Victor Zambrano sucks - Page 2

Captain2711 · 05-06-2006, 12:18 PM

Zambrano has a 1-2-3 first inning culminating with a strikeout of Larry 'Chipper' Jones. Has hell frozen over?

Logan · 05-06-2006, 12:34 PM

WTF did Zambrano just do?

Captain2711 · 05-06-2006, 12:36 PM

Even when he's on, he still manages to scew the Mets. After a 14-inning marathon Victor takes himself out after retiring the first four, the last 2 on so's.

JS19 · 05-06-2006, 12:48 PM

This is hilarious, Zambrano just fucks you over every way possible. I think he just thought it was 3rd out and say "fuck it, might as well keep going".

I never thought the day would come when I am hoping he isn't hurt too bad. With Bannister and Maine both out and Lima on his way up, this has bad news written all over it.

General Mike · 05-06-2006, 01:00 PM

what a tool.

Captain2711 · 05-06-2006, 01:02 PM

And the team totally got fucked. They put Maine on the DL knowing he couldn't pitch Sunday and that Bannister would be back before his next turn in the rotationand they could use the spot for another reliever for today's game. Now with him on the DL, if Lima pitches poorly they have no one to replace him. Assuming Zambrano goes DL, they are screwed in the next five games unless it becomes Lima time at Shea tomoroow.

ISiddiqui · 05-06-2006, 01:07 PM

ARGHHH! Fucking Zambrano!

Put Heilman in the rotation, Willie!

Logan · 05-06-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

ARGHHH! Fucking Zambrano!

Put Heilman in the rotation, Willie!

No, no, and no.

General Mike · 05-06-2006, 03:12 PM

Willie Randolph can NOT manage. He is awful. The worst I have ever seen. Totally clueless.

ISiddiqui · 05-06-2006, 03:14 PM

The game is 6-5 in the 9th... where is Wagner?

ISiddiqui · 05-06-2006, 03:17 PM

WOOOOOT!!

METS WIN!

General Mike · 05-06-2006, 03:18 PM

Jorge got lucky.

Captain2711 · 05-06-2006, 03:29 PM

Willie after the game...

"Zambrano just didn't look right to me."

Must have been the 3 strikeouts and retiring all the batters he faced.

JS19 · 05-06-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain2711

Willie after the game...

"Zambrano just didn't look right to me."

Must have been the 3 strikeouts and retiring all the batters he faced.

Thats hilarious.

Wagner went 2 innings last night I think, thats why he wasn't in there.

Captain2711 · 05-07-2006, 11:40 AM

Victor Zambrano is OUT for the year. Not only has he made trading Kazmir a complete waste, he has also ended this thread before it got really started. Can't wait for 2007. Thanks for all of it Victor.

terpkristin · 05-07-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Another 2 run bomb to Jones. Why can't this guy just tear an arm ligament and call it a season already, or a career.

Done and done.
Well, season anyway. Tommy John surgery in his future.

/tk

terpkristin · 05-07-2006, 11:54 AM

Dola,
Well, this article on ESPN says it's just a tendon injury but still out for the season, but I heard them say on SC this morning that it was ligament damage and he needed TJ surgery. Either way, sounds like he's done for the season, wonder what the injury really is...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

/tk

miami_fan · 05-07-2006, 11:55 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2436519

ESPN.com news services

Victor Zambrano's season was effectively ended on Saturday after he tore his flexor tendon in his right elbow after leaving the Mets' 6-5 win over the Braves.

Zambrano struck out Andruw Jones to record the first out of the second inning and then sprinted off the mound straight through the dugout and into the clubhouse.

"He's out for the year," agent Peter Greenberg told the New York Daily News, after an MRI revealed the news Saturday. "He's down, obviously. He's been pitching with some pain for a while. Now he knows what it is. The doctor told him the ligament is in good shape, which is good news."

Team officials did not elaborate on Zambrano's condition and planned to announce the diagnosis on Sunday along with roster changes. Greenberg said Zambrano will speak with the doctor to schedule surgery and might seek a second opinion.

"He was crying," fellow Mets pitcher Pedro Martinez was reported as saying. "His elbow just blew up like a balloon. You could see it from far away."

Two pitches before striking out Jones, manager Willie Randolph had visited the mound with trainer Ray Ramirez after seeing Zambrano shaking his right arm.

"I wanted to make sure," Randolph said, the Daily News reported. "I looked him in the eye three times and told him I didn't want him to take a chance. He told me he was all right."

Martinez said Zambrano's right elbow has been hurting since the start of the season though Zambrano did not let team officials know of his discomfort.

General Manager Omar Minaya and the Mets' pitching coach, Rick Peterson, said Zambrano never discussed the pain with them.

"It's up to the player to reveal that information to the medical staff," The New York Times reported Minaya as saying.

Zambrano's injury is the latest of the Mets' pitching woes. With starters John Maine, Zambrano and Brian Bannister down the Mets must reshuffle their starting pitching lineup. José Lima was recalled from Norfolk to start against the Braves today.

How much is this injury is the fault of the player and how much is it the fault of the staff? The portion that I highlighted tends to give me two trains of thought. I agree with Minaya when he says that the player has to tell the medical staff he is hurting. But on the other hand, I think that the coaching staff has to notice that something was not right with him and have him checked out. I am not concerned with hammering one side or the other. Injuries happen. It just seems that since baseball tends to be extra protective of pitchers (which may be partly to blame as well), it surprises me that he could have significant pain throughout the season, suffer this injury and the staff not be aware of the pain.

miami_fan · 05-07-2006, 12:00 PM

Remind me not to play badly for any team JS19 roots for. Once he puts the hex on ya......

ISiddiqui · 05-07-2006, 01:20 PM

Well... can we now say that Zambrano has been more of a waste than Chan Ho-Park? After all, at least Park gives you innings!

General Mike · 05-07-2006, 02:21 PM

Good riddance.

dawgfan · 05-10-2006, 05:42 PM

Man, this trade looked real questionable at the time, and the subsequent performances of Kazmir and Zambrano are just proving that it wasn't just questionable (from the Mets point of view) but downright idiotic.

Lathum · 05-11-2006, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Man, this trade looked real questionable at the time, and the subsequent performances of Kazmir and Zambrano are just proving that it wasn't just questionable (from the Mets point of view) but downright idiotic.

how does it feel to be the last one to find out?

dawgfan · 05-11-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

how does it feel to be the last one to find out?

I wasn't, I was just the last one to comment on it. I thought of it again yesterday while seeing Kazmir dominate the Mariners, but as I said, I questioned the wisdom of the trade from the Mets side when it went down.

Lathum · 05-11-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I wasn't, I was just the last one to comment on it. I thought of it again yesterday while seeing Kazmir dominate the Mariners, but as I said, I questioned the wisdom of the trade from the Mets side when it went down.

you need to turn up your sarcasim meter my friend...

JS19 · 05-22-2006, 12:21 AM

Kazmir allowed four hits and matched a career-high with 11 strikeouts in eight innings, helping the Devil Rays beat Dontrelle Willis and the punchless Marlins 3-0 for the young left-hander's fifth straight win.
At 22, Kazmir is the youngest major league pitcher to win seven games this early in a season since Fernando Valenzuela in 1981.

Terrible, just terrible.

JS19 · 12-13-2006, 08:36 PM

Well, he wasn't offered a contract, so hopefully this means the end of Victor Zambrano as a NY Met for good.

Captain2711 · 04-04-2007, 02:49 PM

Victor's currently making his debut for the Blue Jays in a 10-2 rout by the Tigers and promptly walks a batter, gives up a triple and walks another.

Travis · 04-04-2007, 03:07 PM

And now it's 10-9 in the 8th as the Jays storm back.

Back to back extra inning games to start the season for Tor/Det?

Logan · 04-05-2007, 07:17 AM

This thread is much more tolerable -- no, enjoyable -- when Zambrano is sucking for another team.

Captain2711 · 08-01-2008, 05:46 PM

Victor Zambrano has been spotted signing a minor league deal with the New York Yankees.

sony · 08-02-2008, 04:20 PM

who is victor zambrano?

i only know of carlos zambrano of the cubbies. lol

05-06-2006, 12:36 PM	#53
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Even when he's on, he still manages to scew the Mets. After a 14-inning marathon Victor takes himself out after retiring the first four, the last 2 on so's. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

05-06-2006, 12:48 PM	#54
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	This is hilarious, Zambrano just fucks you over every way possible. I think he just thought it was 3rd out and say "fuck it, might as well keep going". I never thought the day would come when I am hoping he isn't hurt too bad. With Bannister and Maine both out and Lima on his way up, this has bad news written all over it. Last edited by JS19 : 05-06-2006 at 12:48 PM.

05-06-2006, 01:02 PM	#56
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	And the team totally got fucked. They put Maine on the DL knowing he couldn't pitch Sunday and that Bannister would be back before his next turn in the rotationand they could use the spot for another reliever for today's game. Now with him on the DL, if Lima pitches poorly they have no one to replace him. Assuming Zambrano goes DL, they are screwed in the next five games unless it becomes Lima time at Shea tomoroow. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

05-06-2006, 01:07 PM	#57
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	ARGHHH! Fucking Zambrano! Put Heilman in the rotation, Willie! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-06-2006, 03:14 PM	#60
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	The game is 6-5 in the 9th... where is Wagner? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-06-2006, 12:34 PM	#52
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	WTF did Zambrano just do?

05-06-2006, 01:00 PM	#55
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	what a tool.

05-06-2006, 03:12 PM	#59
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Willie Randolph can NOT manage. He is awful. The worst I have ever seen. Totally clueless.

05-06-2006, 03:17 PM	#61
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	WOOOOOT!! METS WIN! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-06-2006, 03:18 PM	#62
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Jorge got lucky.

05-06-2006, 03:29 PM	#63
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Willie after the game... "Zambrano just didn't look right to me." Must have been the 3 strikeouts and retiring all the batters he faced. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

05-07-2006, 11:40 AM	#65
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Victor Zambrano is OUT for the year. Not only has he made trading Kazmir a complete waste, he has also ended this thread before it got really started. Can't wait for 2007. Thanks for all of it Victor. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

05-07-2006, 11:54 AM	#67
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Dola, Well, this article on ESPN says it's just a tendon injury but still out for the season, but I heard them say on SC this morning that it was ligament damage and he needed TJ surgery. Either way, sounds like he's done for the season, wonder what the injury really is... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

05-07-2006, 11:55 AM	#68
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2436519 ESPN.com news services Victor Zambrano's season was effectively ended on Saturday after he tore his flexor tendon in his right elbow after leaving the Mets' 6-5 win over the Braves. Zambrano struck out Andruw Jones to record the first out of the second inning and then sprinted off the mound straight through the dugout and into the clubhouse. "He's out for the year," agent Peter Greenberg told the New York Daily News, after an MRI revealed the news Saturday. "He's down, obviously. He's been pitching with some pain for a while. Now he knows what it is. The doctor told him the ligament is in good shape, which is good news." Team officials did not elaborate on Zambrano's condition and planned to announce the diagnosis on Sunday along with roster changes. Greenberg said Zambrano will speak with the doctor to schedule surgery and might seek a second opinion. "He was crying," fellow Mets pitcher Pedro Martinez was reported as saying. "His elbow just blew up like a balloon. You could see it from far away." Two pitches before striking out Jones, manager Willie Randolph had visited the mound with trainer Ray Ramirez after seeing Zambrano shaking his right arm. "I wanted to make sure," Randolph said, the Daily News reported. "I looked him in the eye three times and told him I didn't want him to take a chance. He told me he was all right." Martinez said Zambrano's right elbow has been hurting since the start of the season though Zambrano did not let team officials know of his discomfort. General Manager Omar Minaya and the Mets' pitching coach, Rick Peterson, said Zambrano never discussed the pain with them. "It's up to the player to reveal that information to the medical staff," The New York Times reported Minaya as saying. Zambrano's injury is the latest of the Mets' pitching woes. With starters John Maine, Zambrano and Brian Bannister down the Mets must reshuffle their starting pitching lineup. José Lima was recalled from Norfolk to start against the Braves today. How much is this injury is the fault of the player and how much is it the fault of the staff? The portion that I highlighted tends to give me two trains of thought. I agree with Minaya when he says that the player has to tell the medical staff he is hurting. But on the other hand, I think that the coaching staff has to notice that something was not right with him and have him checked out. I am not concerned with hammering one side or the other. Injuries happen. It just seems that since baseball tends to be extra protective of pitchers (which may be partly to blame as well), it surprises me that he could have significant pain throughout the season, suffer this injury and the staff not be aware of the pain.

05-07-2006, 12:00 PM	#69
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Remind me not to play badly for any team JS19 roots for. Once he puts the hex on ya......

05-07-2006, 01:20 PM	#70
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well... can we now say that Zambrano has been more of a waste than Chan Ho-Park? After all, at least Park gives you innings! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-07-2006, 02:21 PM	#71
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Good riddance. __________________ Boise Stampede Continental Football League Jacksonville Jaguars GM North American Football League Nebraska Coach FOFC-BBCF Rutgers & Washington coach Bowl Bound-BBCF

05-10-2006, 05:42 PM	#72
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Man, this trade looked real questionable at the time, and the subsequent performances of Kazmir and Zambrano are just proving that it wasn't just questionable (from the Mets point of view) but downright idiotic.

05-22-2006, 12:21 AM	#76
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Kazmir allowed four hits and matched a career-high with 11 strikeouts in eight innings, helping the Devil Rays beat Dontrelle Willis and the punchless Marlins 3-0 for the young left-hander's fifth straight win. At 22, Kazmir is the youngest major league pitcher to win seven games this early in a season since Fernando Valenzuela in 1981. Terrible, just terrible.

12-13-2006, 08:36 PM	#77
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Well, he wasn't offered a contract, so hopefully this means the end of Victor Zambrano as a NY Met for good.

04-04-2007, 02:49 PM	#78
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Victor's currently making his debut for the Blue Jays in a 10-2 rout by the Tigers and promptly walks a batter, gives up a triple and walks another. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

04-04-2007, 03:07 PM	#79
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	And now it's 10-9 in the 8th as the Jays storm back. Back to back extra inning games to start the season for Tor/Det?

04-05-2007, 07:17 AM	#80
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	This thread is much more tolerable -- no, enjoyable -- when Zambrano is sucking for another team.

08-01-2008, 05:46 PM	#81
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Victor Zambrano has been spotted signing a minor league deal with the New York Yankees. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

08-02-2008, 04:20 PM	#82
sony High School JV Join Date: May 2002 Location: Travis AFB, CA	who is victor zambrano? i only know of carlos zambrano of the cubbies. lol

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