Fantasy Football Keeper Advice

MikeVic · 08-11-2008, 08:33 PM

Hopefully this can be a multi-purpose fantasy football thread.

Anyway, we can keep one guy as a lifetime keeper, and one guy for just one year.

Last year, I picked Shaun Alexander as my one-time guy (bleh), and Joseph Addai as my lifetime guy.

So this year, I'm thinking I better keep Addai as my lifetime again... but I have quite a few options for my one-time guy:

Carson Palmer
Brandon Jacobs
Reggie Wayne
Ronnie Brown

I'm heavily leaning towards Wayne. He can be the #1 WR in fantasy, and I'm scared about Jacobs' and Brown's health/consistency. Palmer is a dark-horse to keep here, but I think the other three are better choices.

Thanks for any input.

DaddyTorgo · 08-11-2008, 08:35 PM

I wholeheartedly agree

Lathum · 08-11-2008, 08:52 PM

Well...

how many teams are in the league?
How many QB's get played?
Where do you draft?

I would personaly keep Palmer.

PackerFanatic · 08-11-2008, 08:57 PM

Alexander bit a lot of people. Addai is a good keeper, as he will continue to be a solid back. I would also concur on keeping Wayne. I imagine Palmer will turn things around from last year, but like you said, Wayne is a top 3, if not top 2, WR.

MikeVic · 08-11-2008, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Well...

how many teams are in the league?
How many QB's get played?
Where do you draft?

I would personaly keep Palmer.

12 teams, one QB, I lost my first rounder next year, but would've been picking third... So my first selection is in round two. Does this change your opinion at all?

kurtism · 08-11-2008, 09:16 PM

Aside from having two keepers from the same team, I can't think of another reason why Wayne shouldn't be the keeper.

Lathum · 08-11-2008, 11:21 PM

Not sure why the love for Wayne.

Palmer is a top 5 fantasy QB who will get alot more points then Wayne would.

thesloppy · 08-12-2008, 02:58 AM

I kept Carson Palmer over Tom Brady last year.

I did not do so, how you say, "good"?

With that said, I'm keeping Palmer again this year, just because good QBs score consistently higher, and even a mediocore QB can usually match scores with a top-tier WR or RB (depending on your scoring system, of course). A mediocore WR (or a top WR having a mediocore year) does not score so hot, and they're also a dime a dozen. WRs in general are much more available, by design, so that's also something to consider. There's going to be 5-10 top tier QBs, and their could be anywhere upwards of 20 top tier WRs available in most drafts, even with keepers. In a keeper league, you could easily have only one or two blue chip QBs available, and it doesn't make much sense to let one go.

Wayne certainly has great potential though. Who knows what's going on in Marvin's mind right now, and how his Perry Mason proceedings are going to effect his play and/or the team's relationship with him.

MikeVic · 08-12-2008, 09:20 AM

Ok, I'm looking at last year's scoring output...

Palmer was ranked 9th in QBs (a bad year for him), and averaged 13.9 points per game. Wayne was ranked 4th in WRs (something more reasonable for what he could do this year again) and averaged 12.8 points per game)...

Moss was #1 in WRs with 18 PPG, followed by a 14PPG and then gradually going down... Brady was #1 in QBs with 24.1 PPGs, followed by a 17.9, and then gradually going down but with a bunch more higher scoring QBs than WRs.

I think I can see the point that in the end, Palmer can give me more points, and I can gamble that I find a couple of sleeper WRs that give me consistent points...

BigMak · 08-12-2008, 11:43 AM

In a 1 QB league, I would keep Wayne. Most teams are going to keep at least 1 RB. The second keeper will more than likely be a RB or top WR. Only QB's I can see definitely being kept are Brady and Manning. Possibly Brees and Romo.

That still leaves you with 4 QB's out there who outscored Palmer. Palmer should improve but why let one of the top 5 WR's go. Between the 2nd and 9th ranked QB, it is only a 4 point difference. I would keep the top WR and draft one of the QBs who are thrown back.

Wayne is a clear keeper. If you keep Wayne and still draft deep at WR, he can be traded for one of the top QBs. Palmer will not have any trade value. I would rather draft an Anderson, Garrard, Roethlisberger than keeping Palmer.

Lathum · 08-12-2008, 11:54 AM

except that he doesnt pick until the second round so all the teams that didn't protect a QB will snatch up all the good ones before he picks

MikeVic · 08-14-2008, 09:36 AM

I'm still conflicted on this. Looking at a site (rtsports.com), Reggie Wayne is way ahead of Carson Palmer in terms of average draft position and top keepers. In average draft position, even Ronnie Brown is ahead of Palmer... so I still don't know what to do, but Palmer seems like a lesser option right now.

Racer · 08-14-2008, 10:14 AM

How many points are passing touchdowns worth? If they are not worth 6 points, then I would definitely go with Wayne. Otherwise the decision becomes slightly tougher, but I would still probably keep Wayne. As long as you can draft a couple of guys like Eli, Garrard, Rivers, and Delhomme and one of them puts up a top 10 season you should be fine.

MikeVic · 08-14-2008, 10:53 AM

Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-2)

I might wait a bit to see who else is kept.

08-11-2008, 08:57 PM	#4
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Alexander bit a lot of people. Addai is a good keeper, as he will continue to be a solid back. I would also concur on keeping Wayne. I imagine Palmer will turn things around from last year, but like you said, Wayne is a top 3, if not top 2, WR. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

08-11-2008, 08:35 PM	#2
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I wholeheartedly agree

08-11-2008, 08:52 PM	#3
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Well... how many teams are in the league? How many QB's get played? Where do you draft? I would personaly keep Palmer.

08-11-2008, 09:16 PM	#6
kurtism High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Noblesville	Aside from having two keepers from the same team, I can't think of another reason why Wayne shouldn't be the keeper.

08-11-2008, 11:21 PM	#7
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Not sure why the love for Wayne. Palmer is a top 5 fantasy QB who will get alot more points then Wayne would.

08-12-2008, 02:58 AM	#8
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I kept Carson Palmer over Tom Brady last year. I did not do so, how you say, "good"? With that said, I'm keeping Palmer again this year, just because good QBs score consistently higher, and even a mediocore QB can usually match scores with a top-tier WR or RB (depending on your scoring system, of course). A mediocore WR (or a top WR having a mediocore year) does not score so hot, and they're also a dime a dozen. WRs in general are much more available, by design, so that's also something to consider. There's going to be 5-10 top tier QBs, and their could be anywhere upwards of 20 top tier WRs available in most drafts, even with keepers. In a keeper league, you could easily have only one or two blue chip QBs available, and it doesn't make much sense to let one go. Wayne certainly has great potential though. Who knows what's going on in Marvin's mind right now, and how his Perry Mason proceedings are going to effect his play and/or the team's relationship with him.

08-12-2008, 09:20 AM	#9
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Ok, I'm looking at last year's scoring output... Palmer was ranked 9th in QBs (a bad year for him), and averaged 13.9 points per game. Wayne was ranked 4th in WRs (something more reasonable for what he could do this year again) and averaged 12.8 points per game)... Moss was #1 in WRs with 18 PPG, followed by a 14PPG and then gradually going down... Brady was #1 in QBs with 24.1 PPGs, followed by a 17.9, and then gradually going down but with a bunch more higher scoring QBs than WRs. I think I can see the point that in the end, Palmer can give me more points, and I can gamble that I find a couple of sleeper WRs that give me consistent points...

08-12-2008, 11:43 AM	#10
BigMak n00b Join Date: Dec 2004	In a 1 QB league, I would keep Wayne. Most teams are going to keep at least 1 RB. The second keeper will more than likely be a RB or top WR. Only QB's I can see definitely being kept are Brady and Manning. Possibly Brees and Romo. That still leaves you with 4 QB's out there who outscored Palmer. Palmer should improve but why let one of the top 5 WR's go. Between the 2nd and 9th ranked QB, it is only a 4 point difference. I would keep the top WR and draft one of the QBs who are thrown back. Wayne is a clear keeper. If you keep Wayne and still draft deep at WR, he can be traded for one of the top QBs. Palmer will not have any trade value. I would rather draft an Anderson, Garrard, Roethlisberger than keeping Palmer.

08-12-2008, 11:54 AM	#11
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	except that he doesnt pick until the second round so all the teams that didn't protect a QB will snatch up all the good ones before he picks

08-14-2008, 09:36 AM	#12
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I'm still conflicted on this. Looking at a site (rtsports.com), Reggie Wayne is way ahead of Carson Palmer in terms of average draft position and top keepers. In average draft position, even Ronnie Brown is ahead of Palmer... so I still don't know what to do, but Palmer seems like a lesser option right now.

08-14-2008, 10:14 AM	#13
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	How many points are passing touchdowns worth? If they are not worth 6 points, then I would definitely go with Wayne. Otherwise the decision becomes slightly tougher, but I would still probably keep Wayne. As long as you can draft a couple of guys like Eli, Garrard, Rivers, and Delhomme and one of them puts up a top 10 season you should be fine.

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08-14-2008, 10:53 AM	#14
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Passing Yards (25 yards per point) Passing Touchdowns (4) Interceptions (-2) I might wait a bit to see who else is kept.