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Old 07-07-2007, 09:27 AM   #1
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Al Gore Full of Hot Air; Earth was Much Warmer




Scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record said Thursday the planet was far warmer hundreds of thousands of years ago than is generally believed.
DNA of trees, plants and insects including butterflies and spiders from beneath the southern Greenland glacier was estimated to date to 450,000 to 900,000 years ago, according to the remnants retrieved from this long-vanished boreal forest.

That contrasts sharply with the prevailing view that a lush forest of this kind could only have existed in Greenland as recently as 2.4 million years ago, according to a summary of the study, which is published Thursday in the journal Science.

The samples suggest the temperature probably reached 10 degrees C (50 degrees Fahrenheit) in the summer and -17 C (1 F) in the winter.

They also indicated that during the last period between ice ages, 116,000-130,000 years ago, when temperatures were on average 5 C (9 F) higher than now, the glaciers on Greenland did not completely melt away.

"These findings allow us to make a more accurate environmental reconstruction of the time period from which these samples were taken," said Martin Sharp, a glaciologist at the University of Alberta, Canada, and a co-author of the paper.


"What we've learned is that this part of the world was significantly warmer than most people thought."

In a separate paper, also published in Science, European experts said they had analysed the world's deepest ice core, enabling them to reconstruct patterns of warming and glaciation over the past 800,000 years.

The 3,260-metre (10,595-feet) core was drilled into the East Antarctica icesheet at the Franco-Italian base, Dome C. The drillers, gathered in a venture called the European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica (EPICA) stopped just 15 metres (48.75 feet) short of the bedrock.

Using traces of the hydrogen isotope deuterium in air bubbles trapped in the ice layers, the scientists built a record of greenhouse-gas concentrations over the aeons, which in turn provides a record of temperature.

They found the temperature varied widely, by as much as 15 C (27 F) over the 800,000 years. In the last Ice Age, which ended around 11,000 years ago, the temperature was 10 C (18 F) lower than today.

The EPICA team had previously analysed the Dome C core to a depth equivalent to 650,000 years ago.

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Old 07-07-2007, 09:54 AM   #2
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Come on, get real.

If Gore could really breathe fire he would be President. Shrub's alcohol sodden body would have gone up in smoke at one of their first debates.

You made this up.



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Old 07-07-2007, 10:20 AM   #3
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Wait a minute -- are you saying Greenland didn't always have glaciers?
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:21 AM   #4
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:38 AM   #5
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I hate the environment. When I had a car, I used to start it up and let it run just to burn gas and allow the sweet aroma of exhaust fumes to fill the air!

Al Gore invented global warming!
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:11 AM   #6
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I think global warming is being caused by all the stuff being pumped through the internet tubes. We didn't have any trouble before the internet was invented.
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:12 AM   #7
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I blame global warming.
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:18 AM   #8
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I think global warming caused this thread.
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:41 PM   #9
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What is the over under on Global Warming posts on the forum's front page?
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:17 PM   #10
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Iceland is nice, it is Greenland that is covered in ice.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:18 PM   #11
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Dola ..

Let's talk about something that is real..

Anyone seen ManBearPig lately?
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:23 PM   #12
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Iceland is nice, it is Greenland that is covered in ice.

Yes, but Greenland sounds so much nicer then Iceland.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:54 PM   #13
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Dola ..

Let's talk about something that is real..

Anyone seen ManBearPig lately?

he went exstinct. his natural habitat got too warm and he died off
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:43 PM   #14
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:44 PM   #15
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:16 PM   #16
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:45 AM   #17
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:52 AM   #18
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What the hell was Gore doing in that picture, anyway? I can't recall him being that jacked up about ANYTHING in his life. Was he mimicking the Howard Dean thing, or what?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:55 AM   #19
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What the hell was Gore doing in that picture, anyway? I can't recall him being that jacked up about ANYTHING in his life. Was he mimicking the Howard Dean thing, or what?

I've actually heard several times in the last few years that Gore as a speaker post-Presidential race is very charismatic. I've heard that he is energetic, funny, easy to like, etc, etc... if he would have been like that during the 2000 race, he might be president right now.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:02 AM   #20
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I agree with Wade. Thank goodness he was still a robot back then. I remember his "okay, I'm done fighting the Florida election results like a little bitch, let's move on" speech, and remarking to my wife, "That's the most presidential he's ever looked. Thank God he wasn't like that during the campaign!"
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