Has anyone seen my governor? (His Argentinian mistress has)

[sterlingice]

I think rather than Dirk's girl, I'd have preferred...



You guessed it, Frank Stallone!

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[Autumn]

She fled to Argentina I guess to avoid a conviction.

[Young Drachma]

That was an awful press conference. Why do these people employ advisors if they're just gonna fall down the stairs like that?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

“I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign). I come from the business side. If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.” [Sanford on Clinton, The Post and Courier, 9/12/98]

“The issue of lying is probably the biggest harm, if you will, to the system of Democratic government, representatives government, because it undermines trust. And if you undermine trust in our system, you undermine everything.” [Sanford on Clinton, CNN, 2/16/99]

Do as I say, not as I do.

[Dutch]

Agreed. If a public figure cheats on their spouse, they'll cheat on their constituents.

So...See ya!

(Don't worry about the people of South Carolina, they'll make more politicians.)

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

That was an awful press conference. Why do these people employ advisors if they're just gonna fall down the stairs like that?

To be fair, there's not much an advisor can do for a scandal like this. To borrow from the vernacular that everyone was feigning offense to as it was apparently just invented last year, there's no putting lipstick on this pig.

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[RainMaker]

I don't follow South Carolina politics or necessarily care who their Governor is. But I don't think he should resign if the people like him and they feel he's doing a good job still. We elect Governors to do a job and that's what they should be judged on. The not telling people where he was going should be the real issue, not who he was fucking.

In any event, the happiest man on the planet has to be Romney who is being handed the nomination in 2012.

[cartman]

Evidently the pics have surfaced.

The News Bizarre: MarÃ*a Belén Chapur Photo Mark Stanford Lover Named

[Easy Mac]

I think republicans killed Michael Jackson to knock this off the front page.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I think republicans killed Michael Jackson to knock this off the front page.

Careful, democrats believe stuff like this.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cartman

Evidently the pics have surfaced.

The News Bizarre: MarÃ*a Belén Chapur Photo Mark Stanford Lover Named

Is it just me or she does she look a LOT like his wife?

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Careful, democrats believe stuff like this.

I don't know, I mean I head Mr. burns and the count were seen in la earlier today

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I don't know, I mean I head Mr. burns

We don't need to know this.

[DaddyTorgo]

Interesting tidbit:

Meanwhile, questions grew about a trip to Argentina he took last summer. While Sanford has agreed to reimburse the state for part of a more-than $8,000 tab that enabled him to see the mistress, state officials indicated they never intended a South American economic development trip to hold meetings in Argentina. That was only done at the governor's behest, said Kara Borie, a spokeswoman for the state Commerce Department.

I dunno - I sort of feel like state taxpayers ought to sue him for the full amount of the trip then.

[miked]

I think I was reading that the trip was for Brazil, and he asked to add a stop in Argentina. Notice the quote above said they never intended meetings in Argentina. I believe (remembering from an old article) that they spent a week in Brazil for the meetings and that's why he's not reimbursing the whole trip.

[JPhillips]

I felt somewhat sorry for him last week, but not anymore.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford says he "crossed lines" with a handful of women other than his mistress -- but never had sex with them.

The governor says he "never crossed the ultimate line" with anyone but Maria Belen Chapur, the Argentine at the center of a scandal that has derailed Sanford's once-promising political career.

During an emotional interview at his Statehouse office with The Associated Press on Tuesday, Sanford said Chapur is his soul mate but he's trying to fall back in love with his wife.

[RainMaker]

Odd that the Republicans aren't bitching about this. I mean Obama went to New York for an evening and the world was blowing up.

[miked]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Odd that the Republicans aren't bitching about this. I mean Obama went to New York for an evening and the world was blowing up.

They are, his own party is investigating his trips since he admitted to making quite a few more than the original. Of course, they aren't investigating because they care about ethics, they just want his job.

[Samdari]

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford says he "crossed lines" with a handful of women other than his mistress -- but never had sex with them.

"I've hit on lots of women, but could only close the deal with someone who did not speak English and understand my incoherent ramblings."

[sterlingice]

See I just figured it was like most kids talking about high school experiences (or Bill Clinton- what the definition of "is" is). She only did _blank_ and _blank_ but we were worried about her getting pregnant so we didn't "go all the way".

Then again, the more and more I see of "real life", the more I think it's a lot like high school.

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[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Then again, the more and more I see of "real life", the more I think it's a lot like high school.

More like some people never matured beyond high school.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

More like some people never matured beyond high school.

I think the vast majority of people get their social structure understanding from high school and thus carry that on to the rest of their lives

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[RainMaker]

I understand that Sanford is a dirtball but not sure why his affairs matter to the public. I can see the Argentina woman coming up because it may have been on the State's dime but my theory is that a politician can fuck who he wants as long as he does a good job.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I understand that Sanford is a dirtball but not sure why his affairs matter to the public. I can see the Argentina woman coming up because it may have been on the State's dime but my theory is that a politician can fuck who he wants as long as he does a good job.

Agreed if he had been quiet about marriage previously. When you go all out against Clinton and defend the sanctity of marriage from gays, you deserve whatever beating you get from having an affair IMO.

[RainMaker]

Here are some of the e-mails from the press and responses. Fox News showing their "journalistic integrity" as always.

http://media.thestate.com/smedia/200...filiate.74.pdf

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Here are some of the e-mails from the press and responses. Fox News showing their "journalistic integrity" as always.

http://media.thestate.com/smedia/200...filiate.74.pdf

I love how big liberals are into "journalistic integrity" when it's clear they have no concept of it at all.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I love how big liberals are into "journalistic integrity" when it's clear they have no concept of it at all.

I'm not a liberal, just found it funny how a reporter for a major news network is not trying to get information but spin something for a guy. Or that a major newspapers asks for an interview by stating it's "friendly ground".

I know many media outlets are biased in one way or another, but they shouldn't make it that pathetically obvious.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I know many media outlets are biased in one way or another, but they shouldn't make it that pathetically obvious.

I'm not sure that's actually true, at least in a general sense ('cause I didn't follow the path of this specific one in the past few posts).

Here's what I'm thinking about on this: The most popular TV news sites have definite leanings, and the stronger those leanings are displayed generally the better people respond to them. Newspapers have an even longer history of having a clear bias, look at the career of William Randolph Hearst, certainly not much pretense about being unbiased there.

It's not even outside my lifetime that two then-competing Atlanta newspapers were generally known as the liberal one & the conservative one & you subscribed in part accordingly (as well as your morning or afternoon preference). That distinction is still referenced fairly regularly today, nearly 30 years after they merged, it's still pretty well ingrained on anyone who was around at the time.

Truth is, I'm not at all sure there's not actually more false pretense of being unbiased attempted today than there's ever been in the American media.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'm not sure that's actually true, at least in a general sense ('cause I didn't follow the path of this specific one in the past few posts).

Here's what I'm thinking about on this: The most popular TV news sites have definite leanings, and the stronger those leanings are displayed generally the better people respond to them. Newspapers have an even longer history of having a clear bias, look at the career of William Randolph Hearst, certainly not much pretense about being unbiased there.

It's not even outside my lifetime that two then-competing Atlanta newspapers were generally known as the liberal one & the conservative one & you subscribed in part accordingly (as well as your morning or afternoon preference). That distinction is still referenced fairly regularly today, nearly 30 years after they merged, it's still pretty well ingrained on anyone who was around at the time.

Truth is, I'm not at all sure there's not actually more false pretense of being unbiased attempted today than there's ever been in the American media.

I agree, but I think it's changed this decade. While there were biases, the media wasn't an extension of the party or movement. They didn't go out of their way to spin stories as much or essentially disguise press releases as journalism. There was a bias in the stories that were reported, how prominent they were placed, and what the slant of the editorial board was.

But this just comes across worse. It's not just a Fox News or Washington Times thing, it's with all the networks that have strong leanings. The guys had no interest in reporting news or finding out what was going on. Their entire pitch was to help a guy spin a story the right way to the public. I think that veers more down the path of entertainment than news.

Maybe it's always been that way though. I guess it's just depressing to me that during a time when we need great investigative journalists going after everyone in power, we have hacks like that running around spinning things and calling it news.

[flere-imsaho]

It used to be that bias was limited to the editorial pages (or "commentary" programs on TV), though. Now bias is strewn throughout supposedly objective articles/programs. I think that's to what we're objecting.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

It used to be that bias was limited to the editorial pages (or "commentary" programs on TV), though. Now bias is strewn throughout supposedly objective articles/programs. I think that's to what we're objecting.

I guess the difference is that I've never operated under much illusion that those articles/programs were objective. And I've probably underestimated how many people ever thought they were.

I wrote my first news copy back in, let's see, 1983 or so. I think I figured out how you put your p.o.v. in there in about ... 1983 or so. Was even tutored on how to do it effectively to some extent, and that was on minor stuff in micro markets.

[Young Drachma]

Jenny Sanford to Divorce Governor: Savvy Career Move? - TIME

Sanford's wife files for divorce.

[Thomkal]

Well at least Sanford has the remaining time in his governorship left to console himself with.

[molson]

I hope she ends up with a nice chunk of change (though given her credentials, she may not need it)

[JPhillips]

His wife is talking now.

Jenny Sanford, the estranged wife of South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, told Barbara Walters in an ABC interview that her husband insisted they take the fidelity clause out of their marriage vows.

"It bothered me to some extent, but ... we were very young, we were in love," she said. "I questioned it, but I got past it ... along with other doubts that I had."

Don't think I could have slipped that past my wife.

[sterlingice]

Wait? The vows or the pre-nuptual?

"And do you, Mark Sanford, promise to, uh, never mind- it looks like this one was scratched out"

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[Young Drachma]

She's already got a clothing line, a book deal and a possible Senate run in the works. She's gonna do juuuust fine for herself.