07-29-2009, 07:48 PM | #1 | ||
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Virtualization: FPS BBPro 98
So I have this really bad itch to play this game, but it doesn't work on Vista or XP. Assuming I want to play it on this machine, what is the best solution? I have a Win 98 CD, and I've tried installing it in VirtualBox. I finally got it working (super-pain) but it runs HORRIBLY (mouse cursor isn't visible when moving, 3D view and game simming incredibly slow).
Is there a virtualization solution that doesn't kill performance so much? Is the only solution dual-booting? I'm hesitant to dual-boot windows OSes based on some things I have read. What do you guys think? |
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07-29-2009, 07:56 PM | #2 |
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Hmmm, I swear I got the game to work on Windows XP a few years ago and I'm pretty sure without a fuss. For whatever reason I decided to load up the game as soon as I bought a new video card a few years ago. Definitely had XP at that point. Can't see the pic now, but I took a screenshot of the game and shared it in post #19.
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07-29-2009, 07:59 PM | #3 |
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What happens exactly when you try to run the game in XP or Vista?
Edit: It's also possible that I installed Baseball Pro '94 instead. I believe that was DOS-based and maybe that's why it had less problems. Last edited by sovereignstar : 07-29-2009 at 08:00 PM. |
07-29-2009, 08:03 PM | #4 |
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Oh it runs, you just can't do leagues with it because it crashes after simming games. I can get mine running (and it looks quite beautiful in full detail on a modern machine). It's so frustrating to not be able to play a league with it though. In Vista it crashes after every game. XP, too, but I think it does it at even more inopportune times in Vista.
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07-29-2009, 08:05 PM | #5 |
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So you can do batting practice and stuff? I'm sure that's all I did when I last installed it.
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07-29-2009, 08:05 PM | #6 |
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I had it running in XP using compatibility mode...and it worked and never crashed.
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07-29-2009, 08:06 PM | #7 |
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You ran a league with it? Because there are message boards full of people that can't do this, including me.
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07-29-2009, 08:09 PM | #8 |
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Just verified it doesn't work in Vista in compatibility mode. (for the record, working in XP won't help me anyway--but no one I've seen has gotten it to work since it requires a DOS framework)
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07-29-2009, 08:13 PM | #9 | |
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Don't think it was a league...I will have to find the game and see. I have an XP box right here.
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07-29-2009, 08:16 PM | #10 |
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Totally not necessary since I'm positive it crashes when it tries to update league stats and XP won't help my situation anyway.
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07-29-2009, 10:49 PM | #11 |
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Get a copy of VMware, that should run Windows 98/FPS:98 just fine.
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07-29-2009, 11:02 PM | #12 |
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OK, I will try that. Hopefully it will run smoothly.
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07-29-2009, 11:17 PM | #13 |
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Um, it looks like VM Ware is not free. Maybe I should have specified that I'm not going to purchase software specifically to run a game I already bought.
I've spent the better part of today trying to play this game and I'm getting pretty frustrated. Any free solutions that don't degrade performance severely like virtualbox did or am I just out of luck? Last edited by MJ4H : 07-29-2009 at 11:19 PM. |
07-29-2009, 11:21 PM | #14 |
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There are virtualization options that aren't VMware. Xen comes to mind. Never done it at home, but it seems fairly reliable.
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07-29-2009, 11:25 PM | #15 |
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Well, the issue is finding one that doesn't degrade performance so that the game is unplayable, which Virtualbox did. I'm really looking for a recommendation from someone that can say they've used x option and the performance was really good or something like that. My first attempt at this was such a catastrophe it took like 4 hours to even get the game to work and when I finally got it to work it was unplayably slow. I'm trying to avoid wasting another 4 hours like that, if possible.
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07-30-2009, 07:29 AM | #16 | |
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How much memory did you supply to the virtual machine? How much does your host have? Not enough RAM in either scenario will make your VM perform like crap because it will be thrashing to disk all the time.
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07-30-2009, 08:40 AM | #17 |
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Dosbox maybe? I haven't run into anything old I haven't been able to get going in it.
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07-30-2009, 09:15 AM | #18 |
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I'm in the same boat as Macro on this one. I still own BBpro 98, and I've installed it several times throughout the years and gotten it to run without a hitch.
I miss that game.
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07-30-2009, 10:15 AM | #19 | |
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I'm not sure, but I guess this is valid. I will look into this. |
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07-30-2009, 10:28 AM | #20 |
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Just tried allocating 1 GB of system RAM and 32 MB of video RAM and same result. Runs like molasses.
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07-30-2009, 11:17 AM | #21 |
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VMWare offers a free version, called VMWare Player. You'll have to do some searching to find a plain VM you can load and install Win98 on because the free VMWare Player doesn't let you create VMs only run them.
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07-30-2009, 11:21 AM | #22 |
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Yes I tried VM Player and did some searching and found nothing really useful. I think I'm just giving up on this. Shame, such a great game.
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07-30-2009, 11:54 AM | #23 |
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EasyVMX!: Virtual Machine Creator will let you build your VM for VM Player.
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07-30-2009, 12:09 PM | #24 |
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OK I'll try that.
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07-30-2009, 12:18 PM | #25 |
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Installing Win98 on a VM now.
edit: it is installing about 10x faster than on VirtualBox so that's promising. Last edited by MJ4H : 07-30-2009 at 12:30 PM. |
07-30-2009, 12:43 PM | #26 |
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Wow, it runs like a dream. Celeval and chinaski win the internets.
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