If you had the top overall pick, would you take....? (Herman Moore)

Abe Sargent · 01-07-2008, 06:24 PM

Last one for today, then I move into some more tomorrow. This one I think is more compelling.

Again, you have to pick, and you have the top overall pick. You know that this particular player will have the career he doe,s the others are just normal rookies. We did QB and RB, time for another position, but I upped the skill level a bit to see if you are tempted. Here we go:

Would you take Herman Moore as a rookie, knowing what he'd do?

Would you take the random top overall rookie?

SteveMax58 · 01-07-2008, 06:35 PM

This one is a tougher choice.

While I would normally say WR is not worthy of a 1-1 pick, since a WR does not directly change a franchise without an adequate O-Line & QB...the difference is that I KNOW Herman Moore will be a top-tier WR for 6-7 seasons. That guarantee is the only reason I say yes. I then try to improve the other positions through the rest of the draft & FA.

						Receiving							Rushing
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	G	GS	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Att	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	YScm	RRTD	Fmb
1991	22	DET		13	1	11	135	12.3	0	21	0.8	10.4								135	0	0
1992	23	DET	WR	12	11	51	966	18.9	4	77	4.3	80.5								966	4	0
1993	24	DET	WR	15	15	61	935	15.3	6	93	4.1	62.3								935	6	2
1994*	25	DET	WR	16	16	72	1173	16.3	11	51	4.5	73.3								1173	11	1
1995*+	26	DET	WR	16	16	123	1686	13.7	14	69	7.7	105.4								1686	14	2
1996*+	27	DET	WR	16	16	106	1296	12.2	9	50	6.6	81.0								1296	9	0
1997*+	28	DET	WR	16	16	104	1293	12.4	8	79	6.5	80.8								1293	8	0
1998	29	DET	WR	15	15	82	983	12.0	5	36	5.5	65.5								983	5	0
1999	30	DET		8	4	16	197	12.3	2	26	2.0	24.6								197	2	0
2000	31	DET	WR	15	12	40	434	10.9	3	30	2.7	28.9								434	3	0
2001	32	DET		3	1	4	76	19.0	0	25	1.3	25.3								76	0	0
2002	33	NYG		1	0	0	0		0	0	0.0	0.0								0	0	0
Career				146	123	670	9174	13.7	62	93	4.6	62.8								9174	62	5

Jas_lov · 01-07-2008, 06:35 PM

I would roll the dice and take Brett Favre instead.

bhlloy · 01-07-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I would roll the dice and take Brett Favre instead.

You are a moron. What part of you this exercise don't you understand?

Moore is a bit closer than the others, but I'm still going to say no. 3 years of excellent production and 3-4 other average years at the WR position doesn't equal what I'm looking for at the number 1 pick, especially given the salary I am going to have to pay him. Keep going

Balldog · 01-07-2008, 06:48 PM

I'd say take him. Plus I like him in All-Pro Football, that size is a great asset.

korme · 01-07-2008, 07:05 PM

Now we're talking... Herman Moore was a monster!

Passacaglia · 01-07-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I would roll the dice and take Brett Favre instead.

Or Shawn Moore.

Abe Sargent · 01-08-2008, 08:49 AM

I would like to get some more votes on Herman Moore, since he seems closer in numbers.

Anthony · 01-08-2008, 08:53 AM

a couple 100+ catch seasons and great size? who knows what he coulda done had he had a real QB other than Scottie Mitchell throwing to him. sign me up.

Daimyo · 01-08-2008, 09:04 AM

This is a tough one, but in the end I'm just not sure if any WR is worth the #1 overall pick let alone one who is just "very good".

jbergey22 · 01-08-2008, 11:04 AM

This is a very tough choice. I am going to take my chances on the #1 pick however because I am smarter than most NFL Gms and would be able to draft better

Abe Sargent · 01-08-2008, 11:24 AM

This is right at 50/50, I love it!

miked · 01-08-2008, 11:43 AM

I don't know, WRs are such a crapshoot. I'm looking over the top 50 WRs in the NFL (yardage/recpts) and over half of them aren't 1st rounders. So while I wouldn't be unhappy with Herman Moore (7 straight seasons at 900+ yds) I think I might be just as likely to have a productive WR in the later rounds.

JAG · 01-08-2008, 12:16 PM

I always thought Moore was a pretty good player, but I don't know if I would consider him dominant enough to not take a #1 overall pick, even with the risk of busting, especially since my team has needs everywhere. I would take 1.1 instead.

TazFTW · 01-08-2008, 01:46 PM

Draft him, sign him to a 6 year deal and then deal him for picks after his 123 for 1686 season.

rkmsuf · 01-08-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Draft him, sign him to a 6 year deal and then deal him for picks after his 123 for 1686 season.

I don't think that's allowed. Although these rules are pretty complex.

Fidatelo · 01-08-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Draft him, sign him to a 6 year deal and then deal him for picks after his 123 for 1686 season.

Why would anyone want to trade picks for a guy that just hit .073?

Pumpy Tudors · 01-08-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

Why would anyone want to trade picks for a guy that just hit .073?

Herman Moore is Spike Owen, isn't he?

View Poll Results: Moore or Random?
Take Herman Moore with the Top Overall Pick (As a rookie)	26	52.00%
Roll the Dice with the top rated random rookie	24	48.00%
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01-08-2008, 08:49 AM	#8
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I would like to get some more votes on Herman Moore, since he seems closer in numbers. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-08-2008, 11:24 AM	#12
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	This is right at 50/50, I love it! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-08-2008, 11:43 AM	#13
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I don't know, WRs are such a crapshoot. I'm looking over the top 50 WRs in the NFL (yardage/recpts) and over half of them aren't 1st rounders. So while I wouldn't be unhappy with Herman Moore (7 straight seasons at 900+ yds) I think I might be just as likely to have a productive WR in the later rounds. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

01-08-2008, 01:46 PM	#15
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Draft him, sign him to a 6 year deal and then deal him for picks after his 123 for 1686 season. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

01-07-2008, 06:35 PM	#3
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I would roll the dice and take Brett Favre instead.

01-07-2008, 06:48 PM	#5
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	I'd say take him. Plus I like him in All-Pro Football, that size is a great asset.

01-07-2008, 07:05 PM	#6
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Now we're talking... Herman Moore was a monster!

01-08-2008, 08:53 AM	#9
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	a couple 100+ catch seasons and great size? who knows what he coulda done had he had a real QB other than Scottie Mitchell throwing to him. sign me up.

01-08-2008, 09:04 AM	#10
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	This is a tough one, but in the end I'm just not sure if any WR is worth the #1 overall pick let alone one who is just "very good".

01-08-2008, 11:04 AM	#11
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	This is a very tough choice. I am going to take my chances on the #1 pick however because I am smarter than most NFL Gms and would be able to draft better

01-08-2008, 12:16 PM	#14
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I always thought Moore was a pretty good player, but I don't know if I would consider him dominant enough to not take a #1 overall pick, even with the risk of busting, especially since my team has needs everywhere. I would take 1.1 instead.

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