Since I've been spamming SI related posts, how about one more - EHM - want a new one.

astrosfan64 · 08-22-2008, 03:33 PM

I really would love to see another version of EHM. I really think if they stick with it, like they did their soccer franchise it will continue to grow. The first CM's got bad reviews and didn't sell that great, but they stuck with it.

EHM was a great game and was only going to get better.

If I was SI - which i'm not. But, if I was---- I would scrap all the licensing deals they had last time. That just adds to the cost of making the game. I would self publish it in a download only format with companies like Steam, Elicense, gamersgate etc... Again, this will keep the costs down and allow for bigger margins.

I really think it would catch on, but they need to keep at it.

Bring back EHM!

JPhillips · 08-22-2008, 04:08 PM

I think the problem is Sega. I don't think it's accidental that after Sega bought SI both EHM and OOTP stopped being SI games.

duff88 · 08-22-2008, 04:55 PM

I think the biggest problem may have been marketting. I understand the game is developped in Britain, but there's no excuse to letting anyone in Canada know about the game without intensively searching for this kind of game. I have personally never met anyone who had heard of the game.

Fidatelo · 08-22-2008, 06:46 PM

I think the problem was that they took a really good freeware hockey manager game and made it into CM with NHL teams. I'd love to pay for an EHM done more like the old one.

RomaGoth · 08-22-2008, 06:56 PM

I would love to see a new EHM. I liked EHM 2005 much more than EHM 2007 though. The latter one reeked of Too Many improvements that were not, at least in my opinion, improvements.

Oh yeah, and Sega sucks. What EHM needs is someone like FOFC or Grey Dog to develop and release it.

samifan24 · 08-22-2008, 07:50 PM

It would be awesome if they created a new EHM but I doubt it will ever happen and most assuredly not by SI if it did.

astrosfan64 · 08-22-2008, 08:02 PM

I don't think the game is totally dead. I think riz posted about it a while ago on the si games forums.

bhlloy · 08-22-2008, 08:47 PM

The SI versions of EHM did scouting and player development better than any other sports sim ever IMO. I think Riz will put out another version sometime in the future, hopefully combining the best parts of the freeware and the SI versions of the game...

Now you mention it... EHM and Grey Dog makes so much sense I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. (hint hint)

JPhillips · 08-22-2008, 08:52 PM

Doesn't Riz still work for SI? It would be tough to leave that good job to chase the EHM dream.

Pumpy Tudors · 08-22-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Doesn't Riz still work for SI? It would be tough to leave that good job to chase the EHM dream.

Yeah, I've been thinking this same thing since the beginning of the thread. Riz is working on FM now (unless something has changed in the past few months). I don't think he's going to be jumping back into EHM anytime soon.

Tekneek · 08-22-2008, 10:42 PM

They are hung up on "licensing" and such. They don't want to release a game that isn't directly tied into real professional sports leagues.

I want to have a solid hockey simulator that would allow me to construct leagues and universes myself (ala OOTP). Build an engine that will allow me to create my own leagues, with their own rules (within reasonable limits, of course), and own player eligibility rules, etc.

I would love to see the "sports management game" genre, in general, aim more for making rock solid engines with customization capabilities that let the community-at-large come up with league/team/player data.

astrosfan64 · 08-23-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

They are hung up on "licensing" and such. They don't want to release a game that isn't directly tied into real professional sports leagues.

I want to have a solid hockey simulator that would allow me to construct leagues and universes myself (ala OOTP). Build an engine that will allow me to create my own leagues, with their own rules (within reasonable limits, of course), and own player eligibility rules, etc.

I would love to see the "sports management game" genre, in general, aim more for making rock solid engines with customization capabilities that let the community-at-large come up with league/team/player data.

agreed

08-22-2008, 04:08 PM	#2
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I think the problem is Sega. I don't think it's accidental that after Sega bought SI both EHM and OOTP stopped being SI games. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

08-22-2008, 04:55 PM	#3
duff88 College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2005	I think the biggest problem may have been marketting. I understand the game is developped in Britain, but there's no excuse to letting anyone in Canada know about the game without intensively searching for this kind of game. I have personally never met anyone who had heard of the game. __________________ The Battle of Quebec [EHM:EA Dynasty]

08-22-2008, 06:46 PM	#4
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I think the problem was that they took a really good freeware hockey manager game and made it into CM with NHL teams. I'd love to pay for an EHM done more like the old one. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

08-22-2008, 07:50 PM	#6
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	It would be awesome if they created a new EHM but I doubt it will ever happen and most assuredly not by SI if it did. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

08-22-2008, 08:47 PM	#8
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	The SI versions of EHM did scouting and player development better than any other sports sim ever IMO. I think Riz will put out another version sometime in the future, hopefully combining the best parts of the freeware and the SI versions of the game... Now you mention it... EHM and Grey Dog makes so much sense I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. (hint hint) Last edited by bhlloy : 08-22-2008 at 08:47 PM.

08-22-2008, 08:02 PM	#7
astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	I don't think the game is totally dead. I think riz posted about it a while ago on the si games forums.

08-22-2008, 08:52 PM	#9
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Doesn't Riz still work for SI? It would be tough to leave that good job to chase the EHM dream. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

08-22-2008, 10:42 PM	#11
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	They are hung up on "licensing" and such. They don't want to release a game that isn't directly tied into real professional sports leagues. I want to have a solid hockey simulator that would allow me to construct leagues and universes myself (ala OOTP). Build an engine that will allow me to create my own leagues, with their own rules (within reasonable limits, of course), and own player eligibility rules, etc. I would love to see the "sports management game" genre, in general, aim more for making rock solid engines with customization capabilities that let the community-at-large come up with league/team/player data.

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