OOTP6 or 6.5/RWBL Opening

Swaggs · 05-02-2005, 02:41 PM

The RWBL is a mature league founded by and largely made up of FOFCers. We are just entering our 3rd year of play (in real time) and our 17th season of (in game) play. The league was developed from the format of Major League Baseball in 2002, but since then nearly all of the existing players have retired (Pujols and Blalock are still active, for example) and we have moved to a 28-team league, contracting Montreal and Tampa Bay two seasons ago. 25 of our 28 owners have been in the league for 5 seasons or more, and several original owners are still in place. We use a 10-round amateur draft and Rule V and are on day 7 of free agency. We have a very active stable of writers that cover the league and keep things interesting.

The team that is open is the Florida Marlins. The Marlins won the NL Wildcard last season. They have the best young catcher in the league, in (soon-to-be) 25-year old Hack Rosenthal. Rosenthal is entering his sixth season in the big leagues, and put up a .314 average with 45 HR and 124 RBI. The team's other cornerstone player is 25-year old Alvaro "The Steamboat" Ortiz, who already has a .315 career average in 750 big league games.The team also has a standout closer in 28-year old Alfonso Pedrosa (33 saves, 2.14 ERA) and an aging ace in 36-year old Gerald Gross (13-7, 3.41 ERA). There are several other solid players on the big league roster. The farm is somewhat barren, due to last season's trades. The team's finances are in outstanding shape, with $20M in the bank and a payroll of $67M (last season the team earned over $100M). The team is pretty much on the bubble: it could be added to if you are looking to make a postseason run, or there are some pieces in place that could make rebuilding fun.

We are looking for an active owner that has OOTP6 and AIM, can export a few times a week, will follow the offseason closely, and will add to our league.

Here are our links:
RWBL Homepage

RWBL Messageboard

Florida Marlins' Team Page

If you are interested or have any questions, send me a u2u or look me up on AIM (Swaggs1977) or our other comissioner (bsak16).

Dr. Sak · 05-02-2005, 04:39 PM

Someone join so I can have some competition in my division

kcchief19 · 05-02-2005, 04:46 PM

Other than the fact that this team is in the Phillies' division, it's a great team. Swaggs is right -- it's a team you can either try to add one or two more pieces and make a playoff run for a while or go young and build for the future around Rosenthal and a couple of other nice young players. A great opportunity in a great league.

Maple Leafs · 05-02-2005, 04:52 PM

Surgeon General's Warning: Every person who tries to run a team in the RWBL NL East during the Phillies dynasty goes insane and disappears within two seasons. Not "disappears from the league". The dissapear from life entirely. Seriously. We've had 19 Mets owners since Labor Day. Legend is that they just snap one day and wander off, never to be seen or heard from again.

Some of them become pot-addicted wannabe musicians. Some find themselves uttering phrases like "I think I would have a better chance of winning if I took over the Pirates". Some vanish in the forest to wage hand-to-hand combat against Great Red Oaks. But they all disappear.

The only one who's immune is Adam, which seems to imply that you need to be Canadian to survive the horrors.

I wouldn't take the job if I were you.

JeeberD · 05-02-2005, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

We've had 19 Mets owners since Labor Day.

JeeberD · 05-02-2005, 05:01 PM

Dola-

I would try again, but I think I've found my perfect MP league level with three FOF leagues, one OOTP league and one FBCB league. Any more than that would be asking for trouble...

Draft Dodger · 05-02-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

The RWBL is a mature league founded by and largely made up of FOFCers.

I assume you mean mature in the old sense, not the adult sense...

Swaggs · 05-02-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Surgeon General's Warning: Every person who tries to run a team in the RWBL NL East during the Phillies dynasty goes insane and disappears within two seasons. Not "disappears from the league". The dissapear from life entirely. Seriously. We've had 19 Mets owners since Labor Day. Legend is that they just snap one day and wander off, never to be seen or heard from again.

Some of them become pot-addicted wannabe musicians. Some find themselves uttering phrases like "I think I would have a better chance of winning if I took over the Pirates". Some vanish in the forest to wage hand-to-hand combat against Great Red Oaks. But they all disappear.

The only one who's immune is Adam, which seems to imply that you need to be Canadian to survive the horrors.

I wouldn't take the job if I were you.

Thanks to your keen advertising campaign, we have managed to fill the opening.

stevew · 03-24-2006, 08:51 AM

Need 2 new owners. Pm Swaggs or bsak16 if you have any interest. Site address is http://www.rwbl-ootp-online.com/ .

WSUCougar · 03-24-2006, 09:10 AM

Thread moved to General Discussion by request

Crapshoot · 03-24-2006, 09:23 AM

out of curiousity, which current FOFC members are in it ?

stevew · 03-24-2006, 09:41 AM

Swaggs, Bsak16, MrBug, Dangarion, KCChief, Chinaski, Chief Rum, Draft Dodger, Nequa, Maple Leafs, I'm sure a few more that I missed.

Maple Leafs · 03-24-2006, 10:22 AM

Don't forget Schmidty, Adam, INDalltheway, vtbub ... is Andy still in the league?

ScottVib · 03-24-2006, 10:23 AM

Which teams..

General Mike · 03-24-2006, 10:27 AM

What Jeeber said above applies to me. I would take the Mets if they were available tho.

mooreadamc · 03-24-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Surgeon General's Warning: Every person who tries to run a team in the RWBL NL East during the Phillies dynasty goes insane and disappears within two seasons. Not "disappears from the league". The dissapear from life entirely. Seriously. We've had 19 Mets owners since Labor Day. Legend is that they just snap one day and wander off, never to be seen or heard from again.

Some of them become pot-addicted wannabe musicians. Some find themselves uttering phrases like "I think I would have a better chance of winning if I took over the Pirates". Some vanish in the forest to wage hand-to-hand combat against Great Red Oaks. But they all disappear.

The only one who's immune is Adam, which seems to imply that you need to be Canadian to survive the horrors.

I wouldn't take the job if I were you.

Wow first i've seen this

. I've still never beaten the Phillies but I did manager a wildcard one year and a World Series to boot. Great league

stevew · 03-24-2006, 11:54 AM

Brewers are the only open team left.

Arctus · 03-24-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Brewers are the only open team left.

sent a PM to swaggs around 10:00 this morning, still waiting on a reply

Dr. Sak · 08-26-2006, 01:51 PM

Need 1 owner for Seattle. Pm Swaggs or bsak16 if you have any interest. Site address is http://www.rwbl-ootp-online.com/ .

Chief Rum · 08-26-2006, 08:31 PM

Koji's gone?

Joe · 08-26-2006, 08:36 PM

do I need 6.51 to be in the league or is 6.12 ok?

kcchief19 · 08-26-2006, 09:17 PM

The commishes sim on 6.51, but there are quite a few owners (me included) still on 6.12.

Seattle's a good team. Koji made some deals and free agent pickups early then disappeared and hasn't exported in the offseason. I hope all is well. But he was a good owner and has a pretty solid team in place.

cuervo72 · 08-26-2006, 10:47 PM

Holy crap...is the NL East inhabited by 3yo's, or is bsak a supergenius??

graygoosetwelve · 08-26-2006, 10:56 PM

I'm interested. Currently in the BTI and played a few seasons in the Japanese Baseball League before it was abandoned. Let me know if team is still available or if I would be welcome.

kcchief19 · 08-27-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Holy crap...is the NL East inhabited by 3yo's, or is bsak a supergenius??

Little of column A, little of column B.

Schmidty · 08-27-2006, 12:48 PM

That sucks that Koji left. Another original owner bites the dust. There are only 5 of us left now.

bulletsponge · 08-27-2006, 01:07 PM

if i had OOTP6 i would sign up in a heartbeat, but i dont. i played the free ootp5 and had fun, but didnt buy the new ootp because of the massive bugginess ive heard about. ive always wanted to play in a online league, i did with CM04/05 and it was fun

Chief Rum · 08-27-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

if i had OOTP6 i would sign up in a heartbeat, but i dont. i played the free ootp5 and had fun, but didnt buy the new ootp because of the massive bugginess ive heard about. ive always wanted to play in a online league, i did with CM04/05 and it was fun

The bugginess you have heard about is largely in the single-player game, and can be limited by turning off certain features (like waivers). By and large, the RWBL doesn't run into too many game bug issues in the league, and the commissioners work hard to fairly fix any problem which arises.

Also 6.51 is a very solid final patch for the game. It's much more playable now than before.

cuervo72 · 08-27-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by graygoosetwelve

I'm interested. Currently in the BTI and played a few seasons in the Japanese Baseball League before it was abandoned. Let me know if team is still available or if I would be welcome.

The JBL folded??

bulletsponge: the FOBL never did move to v6. We *are* considering moving to 2k6 for our next season though, if player development looks like it is somewhat accept (we have a guy who looks at this and other things very closely).

Dr. Sak · 08-27-2006, 03:37 PM

Thanks for the interest everyone. We filled Seattle with the first PM i got from Rainmaker. If those others that were interested would like to be on waiting list please let me know. Thanks!

Swaggs · 01-20-2007, 02:14 PM

Bump...

The Cleveland Indians are now open, as their GM has gone MIA. We are currently in the very early stages of the offseason, so it is a good time to join. Plus, you can do battle with Schmidty (Detroit) and kcchief19 (Minny) on a day-to-day basis.

Send me a PM if you are interested.

Maple Leafs · 01-20-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Plus, you can do battle with Schmidty (Detroit) and kcchief19 (Minny) on a day-to-day basis.

No shit, kcchief joined the RWBL? When?

stevew · 01-20-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

No shit, kcchief joined the RWBL? When?

he's running my AA team, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

kcchief19 · 01-20-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

No shit, kcchief joined the RWBL? When?

May Schmidy mistake you for a kitten.

kcchief19 · 01-20-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

he's running my AA team, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

One day, I'm going to MrBug and win a World Series (legitimately) and make you guys a nice big shitburger.

Until then, I'll continue to stand here hip deep in pie. Thank you.

MrBug708 · 01-21-2007, 12:38 PM

Do not hate *shows his rent a rings*

kcchief19 · 01-21-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Do not hate *shows his rent a rings*

There's not hate here, Nequa ... er ... MrBug.

Schmidty · 01-29-2007, 10:00 PM

I'm looking for an advisor/co-owner for my team (Tigers).

I've been in the league with the same team since it started (almost 5 years), so I don't have the heart to just drop my beloved team. I want to wean myself from ownership.

If you're interested, PM me, or U2U me at the RWBL board.

Swaggs · 05-01-2007, 10:33 PM

...and, bump!

St. Louis Cardinals are open. Right now, they are pretty rock bottom, with a very small fan interest and a last place record in the NL Central. They have a core of very good, young, offensive prospects and a handful of pretty good pitching prospects. They also have a small payroll, so a new owner would have some financial flexibility.

If you are interested in a rebuild project in a league that is over 25-seasons old, send me a PM. Owners should have OOTP 6 or 6.5 and AIM (or willingness to download it). No current plans for us to move to OOTP 2007 (it is doubtful that will, at all). Sims are two game weeks at a time and are on Sun/Tues/Thurs evenings. We are currently about 60 games into the season (mid-June), so trading deadline is still about 6 weeks away.

League website is in my signature.

Maple Leafs · 05-02-2007, 08:48 AM

If you're Canadian, you could probably win a championship in this league within three years, even if you've never played OOTP.

Neuqua · 05-02-2007, 01:49 PM

RWBL: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

stevew · 10-05-2007, 01:58 PM

There is an opening for the Phillies. Interested parties should visit the forums at rwbl.net

stevew · 01-22-2008, 12:15 PM

We're under a bit of reconstruction at RWBL, as we transition from 6.5 to 2007/8. Next season(2033) will still be played under 6.5, with the movement to take effect in 2034. If anyone would be interested in checking it out, the forums can be found at www.rwbl.net. If you wish to sign up to get on the waiting list, please PM me or Swaggs, and we will add you. There's a good chance that there will be 3-4 openings soon, so hopefully there will be no wait at all.

DanGarion · 06-14-2008, 04:19 PM

Hey guys we have some openings in the RWBL again. We are now running on OOTP8. So if you are looking to join a longstanding OOTP league come visit our forums or let us know here.

http://www.rwbl.net

Cringer · 06-14-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

Hey guys we have some openings in the RWBL again. We are now running on OOTP8. So if you are looking to join a longstanding OOTP league come visit our forums or let us know here.

http://www.rwbl.net

What is the time line for moving up to OOTP 9? I don't have 8, but would love to join a 'normal' paced league along with FOOL once 9 is out.

DanGarion · 06-14-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

What is the time line for moving up to OOTP 9? I don't have 8, but would love to join a 'normal' paced league along with FOOL once 9 is out.

Here is the question, since I'm not sure. If the commish runs OOTP9 are people that use 7 and 8 going to be able to use it?

Cringer · 06-14-2008, 08:07 PM

I have no idea. Does a commish on 8 work for guys running 7? I have never done OOTP online because of the whole time restictions of being on the road, so I have no idea.

DanGarion · 06-14-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

I have no idea. Does a commish on 8 work for guys running 7? I have never done OOTP online because of the whole time restictions of being on the road, so I have no idea.

Yeah we have the commish run 8 for our league but there is an assortment of guys running 7 and 8.

Cringer · 06-14-2008, 08:14 PM

That's cool, I didn't know it would work like that. Just going off of what I know about the new game, the big change in scouting could be a problem for a league who has scouting turned on. I have no idea though.

I guess I will just hold off on finding a league until I know which ones will have 9.

05-02-2005, 04:52 PM	#4
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Surgeon General's Warning: Every person who tries to run a team in the RWBL NL East during the Phillies dynasty goes insane and disappears within two seasons. Not "disappears from the league". The dissapear from life entirely. Seriously. We've had 19 Mets owners since Labor Day. Legend is that they just snap one day and wander off, never to be seen or heard from again. Some of them become pot-addicted wannabe musicians. Some find themselves uttering phrases like "I think I would have a better chance of winning if I took over the Pirates". Some vanish in the forest to wage hand-to-hand combat against Great Red Oaks. But they all disappear. The only one who's immune is Adam, which seems to imply that you need to be Canadian to survive the horrors. I wouldn't take the job if I were you. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

05-02-2005, 05:01 PM	#6
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Dola- I would try again, but I think I've found my perfect MP league level with three FOF leagues, one OOTP league and one FBCB league. Any more than that would be asking for trouble... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-24-2006, 09:10 AM	#10
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Thread moved to General Discussion by request __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

03-24-2006, 10:22 AM	#13
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Don't forget Schmidty, Adam, INDalltheway, vtbub ... is Andy still in the league? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-24-2006, 10:27 AM	#15
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	What Jeeber said above applies to me. I would take the Mets if they were available tho. __________________ Boise Stampede Continental Football League Jacksonville Jaguars GM North American Football League Nebraska Coach FOFC-BBCF Rutgers & Washington coach Bowl Bound-BBCF

05-02-2005, 04:39 PM	#2
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Someone join so I can have some competition in my division

05-02-2005, 04:46 PM	#3
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Other than the fact that this team is in the Phillies' division, it's a great team. Swaggs is right -- it's a team you can either try to add one or two more pieces and make a playoff run for a while or go young and build for the future around Rosenthal and a couple of other nice young players. A great opportunity in a great league.

03-24-2006, 08:51 AM	#9
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Need 2 new owners. Pm Swaggs or bsak16 if you have any interest. Site address is http://www.rwbl-ootp-online.com/ .

03-24-2006, 09:23 AM	#11
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	out of curiousity, which current FOFC members are in it ?

03-24-2006, 09:41 AM	#12
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Swaggs, Bsak16, MrBug, Dangarion, KCChief, Chinaski, Chief Rum, Draft Dodger, Nequa, Maple Leafs, I'm sure a few more that I missed.

03-24-2006, 10:23 AM	#14
ScottVib High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My Computer	Which teams..

03-24-2006, 11:54 AM	#17
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Brewers are the only open team left.

08-26-2006, 01:51 PM	#19
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Need 1 owner for Seattle. Pm Swaggs or bsak16 if you have any interest. Site address is http://www.rwbl-ootp-online.com/ .

08-26-2006, 08:31 PM	#20
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Koji's gone? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-26-2006, 08:36 PM	#21
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	do I need 6.51 to be in the league or is 6.12 ok?

08-26-2006, 09:17 PM	#22
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	The commishes sim on 6.51, but there are quite a few owners (me included) still on 6.12. Seattle's a good team. Koji made some deals and free agent pickups early then disappeared and hasn't exported in the offseason. I hope all is well. But he was a good owner and has a pretty solid team in place.

08-26-2006, 10:47 PM	#23
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Holy crap...is the NL East inhabited by 3yo's, or is bsak a supergenius?? __________________ null

08-26-2006, 10:56 PM	#24
graygoosetwelve n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Michigan	I'm interested. Currently in the BTI and played a few seasons in the Japanese Baseball League before it was abandoned. Let me know if team is still available or if I would be welcome.

08-27-2006, 12:48 PM	#26
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	That sucks that Koji left. Another original owner bites the dust. There are only 5 of us left now.

08-27-2006, 01:07 PM	#27
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	if i had OOTP6 i would sign up in a heartbeat, but i dont. i played the free ootp5 and had fun, but didnt buy the new ootp because of the massive bugginess ive heard about. ive always wanted to play in a online league, i did with CM04/05 and it was fun

08-27-2006, 03:37 PM	#30
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Thanks for the interest everyone. We filled Seattle with the first PM i got from Rainmaker. If those others that were interested would like to be on waiting list please let me know. Thanks!

01-20-2007, 02:14 PM	#31
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Bump... The Cleveland Indians are now open, as their GM has gone MIA. We are currently in the very early stages of the offseason, so it is a good time to join. Plus, you can do battle with Schmidty (Detroit) and kcchief19 (Minny) on a day-to-day basis. Send me a PM if you are interested. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-21-2007, 12:38 PM	#36
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Do not hate shows his rent a rings

01-29-2007, 10:00 PM	#38
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I'm looking for an advisor/co-owner for my team (Tigers). I've been in the league with the same team since it started (almost 5 years), so I don't have the heart to just drop my beloved team. I want to wean myself from ownership. If you're interested, PM me, or U2U me at the RWBL board.

05-01-2007, 10:33 PM	#39
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	...and, bump! St. Louis Cardinals are open. Right now, they are pretty rock bottom, with a very small fan interest and a last place record in the NL Central. They have a core of very good, young, offensive prospects and a handful of pretty good pitching prospects. They also have a small payroll, so a new owner would have some financial flexibility. If you are interested in a rebuild project in a league that is over 25-seasons old, send me a PM. Owners should have OOTP 6 or 6.5 and AIM (or willingness to download it). No current plans for us to move to OOTP 2007 (it is doubtful that will, at all). Sims are two game weeks at a time and are on Sun/Tues/Thurs evenings. We are currently about 60 games into the season (mid-June), so trading deadline is still about 6 weeks away. League website is in my signature. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

05-02-2007, 08:48 AM	#40
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	If you're Canadian, you could probably win a championship in this league within three years, even if you've never played OOTP. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

05-02-2007, 01:49 PM	#41
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	RWBL: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

10-05-2007, 01:58 PM	#42
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	There is an opening for the Phillies. Interested parties should visit the forums at rwbl.net

01-22-2008, 12:15 PM	#43
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	We're under a bit of reconstruction at RWBL, as we transition from 6.5 to 2007/8. Next season(2033) will still be played under 6.5, with the movement to take effect in 2034. If anyone would be interested in checking it out, the forums can be found at www.rwbl.net. If you wish to sign up to get on the waiting list, please PM me or Swaggs, and we will add you. There's a good chance that there will be 3-4 openings soon, so hopefully there will be no wait at all.

06-14-2008, 04:19 PM	#44
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	Hey guys we have some openings in the RWBL again. We are now running on OOTP8. So if you are looking to join a longstanding OOTP league come visit our forums or let us know here. http://www.rwbl.net __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

06-14-2008, 08:07 PM	#47
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I have no idea. Does a commish on 8 work for guys running 7? I have never done OOTP online because of the whole time restictions of being on the road, so I have no idea. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

06-14-2008, 08:14 PM	#49
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	That's cool, I didn't know it would work like that. Just going off of what I know about the new game, the big change in scouting could be a problem for a league who has scouting turned on. I have no idea though. I guess I will just hold off on finding a league until I know which ones will have 9. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

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