Dan Snyder is an Idiot

Bisbo · 01-24-2008, 08:10 AM

He's at it again. Just as this Redskin team is starting to get the hang of Al Saunders' complicated offense, and the defense has come together again under Gregg Williams, and the team has a real sense of cohesion and unity after Sean Taylor's death, the boy genius is about to tear it all apart again by hiring Jim Fassel. Snyder should just stick to doing what he knows best - business (well, maybe he doesn't know much there either, as Six Flags' stock plummeted after he took control of the company). The Redskins will never - NEVER - succeed until Snyder realizes he is just a rich little fan-boy who is in way over his head, and hires a real football GM to run the operation. As a long term Redskins fan, it just kills me to see the harm he has wreaked on this once-proud organization. I sure hope the press has it wrong about Fassel, but I doubt it.

wade moore · 01-24-2008, 08:11 AM

I think signing Fassel would be a terrible move - I'm really hoping it doesn't happen.

SteveMax58 · 01-24-2008, 08:13 AM

As a Giants fan I will just say I am glad to see the Redskins hire Fassel.

rkmsuf · 01-24-2008, 08:17 AM

don't kid yourself and think the redskins are going anywhere with greg williams and al saunders

Toddzilla · 01-24-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

don't kid yourself and think the redskins are going anywhere with greg williams and al saunders

+1

Seriously, Greg Williams = Al Saunders = Jim Fassell = Shite.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Subby · 01-24-2008, 09:09 AM

f u haterz

Subby · 01-24-2008, 09:11 AM

Seriously - who gives a shit who is coaching the team? As long as you have Snyder and Cerrato running the front office, we (the fans, yo) will never see another championship. This is the same fucking braintrust that tried to build through RESTRICTED free agency a few years back. Hey...good move there!

Anthony · 01-24-2008, 09:21 AM

Fassel isn't so bad. how many coaches currently employed have taken their teams to the Super Bowl and are 2-time coaches of the year? seriously.

look at the complete garbage Atlanta had to hire to be their coach. *i* was about 2 rejections away from being called in for an interview.

rkmsuf · 01-24-2008, 09:35 AM

Loved that Smith guy in Atlanta. "We want to win by running the ball and stopping the run."

Go for it. Fuck passing.

Anthony · 01-24-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Loved that Smith guy in Atlanta. "We want to win by running the ball and stopping the run."

Go for it. Fuck passing.

worked for Vick.

Subby · 01-24-2008, 09:43 AM

Not sure the Falcons could have come up with a less inspiring hire.

Anthony · 01-24-2008, 09:54 AM

they didn't have a choice. when you get turned down for the prom by the two prettiest girls in high school, if you really wanna go to it the next person you ask better be the chubby bookworm chick.

Anthony · 01-24-2008, 09:56 AM

just saying, if you really wanted to rally the troops, Billick and Schottenheimer were waiting by their phone.

larrymcg421 · 01-24-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

just saying, if you really wanted to rally the troops, Billick and Schottenheimer were waiting by their phone.

Yes, but unfortunately for the Falcons, I'm sure they both have caller ID.

ISiddiqui · 01-24-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Loved that Smith guy in Atlanta. "We want to win by running the ball and stopping the run."

Go for it. Fuck passing.

Worked for Jacksonville this year.

This may indicate that if the Falcons win the toss for #3, they're going McFadden.

rkmsuf · 01-24-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Worked for Jacksonville this year.

This may indicate that if the Falcons win the toss for #3, they're going McFadden.

No it didn't.

ISiddiqui · 01-24-2008, 10:39 AM

I think going 11-5 in the AFC (2nd in rushing, 11th against the rush, btw) showed that it worked this year for Jacksonville

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rkmsuf · 01-24-2008, 10:44 AM

as long as jax continues to play they way they do, they ensure this season is about their top

no offensive punch at all. great runners though except in the biggest game of the year that is.

ISiddiqui · 01-24-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

as long as jax continues to play they way they do, they ensure this season is about their top

no offensive punch at all. great runners though except in the biggest game of the year that is.

11-5 and in the playoffs.. wow, what a horrible year and stuff. It ain't like they got blown out by New England either.

How about another example, 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers, 5th rushing, 3rd against the run. 24th passing (and last in passing attempts). If you recall, they won their SuperBowl. And I think Maurice Jones-Drew has the same amount of "punch" as Fast Willie Parker did that year. Sure the Steelers had Hines Ward, but Jacksonville had more passing yards this year than Pittsburgh did in 2005.

rkmsuf · 01-24-2008, 10:57 AM

would love to see a jax/atlanta superbowl

could have the game in buffalo

Pumpy Tudors · 01-24-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Yes, but unfortunately for the Falcons, I'm sure they both have caller ID.

LOL

SteveMax58 · 01-24-2008, 01:56 PM

I'm just glad Atlanta will not be taking Spagnoulo away from the Giants. We have finally found a good replacement for John Fox, and I would hate to start over next year with a new D-Coordinator...again.

ISiddiqui · 01-24-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMax58

I'm just glad Atlanta will not be taking Spagnoulo away from the Giants. We have finally found a good replacement for John Fox, and I would hate to start over next year with a new D-Coordinator...again.

Don't worry, apparently Washington hasn't decided on Fassel and is going to wait to interview Spagnoulo, liking his NFC East experience. So I'm sure they'll screw you and select him

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sabotai · 01-24-2008, 03:16 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Spags, only 1 year removed from being a positions coach, is no where near ready to be a head coach.

Fighter of Foo · 01-24-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Not sure the Falcons could have come up with a less inspiring hire.

We landed someone who:

a) Is a competent NFL coach
b) Actually wants to be here

This is progress.

SteveMax58 · 01-24-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Spags, only 1 year removed from being a positions coach, is no where near ready to be a head coach.

I dont know if that seems to matter any more...John Harbaugh is a head coach without even being a coordinator at any level of football. And it seems owners are getting more & more desperate to try "something new" every year.

Cringer · 01-24-2008, 06:16 PM

I won't rip a coach before he shows if he can do anything or not now. I hated the Mike McCarthy hiring when the Packers brought him in. I wanted Ted Thompson's head. He was an OC for a crap 49er team for one year, and before that he was the OC of the juggernaut Saints. Wasn't very impressive.

I love the guy now, and think Ted Thompson deserves the job of Packer GM more then I do.

sabotai · 01-24-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMax58

I dont know if that seems to matter any more...John Harbaugh is a head coach without even being a coordinator at any level of football. And it seems owners are getting more & more desperate to try "something new" every year.

That's true, but I question how much Harbaugh is ready for a head coaching job as well (or if he's going to do well at all regardless of how ready he is). I know Mike Tomlin has done well so far for the Steelers after just 1 year as a coordinator, but I think he's more the exception than the rule.

But then again, I don't keep track of coaching careers. Maybe more people are fast tracked to head coaching positions than I realize.

terpkristin · 01-24-2008, 09:03 PM

Dan Snyder is the only team owner out there "stupider" than Peter Angelos. Not that I think Angelos is all that dumb, exactly, but he makes a lot of moves that really don't seem to make his team any better, and there WAS a period of time where he was deliberately sabotaging the team.

And, lucky Baltimore/DC sports fans, both owners are in this area. While the O's and the 'Skins aren't my "favorite" team in either sport, I do cheer for the home team as long as they're not playing the Red Sox or Pats, so it's disappointing to see teams under such lousy ownership..

/tk

Subby · 01-25-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

We landed someone who:

a) Is a competent NFL coach
b) Actually wants to be here

This is progress.

And the uninspiring hires usually turn out pretty good in a lot of cases. I would actually be fairly excited if I was a Falcons fan right now. You get a no-nonsense football guy in there and personnel guy from the pioli-belichick tree. Not too shabby.

chesapeake · 01-25-2008, 12:24 PM

The Danny likes to make the Big Splash with his head coach hires -- Marty, Spurrier, and Gibbs being the three he's done to date. I don't think that either Williams or Fassel were big enough for him. My money says that the Danny wants Cowher. If there is any amount of money that would get him to Redskins Park, TD will pay it.

Despite my mockery of him, I don't think the Danny is Angelosian by any stretch of the imagination. By most accounts Angelos is cheap, mean and refuses to listen or learn. TD has a massive ego, but no one can accuse him of being cheap and I do believe that he listens to people that he trusts, Gibbs being one of them. The jury is still out on whether he learns from his mistakes.

Bisbo · 01-25-2008, 12:35 PM

I didn't know Vinny Cerrato's screen name was "Chesapeake".

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-26-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Spags, only 1 year removed from being a positions coach, is no where near ready to be a head coach.

Hiring position coaches is a smart move. Ask Millen.

terpkristin · 01-26-2008, 04:53 PM

No mention of the fact that Gregg Williams and Al Saunders have been "released"?

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=34038

/tk

Cringer · 01-26-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

The Danny likes to make the Big Splash with his head coach hires -- Marty, Spurrier, and Gibbs being the three he's done to date. I don't think that either Williams or Fassel were big enough for him. My money says that the Danny wants Cowher. If there is any amount of money that would get him to Redskins Park, TD will pay it.

Despite my mockery of him, I don't think the Danny is Angelosian by any stretch of the imagination. By most accounts Angelos is cheap, mean and refuses to listen or learn. TD has a massive ego, but no one can accuse him of being cheap and I do believe that he listens to people that he trusts, Gibbs being one of them. The jury is still out on whether he learns from his mistakes.

Gibbs isn't advising him well then if he listens to Gibbs. I find it hard to believe Gibbs would support how he is handling these things.

BTW, anyone think they have a possible "secret" deal with a coach who is on a Superbowl team? That is a rumor I have heard floated around, and why no head coach has been hired.

Cringer · 01-26-2008, 10:00 PM

Dola- Maybe The Danny is going to name himself as head coach. I think he should do that, just to out do Al Davis as an ass.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

Gibbs isn't advising him well then if he listens to Gibbs. I find it hard to believe Gibbs would support how he is handling these things.

BTW, anyone think they have a possible "secret" deal with a coach who is on a Superbowl team? That is a rumor I have heard floated around, and why no head coach has been hired.

what coach? be more specific

Cringer · 01-26-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

what coach? be more specific

It was a Patriot coach I think, I don't remember the guy's name though. Seemed a little bit of a stretch to me, but an interesting theory.

14ers · 01-27-2008, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

The Danny likes to make the Big Splash with his head coach hires -- Marty, Spurrier, and Gibbs being the three he's done to date. I don't think that either Williams or Fassel were big enough for him. My money says that the Danny wants Cowher. If there is any amount of money that would get him to Redskins Park, TD will pay it.

What about HBO star and local Maryland boy Brian Billick?

Bisbo · 01-27-2008, 06:56 AM

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It was a Patriot coach I think, I don't remember the guy's name though.

The guy that's been mentioned is Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator, but that doesn't sound splashy enough for Danny Boy. Whoever it is, he's going to have to accept the offensive and defensive coordinators that have already been hired - what a half-assed way to run a team.

SteveMax58 · 01-27-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisbo

The guy that's been mentioned is Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator, but that doesn't sound splashy enough for Danny Boy. Whoever it is, he's going to have to accept the offensive and defensive coordinators that have already been hired - what a half-assed way to run a team.

Yeah...I found that to be completely ridiculous. Unless of course, there is a "mystery" coach orchestrating those moves. Unlikely, but it's the only way I see DS getting anybody with name recognition to coach this team. Most big-splash candidates would expect, at a minimum, to name their own coaching staff. This is definitley strange.

01-24-2008, 08:17 AM	#4
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	don't kid yourself and think the redskins are going anywhere with greg williams and al saunders __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

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01-24-2008, 09:11 AM	#7
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Seriously - who gives a shit who is coaching the team? As long as you have Snyder and Cerrato running the front office, we (the fans, yo) will never see another championship. This is the same fucking braintrust that tried to build through RESTRICTED free agency a few years back. Hey...good move there! __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com Last edited by Subby : 01-24-2008 at 09:13 AM.

01-24-2008, 09:35 AM	#9
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Loved that Smith guy in Atlanta. "We want to win by running the ball and stopping the run." Go for it. Fuck passing. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-24-2008, 09:43 AM	#11
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Not sure the Falcons could have come up with a less inspiring hire. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

01-24-2008, 08:13 AM	#3
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	As a Giants fan I will just say I am glad to see the Redskins hire Fassel.

01-24-2008, 09:21 AM	#8
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	Fassel isn't so bad. how many coaches currently employed have taken their teams to the Super Bowl and are 2-time coaches of the year? seriously. look at the complete garbage Atlanta had to hire to be their coach. i was about 2 rejections away from being called in for an interview.

01-24-2008, 09:54 AM	#12
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	they didn't have a choice. when you get turned down for the prom by the two prettiest girls in high school, if you really wanna go to it the next person you ask better be the chubby bookworm chick.

01-24-2008, 09:56 AM	#13
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	just saying, if you really wanted to rally the troops, Billick and Schottenheimer were waiting by their phone.

01-24-2008, 10:39 AM	#17
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think going 11-5 in the AFC (2nd in rushing, 11th against the rush, btw) showed that it worked this year for Jacksonville . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-24-2008, 10:44 AM	#18
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	as long as jax continues to play they way they do, they ensure this season is about their top no offensive punch at all. great runners though except in the biggest game of the year that is. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-24-2008, 10:57 AM	#20
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	would love to see a jax/atlanta superbowl could have the game in buffalo __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-24-2008, 01:56 PM	#22
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	I'm just glad Atlanta will not be taking Spagnoulo away from the Giants. We have finally found a good replacement for John Fox, and I would hate to start over next year with a new D-Coordinator...again.

01-24-2008, 03:16 PM	#24
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Spags, only 1 year removed from being a positions coach, is no where near ready to be a head coach.

01-24-2008, 06:16 PM	#27
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I won't rip a coach before he shows if he can do anything or not now. I hated the Mike McCarthy hiring when the Packers brought him in. I wanted Ted Thompson's head. He was an OC for a crap 49er team for one year, and before that he was the OC of the juggernaut Saints. Wasn't very impressive. I love the guy now, and think Ted Thompson deserves the job of Packer GM more then I do. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

01-24-2008, 09:03 PM	#29
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Dan Snyder is the only team owner out there "stupider" than Peter Angelos. Not that I think Angelos is all that dumb, exactly, but he makes a lot of moves that really don't seem to make his team any better, and there WAS a period of time where he was deliberately sabotaging the team. And, lucky Baltimore/DC sports fans, both owners are in this area. While the O's and the 'Skins aren't my "favorite" team in either sport, I do cheer for the home team as long as they're not playing the Red Sox or Pats, so it's disappointing to see teams under such lousy ownership.. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

01-25-2008, 12:24 PM	#31
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	The Danny likes to make the Big Splash with his head coach hires -- Marty, Spurrier, and Gibbs being the three he's done to date. I don't think that either Williams or Fassel were big enough for him. My money says that the Danny wants Cowher. If there is any amount of money that would get him to Redskins Park, TD will pay it. Despite my mockery of him, I don't think the Danny is Angelosian by any stretch of the imagination. By most accounts Angelos is cheap, mean and refuses to listen or learn. TD has a massive ego, but no one can accuse him of being cheap and I do believe that he listens to people that he trusts, Gibbs being one of them. The jury is still out on whether he learns from his mistakes.

01-25-2008, 12:35 PM	#32
Bisbo H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Mar 2006	I didn't know Vinny Cerrato's screen name was "Chesapeake".

01-26-2008, 04:53 PM	#34
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	No mention of the fact that Gregg Williams and Al Saunders have been "released"? http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=34038 /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

01-26-2008, 10:00 PM	#36
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Dola- Maybe The Danny is going to name himself as head coach. I think he should do that, just to out do Al Davis as an ass. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

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