Grunting in tennis vs. vuvuzela in soccer

miami_fan · 07-02-2009, 05:54 AM

Poll To Come

FTR I don't see what the big deal is about either of these things. Neither one has reduced my enjoyment of watching either. However it seems to be a big issue over the last couple of weeks. Which one is more annoying to you? The grunting (specifically the females grunting since I have not heard any complaints about the guys) in tennis or the vuvuzela which are the plastic horns that were handed out during the Confederations Cup.

Radii · 07-02-2009, 06:09 AM

I said the vuvuzela because I'm in love with Maria Sharapova and nothing she does could possibly be wrong.

Neither noticeably detracts from my viewing enjoyment though, I don't really get the outrage here.

Ksyrup · 07-02-2009, 06:43 AM

This is like asking me what is more annoying - somone screaming at me from down the street, or someone screaming at me from China.

Plus, I didn't really think the Venezuelans were THAT annoying that they should be singled out (seriously, WTF is a vuvuzela?!).

whomario · 07-02-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

(seriously, WTF is a vuvuzela?!).

sort of a blow horn type instrument (out of plastic mostly) with a kind of deep sound (and 1 sound only, part of the annoyance with it) that can be hold for ages, is used heavily and mainly by supporters of South African Soccer Teams since like the mid 90s, for some reason unknown ...
And since the Confederation Cup was there (and World Cup will be) it made it´s way into the public ear

I found it to be fine, but then again i´ve live in Africa for years as a teenager and thus have a high tolerance for rather untypical music/tunes.
Actually i even like the sound of it, although i get why players could complain.

It´s just how it is, african stadium atmosphere is different and "we" should maybe just embrace the suck for once, it´s not like Africa will host another major global sporting event in the next 30 years ...

Tennis grunting however ... Sounds worse with some then others though. But there is nothing worse than a player suddenly starting to grunt mid match out of nowhere (which happens enough), that is one of the big WTF Moments in sports watching

DaddyTorgo · 07-02-2009, 07:39 AM

when they grunt i can imagine...well yeah...the grunting is fine by me

Ksyrup · 07-02-2009, 07:56 AM

I didn't see a second of the matches, so I don't know how annoying they are. But I hate the whistles and crap in general that I've heard during soccer matches, so I'm sure I'd consider this annoying, too.

wade moore · 07-02-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I didn't see a second of the matches, so I don't know how annoying they are. But I hate the whistles and crap in general that I've heard during soccer matches, so I'm sure I'd consider this annoying, too.

This is a new kind of something for me. It's 1,000's of people blowing these things non-stop for the entire match. It's very weird - and annoying imo.

ISiddiqui · 07-02-2009, 08:09 AM

Neither bothers me.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-02-2009, 08:13 AM

If you like a continuous droning sound in the background for your sporting events, the vuvuzela is right up your alley.

wade moore · 07-02-2009, 08:14 AM

And fwiw - I'm against "artificial noise" in any respect from fans. I think that crowd noise should be made by people - yell, scream, clap, stomp - i'm a bit of a traditionalist with that.

samifan24 · 07-02-2009, 08:27 AM

Are the vuvuzelas the things responsible for the Confed Cup matches all sounding like they were played with a swarm of killer bees overhead? If so, I hate them.

DaddyTorgo · 07-02-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Are the vuvuzelas the things responsible for the Confed Cup matches all sounding like they were played with a swarm of killer bees overhead? If so, I hate them.

yep

EagleFan · 07-02-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

And fwiw - I'm against "artificial noise" in any respect from fans. I think that crowd noise should be made by people - yell, scream, clap, stomp - i'm a bit of a traditionalist with that.

Amen!!!! Get rid of those idiotic horns and cow bells.

MJ4H · 07-02-2009, 09:29 AM

Don't they have those things or similar at MLS games? I hear that same crap all the time in those games? Most annoying thing ever. Yes, it seriously detracts from my enjoyment of the games.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-02-2009, 10:27 AM

I keep reading the subject line of this thread as "Grunting in tennis vs. vulvas in soccer". Geez.

RendeR · 07-02-2009, 11:07 AM

Technicaly the grunting in tennis is actually cheating.

A large amount of the information a player reacts to when the ball is struck is the sound it makes coming off the racket. When a player grunts loudly it disrupts that sound and interferes with their opponents ability to react.

Now some would say thats a tactical choice, however tennis is a "gentleman's" sport, everything about the rules and regs for tennis are designed to remove such artificial interferences with game play.

Grunting must go.
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I don't give a frak about soccer noise.

MrDNA · 07-02-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

when they grunt i can imagine...well yeah...the grunting is fine by me

I'm with DT on this. My perverted imagination likes the grunting.

Pumpy Tudors · 07-02-2009, 11:35 AM

The xuxavulvas or whatever they're called are not cool. They really don't bother me, but my wife very nearly made me turn off the Confederations Cup final because of that noise. I actually felt guilty for watching it because I knew the sound was annoying her. I don't like sports to make me feel guilty unless I've charged the field, bludgeoned a backup cornerback with my shoe, and then sat down on the ground and sadly reflected on what I'd done.

Not that that's ever happened more than once.

MikeVic · 07-02-2009, 11:38 AM

But Colin White plays defense?

Pumpy Tudors · 07-02-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

But Colin White plays defense?

Solecismic · 07-02-2009, 01:14 PM

Normally, I'm the first to mute the television because of an annoying sound. The horns don't bother me at all, though.

I often watch football with the sound off, because there are so many commercials. So it's nice to watch soccer, because they refuse to stop the action every three minutes. I can leave the sound on without risk.

It's sort of a white noise. And it reminds me a lot of going to Michigan football games when I was a kid, All Saturday long, there were airplanes flying banner ads close to the stadium (that was banned after 9/11).

panerd · 07-02-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

It´s just how it is, african stadium atmosphere is different and "we" should maybe just embrace the suck for once, it´s not like Africa will host another major global sporting event in the next 30 years ...

FIFA.com - 2010 FIFA World Cupâ„¢ - Destination South Africa

DaddyTorgo · 07-02-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

FIFA.com - 2010 FIFA World Cupâ„¢ - Destination South Africa

I'm pretty sure "after the world cup" was implied in his answer

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View Poll Results: What is more annoying
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07-02-2009, 06:43 AM	#3
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This is like asking me what is more annoying - somone screaming at me from down the street, or someone screaming at me from China. Plus, I didn't really think the Venezuelans were THAT annoying that they should be singled out (seriously, WTF is a vuvuzela?!). __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-02-2009, 07:39 AM	#5
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07-02-2009, 07:56 AM	#6
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I didn't see a second of the matches, so I don't know how annoying they are. But I hate the whistles and crap in general that I've heard during soccer matches, so I'm sure I'd consider this annoying, too. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-02-2009, 08:09 AM	#8
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Neither bothers me. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-02-2009, 06:09 AM	#2
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I said the vuvuzela because I'm in love with Maria Sharapova and nothing she does could possibly be wrong. Neither noticeably detracts from my viewing enjoyment though, I don't really get the outrage here.

07-02-2009, 08:13 AM	#9
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	If you like a continuous droning sound in the background for your sporting events, the vuvuzela is right up your alley. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-02-2009, 08:27 AM	#11
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Are the vuvuzelas the things responsible for the Confed Cup matches all sounding like they were played with a swarm of killer bees overhead? If so, I hate them. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

07-02-2009, 09:29 AM	#14
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Don't they have those things or similar at MLS games? I hear that same crap all the time in those games? Most annoying thing ever. Yes, it seriously detracts from my enjoyment of the games. __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

07-02-2009, 10:27 AM	#15
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I keep reading the subject line of this thread as "Grunting in tennis vs. vulvas in soccer". Geez.

07-02-2009, 11:07 AM	#16
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Technicaly the grunting in tennis is actually cheating. A large amount of the information a player reacts to when the ball is struck is the sound it makes coming off the racket. When a player grunts loudly it disrupts that sound and interferes with their opponents ability to react. Now some would say thats a tactical choice, however tennis is a "gentleman's" sport, everything about the rules and regs for tennis are designed to remove such artificial interferences with game play. Grunting must go. I I don't give a frak about soccer noise. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

07-02-2009, 11:35 AM	#18
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	The xuxavulvas or whatever they're called are not cool. They really don't bother me, but my wife very nearly made me turn off the Confederations Cup final because of that noise. I actually felt guilty for watching it because I knew the sound was annoying her. I don't like sports to make me feel guilty unless I've charged the field, bludgeoned a backup cornerback with my shoe, and then sat down on the ground and sadly reflected on what I'd done. Not that that's ever happened more than once. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

07-02-2009, 11:38 AM	#19
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	But Colin White plays defense?

07-02-2009, 01:14 PM	#21
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Normally, I'm the first to mute the television because of an annoying sound. The horns don't bother me at all, though. I often watch football with the sound off, because there are so many commercials. So it's nice to watch soccer, because they refuse to stop the action every three minutes. I can leave the sound on without risk. It's sort of a white noise. And it reminds me a lot of going to Michigan football games when I was a kid, All Saturday long, there were airplanes flying banner ads close to the stadium (that was banned after 9/11).

07-02-2009, 02:01 PM	#24
Sgran High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Budapest	eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH eeH eh-EH clap-clap-clap 15-30 limpness __________________ What the hell is Mike Brown diagramming for them during timeouts? Is he like the guy from "Memento" or something? Guys, I just thought of something … what if we ran a high screen for LeBron?

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