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Damn is right. These teams dodged a huge bullet. I guess it's still okay to mess with referees given that these penalties aren't too severe. Who cares about the integrity of the game?
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I love the statement by Juve's chairman: hxxp://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=374399&cc=5739 It basically comes across as, "If you don't let us back into Serie A, we're going to start stamping our feet. If that doesn't work, we're going to hold our breath until our faces turn blue." Last edited by Ajaxab : 07-25-2006 at 03:57 PM. |
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That is bullshit.
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watch, the next level of appeals will knock it down some more.
The end of it will be four slaps on the wrist, and an official Parliment message of thanks about their tactics preparing Italy for the World Cup
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07-25-2006, 04:46 PM | #206 |
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised. It is Italy after all.
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Interesting. I'm glad Juve's penalty was reduced some, and I hope they'll be able to bounce back up next year, but Milan being allowed into the Champions League is a complete joke. Taking away the CL money was the real punishment. With this decision, Milan got away scot-free. Color me shocked.
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I have no idea what those two squads have done in terms of bringing players in, but they could be screwed financially as well, especially if they've been bringing in/keeping players with wage levels you would find in Serie A. |
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Report is that Milan is now the 4th team in for the CL. So qualifiers. Also Juve is going to sue in civil court to remain in Serie A. Everyone knew it was coming, but what a joke. I'm sure Juve will get even more lenient treatment on their appeal, probably ending up back in Serie A. You try and fix matches and then get a slap on the wrist. |
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Ok, so looking into a bit further it appears that the evidence against Lazio and Fiorentina was pretty light to start with. Especially Lazio. Milan and Juve handling is ridiculous though.
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It does look that way now, yes. I think Juve were the only ones who had completely indefensible evidence against them. The rest weren't exactly innocent, but pretty clearly not on the same level. I don't have a problem with Fiorentina or Lazio's current punishment, and I could live with Milan's if it weren't for the CL reinstatement. |
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What looks odd to me is that Lazio and Fiorentina (especially) were buying up Serie A level players weeks before the verdict. I think the whole thing has become a sham. I think Milan's control of the media covered up their role. Really it should have been Milan to B and Juve to C in an impartial world.
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Nice goal by the Crew.
Shame that Everton didn't start Howard.
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Can UEFA even do anything about it? I was under the impression that it's up to the FA of the said country to determine who appears in which tourney. Wasn't that one of the things last year when Liverpool wasn't going to get in the CL despite winning the year before? So if the Italian FA says Milan is in, then they're in. Of course, I'm sure if UEFA really wanted to, they could keep Milan out, but I don't see that ever happening. |
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UEFA are considering Milan's position later today. They could ban Milan themselves and either insist on another Italian club or give the spot to a team from another national league. It would be ironic, and deserved, if they took the second option and Italy lost a spot because of this.
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Having just read the article on soccernet about Milan in the Champions League, I see that their is precedent for UEFA to kick Milan out (Marseille back in the early '90s). I really hope they do. It will make the pain of having Juve in Serie B a little more bearable.
Oh, and congrats to Inter for finally being able to "win" the scudetto. |
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Comprehensive Summary of the Italy Investigation:
Very informative read http://blogs.foxsports.com/BobbyMcMahon/2006/07/26/The_Italian_Scandal_can_we_debate_the_facts_as_best_we_can_please2 |
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That's a pretty good summary.
How does Franco Carraro, ex-FA head, get off with only a 80,000 euro fine? |
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Manchester United have signed Michael Carrick from Spurs for 17mil pounds, according to Setanta.
Seems like a lot of cash for a defensive midfielder who can't tackle Serious downgrade from the Vieira or Gattuso rumors. |
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Some good news for MLS fans, apparently Fox Soccer Channel has finally agreed to a deal with MLS, so starting this weekend, you will see a MLS game of the week on FSC again.
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Now official, Ruud van Nistelrooij from Manchester United to Real Madrid.
I suppose that means Raul is going back to midfield duties then.
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Be great if I didn't have to pay an extra $10 a month for it. As it is, not great news. |
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Oh.. DirecTV has it and GolTV for free as part of the Sports Pack
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Comcast has it as part of their "sports pack" too, but it would have been the only channel worth watching on the whole deal, and it is an extra $10 a month. Not worth it. |
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For a nice 15 mil Euro. First step to paying back that 660 mil pounds they owe .
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$10 a month? Wow... I can't believe it is that different in Covington. It's $5/month in Roswell and the Sports Pack has FSC, GolTV, FS Atlantic, Central, and Pacific, plus a few others around here.
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Not if they turn around and spend 25mil Euro on Carrick |
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Yeah, I just saw that post of yours! What in the WORLD are ManU thinking?! 17 mil pounds is more than Owen's price last year wasn't it? Now, Owen's been injured all over the place afterwards (couldn't have predicted that, really), but its utter insanity to think Carrick was bought for more than Owen was!
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No word on the fee yet for Ruud. Infact, Man Utd haven't even confirmed it yet and Nistelrooy's agent is not speaking to the media about it. The only confirmation so far of any kind is that it has been put up on the Real website. And all this considering just yesterday Ferguson said that even though Real had marginally improved their offer, they were still well off their valuation and nothing had changed. So, colour me skeptical at this point.
Also I can't find anything anywhere on the Carrick thing, although Man U are definitley interested in him and had made a bid before of £10m which was turned down. Fwiw, Owen went to Real Madrid for £12m and left for Newcastle for £18m. |
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My understanding is that the real sticking point was Madrid's wish to pay the fee over time with appearance fees etc defining the final price whereas Utd wanted cash up front. Assuming that's what they have then I suspect that this will now bring on the Carrick deal.
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It's on the front page of the Setanta website, they're claiming it as an exclusive. They're the only ones reporting it at the moment, but they do carry MUTV so it should be from a good source. |
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IMO there much more good strikers than good defensive midfielders so it seems normal to pay more for that kind of players. But true, the real insanity is to consider Carrick a top notch DM. |
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I sure hope Saha can stay healthy, i don't have a problem with Carrick he isn't Keane, but i like him as a player.
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Indeed... we are not talking about Makalele or Gattuso here. Carrick isn't even a holding midfielder. He's a deep lying playmaker.
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More good news on the televised soccer front. GolTV has picked up some German soccer, starting with the Liga Pokal tomorrow morning. Hamburg v Hertha at 9.30 then Shalke v Leverkusen at 12-ish.
It's like the start of the season for me, even if the Liga Pokal is a fairly laidback, unimportant compitition. |
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I'm sure Liverpool fans are pumped about that Champions League qualifying draw....
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So, uhhh, Carrick and Pennant went for how much? Yikes. AND gadzooks. No wonder we can't afford any Englishmen on our club. 10 large for Mr Davies? Hey, no thanks. That said, I think Carrick is a very good player who will be in a great situation -- and I think ManU are looking better day-by-day -- and Pennant has the ability to be one. But the very idea of Pennant, Bellamy and Fowler on the same squad makes me giggle. Like a schoolgirl.
On the other hand, dagnabbit, it'd be nice to see us come up with a solid 23-25 year central defender -- seriously, I'd dig us taking a flyer on Onyewu -- who has had some first team experience so I don't have to tear my hair out with the concept of "Central Defender, Pascal Cygan". I mean, y'all cannot possibly imagine how much the concept of the Cybot wearing #6 in these friendlies gives us ulcers. Or gas. More ulcer than gas, though. Mostly. |
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So UEFA has postponed any decision on Milan and allowed them a provisional place in the third qualifying stage. With the decision to come down 2 Aug and the third stage starting that next week, if they do kick Milan out (not holding my breath), what's going to happen? Does UEFA pull in someone else to qualify, or does Milan's opponent get an automatic pass?
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So long that my tivo stopped recording before they finished. |
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