importing tool has a bug and doesn't import correctly the .csv files.

I think this is right. The player file correctly rates the PRs and KRs. It's something with the game engine that doesn't seem to be using the those ratings when it generates a new career.

It seems like if a player is hard rated a 9 (best) in KR, for example, it's generating a 0 instead of a high rating. So to generate enough talent in returns it gives better ratings to other typical return men, like wide receivers. So this is why maybe you see guys like like Ed McCaffrey being punt returners. It's the same with my Raiders - Phillip Buchanan is hard rated a 7 but he's generated with a 0 in punt returns. Instead 41 year old Jerry Rice is my highest rated punt returner.

Again, it looks to me like the player file is fine. It's a glitch in the game correctly generating the ratings for return men that I'm sure will be easily fixed. I haven't seen it with any other positions.

Butter · 11-17-2003, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
I like butter.

I like you too, I guess.

jetpunk2000 · 11-18-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

You probably should have stuck with FOF4. By all accounts, it doesn't have nearly the amount of bugs that 2K4 does...

I'm confused by this comment. Is it sarcasm? The game is virtually bug free compared to the release of FOF4.

Taur · 11-18-2003, 12:40 PM

I would like to give this thread a quick bump.

With the upcomming release of the first patch I was wondering if there is also going to be a release of a new "Real Roster" fdt program?

In the beginning I just downloaded the fdt real players file, and switched it with my defualt file. Am I going to have to download the first patch then wait for the first player patch to come out and download it too.

Not complaining at all. I am just curious as to what patches will be comming out?

Taur · 11-20-2003, 09:54 AM

Any news on a new real player file?

primelord · 11-20-2003, 09:57 AM

What is wrong with the original real player file?

Subby · 11-20-2003, 09:59 AM

No joystick compatibility.

Subby · 11-20-2003, 09:59 AM

Or lazers.

SnowMan · 11-20-2003, 10:00 AM

Or sharks with lasers.

Subby · 11-20-2003, 10:07 AM

Or dogs with bees coming out of their mouths.

primelord · 11-20-2003, 10:09 AM

It's hard to argue with those points.

Coffee Warlord · 11-20-2003, 10:46 AM

Or ham.

The Afoci · 11-20-2003, 12:03 PM

The real player file was disappointing. I was unable to pick up anymore girls because of it.

primelord · 11-20-2003, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Afoci
The real player file was disappointing. I was unable to pick up anymore girls because of it.

Perhaps you are just not using it correctly.

The Afoci · 11-20-2003, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by primelord
Perhaps you are just not using it correctly.

My mom said it is all about delivery. Sadly since birth, I haven't been able to last longer than a few minutes.

SirFozzie · 11-20-2003, 12:07 PM

Oh, BigPitt.. if you're still reading this..

yer STILL a frigging moron.

11-15-2003, 05:48 PM	#6
BigPitt n00b Join Date: Nov 2002	Answer Not that I need to explain but I have purchased every edition of FOF from day one.That's five right.It should be about right by now. I still feel Primelord did his part correctly. I don't play other football games. Belonged to this board since it originated. Don't post often just because of these type things. Have not looked here in a year.Since I junked FOF4. As for smart alex kids like SirFozzie - If I were closer I would be happy to drop in for a visit.Some sissies fell they can hide behind the nature of the internet.

11-15-2003, 05:53 PM	#7
Vikings13 n00b Join Date: Oct 2003	Deep breaths guys... Take Tylenol for headaches, Midol for cramps... __________________ "The Paraguayan Air Force's request for spraying subsidies was not as Paraguayan as it were..."

11-15-2003, 06:58 PM	#10
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Re: Answer I don't play other football games. You are a rarity around here. Most everyone on this board plays a ton of football games. Belonged to this board since it originated. Welcome. Wish your first post would have been a bit better, but we can't have everything we wish for. Don't post often just because of these type things. You EXPECTED to get flamed. Why act shocked that it happened now? Have not looked here in a year.Since I junked FOF4. So you junked FOF4 and haven't been here in a year, but happened to pop in near the date of the release of the new game? Cool. As for smart alex kids like SirFozzie - If I were closer I would be happy to drop in for a visit.Some sissies fell they can hide behind the nature of the internet. Well, if SirFozzie is a smart alec kid, dropping by his house and starting a fight wouldn't exactly be the smartest thing you could do. TroyF

11-15-2003, 09:44 PM	#15
Taur High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002	I hate to break up all the "Bashing", but getting back to the topic.... Do you think there will be a corrected "Real Players" file released? I know a lot of people are waiting on the first game patch to be released, so should we also wait/expect on the first player patch as well? __________________ END OF LINE.....

11-15-2003, 10:50 PM	#18
Taur High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002	Speaking of Ben and the Denver Broncos lets take their #1 punt returner and #2 kick returner Easy Ed McCaffery. It appears after 13 years in the league Ed has embarked on a new calling. First 13 years ZERO kick returns. First 13 years ZERO punt returns. Now he is their starting return specialist? O'Neil there regular return specialist has a ZERO rating for both PR and KR. There is a bug in the KR and PR ratings. __________________ END OF LINE..... Last edited by Taur : 11-15-2003 at 11:34 PM.

11-15-2003, 05:00 PM	#2
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	So the fact that some players don't come over with "proper" kick and punt return numbers means that the game is a waste and no good at all? Whatever... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

11-15-2003, 05:12 PM	#3
Sweed College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	Ever bought a computer game before? Most people understand there will be issues when a game first comes out that's why there are threads to report these "bugs". If you can't or don't want to deal with issues like this then you should make it a habit to wait until the game has gone through it's first couple of patches before purchasing. That little lesson alone should be worth $35 to you.

11-15-2003, 05:14 PM	#4
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	<-------------- yawning

11-15-2003, 05:56 PM	#8
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I'll reply with what I replied with in the Punt/Kick thread: There is some variation in the player file and what shows up in the game still have a difference even without the X-factor. This is so every game does not play the exact same way. I would think this is a good thing, so it doesn't get boring (i.e. a completely the same season replay over and over). Why not post in the regular thread for this? Why start an entirely new thread, then bait people by calling the game worthless, purposely insult the developer, and say" ok, flame me". No offense, but that doesn't really make you sympathetic when you're asking to be flamed.

11-15-2003, 07:04 PM	#11
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	BigPitt...you want flamed? Your an idiot.

11-15-2003, 07:08 PM	#12
Wasabiak High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Beulah, ND	You paid $35.00???? .......................HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

11-15-2003, 08:37 PM	#13
zums H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000	yeah dude since you supposedly have been around forever and have all the FOF games you missed out on your coupon hahahahhahaha -zums

11-15-2003, 09:26 PM	#14
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I like butter.

11-15-2003, 10:52 PM	#19
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	The .csv is ok, if there is any problem is on the import function that should import exactly the .csv rattings unless you use the X factor. Also another question, i have seen some players with 0 endurance, is that ok? __________________ Last edited by Icy : 11-15-2003 at 10:54 PM.

11-15-2003, 11:01 PM	#20
Taur High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002	Help. Are you telling me that I should drop the fdt file for a csv file? Is ther a difference in accuracy? fdt vs csv? Is one better than the other? __________________ END OF LINE.....

11-15-2003, 11:39 PM	#22
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	So if there is a bug then what he should do is report the possibility of it and thank Jim for making this game. Instead he complains and criticizes the man who made the game he aparently has been impressed enough with to purchase 5 times. If his wife or whoever made him dinner does he throw it in her face complaining that there is not enough salt in it? That it's unedible? No. There is a right way and a wrong way. Show some respect. __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?" Last edited by BigJohn&TheLions : 11-15-2003 at 11:40 PM.

11-18-2003, 12:40 PM	#26
Taur High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002	I would like to give this thread a quick bump. With the upcomming release of the first patch I was wondering if there is also going to be a release of a new "Real Roster" fdt program? In the beginning I just downloaded the fdt real players file, and switched it with my defualt file. Am I going to have to download the first patch then wait for the first player patch to come out and download it too. Not complaining at all. I am just curious as to what patches will be comming out? __________________ END OF LINE.....

11-20-2003, 09:54 AM	#27
Taur High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002	Any news on a new real player file? __________________ END OF LINE.....

11-20-2003, 09:57 AM	#28
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	What is wrong with the original real player file? __________________ .

11-20-2003, 09:59 AM	#29
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	No joystick compatibility. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

11-20-2003, 09:59 AM	#30
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Or lazers. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

11-20-2003, 10:00 AM	#31
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Or sharks with lasers.

11-20-2003, 10:07 AM	#32
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Or dogs with bees coming out of their mouths. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

11-20-2003, 10:09 AM	#33
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	It's hard to argue with those points. __________________ .

11-20-2003, 10:46 AM	#34
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Or ham.

11-20-2003, 12:03 PM	#35
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	The real player file was disappointing. I was unable to pick up anymore girls because of it. __________________ I had something.

11-20-2003, 12:07 PM	#38
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Oh, BigPitt.. if you're still reading this.. yer STILL a frigging moron. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

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