Indiana Hoosiers- 05'-'06...

hoosiergoody · 12-08-2005, 03:04 PM

Anyone else annoyed that a college basketball team can look so good against a #1 team (overall) and yet so bad against an unranked opponent?

I am really trying to be optimistic about this year's team, but there are so many little things that aren't being done. Can someone define "help-side defense"? Do other teams give up as many uncontested layups?

When DJ White returns IU will be an even better offensive team, especially in the post. But DJ doesn't know defense at times either...

Can we finally beat Kentucky? If we do that, is it considered a successful season?

spleen1015 · 12-08-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hoosiergoody

Anyone else annoyed that a college basketball team can look so good against a #1 team (overall) and yet so bad against an unranked opponent?

It is called "Mike Davis sucks".

dubb93 · 12-08-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hoosiergoody

Anyone else annoyed that a college basketball team can look so good against a #1 team (overall) and yet so bad against an unranked opponent?

I am really trying to be optimistic about this year's team, but there are so many little things that aren't being done. Can someone define "help-side defense"? Do other teams give up as many uncontested layups?

When DJ White returns IU will be an even better offensive team, especially in the post. But DJ doesn't know defense at times either...

Can we finally beat Kentucky? If we do that, is it considered a successful season?

The problem this year is the same problem we had last year...coaching. I know Davis is an easy target but it is the truth.

His teams just won't run an offense. The guards like to run the floor uncontrolled and either:

A turn the ball over or

B throw up an uncontrolled shot

If I can notice it, a D1 coach should be able to see it. He just can't coach a team to run an offense. If it was me coaching these guys, they would run my offense or they would run Assembly Hall for hours on end. The talent is there this season, but as is DJ White won't make a difference. The coach just won't put the gaurds in their place and make them play controlled ball. Hell, with even a hint of coaching last season we could have made a run to the sweet 16. He just wouldn't get them to run an offense.

dubb93 · 12-08-2005, 03:20 PM

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Do other teams give up as many uncontested layups?

That was the Ben Allen effect. He just isn't ready to play D1 defense. The main problem was the turnovers, Allen only gave up 9 more points(30) than he scored(21). If we had slowed the game down and protected the ball we could have won despite Ben's lack of defense.

Kodos · 12-08-2005, 03:23 PM

Losing to Indiana State did hurt.

ThunderingHERD · 12-08-2005, 03:30 PM

Look so good? Didn't they lose by double digits, or close to it. They didn't look any better than Penn, Drexel, or VT has playing Duke this year (all of which played them much closer than expectedd) and those games were at Cameron.

Johnny93g · 12-08-2005, 03:31 PM

yes, the indiana st loss hurt, but that was our 1st bad game of the year, and we did make a strong comeback attempt...we didnt just roll over and die.....

I'm a glass half full guy, and im pretty confident that this team will be much better in March then today

DJ will be back, Marco will have less pressure on him to dominate...AJ Ratliff will have more of a defined role, James Hardy will be available, Ben Allen will be better. I really like the make up of the team, and i think we'll be just fine....

We will be ready for Kentucky, and im expecting a hard fought, close game....

Go IU!!!

Kodos · 12-08-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Look so good? Didn't they lose by double digits, or close to it. They didn't look any better than Penn, Drexel, or VT has playing Duke this year (all of which played them much closer than expectedd) and those games were at Cameron.

They were ahead fairly late in the game, but ran out of steam down the stretch. I thought they looked good against Duke.

Johnny93g · 12-08-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Look so good? Didn't they lose by double digits, or close to it. They didn't look any better than Penn, Drexel, or VT has playing Duke this year (all of which played them much closer than expectedd) and those games were at Cameron.

it finished as a 7 point game, but that was inflated by late free throws. It was a great game, and we played at #1 Duke's level.

cody8200 · 12-08-2005, 06:49 PM

With 7 minutes left, IU was beating Duke.

Also, yeh it kills me to lose to Indiana St, but...for some reason everytime we play them its a close game anymore. They have beat us the last 3 out of 4 times. Just one of those in state rivalry things. I think we are going to play Kentucky well this Saturday and show why we are a good team.

miami_fan · 12-08-2005, 08:58 PM

I did not see the game against Indiana St but how is it that Killingsworth only had ten shots?

dubb93 · 12-08-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I did not see the game against Indiana St but how is it that Killingsworth only had ten shots?

He was pretty well double and triple teams, but the gaurds didn't look for him very often either.

hoosiergoody · 12-09-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I did not see the game against Indiana St but how is it that Killingsworth only had ten shots?

That's where White will help out.

It still all comes down to defense. Defense wins ball-games, and right now I am seeing a 20 win season, but not more, especially in the big ten...

dubb93 · 12-10-2005, 03:48 PM

Seriously, if we run our O the way we have in the first half while Killingsworth has been in there the rest of the season there is no reason we can't win the Big Ten. When Killingsworth came out they were quick to throw up an uncontrolled shot though, but not really enough to hurt us. Something tells me this team ran alot of stairs this last week and got an offense drilled into their brains. Hopefully we can keep some of this 16 point lead in the 2nd half.

Johnny93g · 12-10-2005, 03:56 PM

We will win the big 10

rexallllsc · 12-10-2005, 05:59 PM

Mike Davis is the new Steve Lavin.

Johnny93g · 12-14-2005, 09:09 AM

Just bought tickets to attend my first NCAA game. Gonna drive down to Michigan, March 4th to watch my Hoosiers destroy the Wolverines!!!!!!...im so excited!!!!!

miami_fan · 12-15-2005, 08:04 PM

I was going the some of the D-League rosters and I noticed that he is playing with the Florida Flame. I saw that he was a early entry last year. Just wondering if he thought he was that good or were there other issues that caused him to leave the program early.

FYI George Leach is playing on the same team

dubb93 · 12-15-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I was going the some of the D-League rosters and I noticed that he is playing with the Florida Flame. I saw that he was a early entry last year. Just wondering if he thought he was that good or were there other issues that caused him to leave the program early.

FYI George Leach is playing on the same team

I do believe he was a lottery pick. Not sure who took him.

dubb93 · 12-15-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I do believe he was a lottery pick. Not sure who took him.

EERRRRRR...Maybe not, looks like 2nd round to Minnesota. I don't really feel sorry for him, never really thought he helped the team out.

miami_fan · 12-15-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

EERRRRRR...Maybe not, looks like 2nd round to Minnesota. I don't really feel sorry for him, never really thought he helped the team out.

That is what I had thought as well. I thought maybe it was a falling out with coaches or grades that caused him to declare early. Oh well

miami_fan · 01-28-2006, 06:46 PM

Davis on White: 'He's 99 percent out for the season'By Andy Katz
ESPN.com

Indiana sophomore forward D.J. White is likely out for the season because his broken left foot isn't healing quick enough, Hoosiers coach Mike Davis told ESPN Radio's College GameDay on Saturday afternoon.

Davis said X-rays showed that White's broken foot hadn't progressed enough within the last two weeks.

"He's 99 percent out for the season," Davis said. "As it stands today, I'd say he's out for the season."

White, last year's Big Ten freshman of the season, broke his left foot in the preseason and was sidelined until Dec. 19. He played in five games, averaging 9.2 points and six rebounds for the Hoosiers before suffering a break in a different part of the foot.

The injury occured in his fifth game back, Jan. 9 against Ohio State. White met with the staff of Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., to determine if he could return this season.

"He wants to come back," Davis said. "If this were December, then I'd say he'd be back but we've only got about three or four weeks left of the [regular season], so it doesn't seem like it's going to happen."

The Hoosiers will lose senior Marco Killingsworth after the season, which would allow White to replace Killingsworth as Indiana's primary post scorer in 2006-07.

Indiana (12-4, 4-2 Big Ten) visits Minnesota on Sunday.

Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com.

Hope he uses his medical redshirt.

DeToxRox · 01-28-2006, 06:49 PM

Michigan is in first place right now. FYI.

miami_fan · 01-28-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Michigan is in first place right now. FYI.

Hurry up and fire Tommy please. Thanks

Johnny93g · 01-28-2006, 11:57 PM

Great oppurtunity for a road victory tommorow....Those come rare in the big 10...Minnesota is winless so far, and if IU wants to win the big 10, they need this game

Johnny93g · 01-29-2006, 02:24 PM

demoralizing, we suck on the road

cody8200 · 01-30-2006, 08:27 AM

No doubt. That Minn. loss hurts. I hope we can turn things around on the road in the upcoming weeks. We looked like absolute crap in this last game. Minnesota hadn't even won a big ten game this year. But, road wins are hard to come by this year for any Big 10 team.

hoosiergoody · 01-30-2006, 09:46 AM

3 straight poor shooting games... get back to the game-plan, and for crying out loud, hit some free-throws! Where's the team that used to MAKE more FT's than the other team would shoot game-in and game-out?
Sure hope we can hit the broad-side of a barn this coming Saturday...

Johnny93g · 01-30-2006, 09:52 AM

at least we are at home for uconn, ive lost all my confidence in this team on the road. We NEED strickland to score 15 a game again

hoosierdude · 01-31-2006, 01:15 AM

Actually I believe the UConn game might show up Davis' feeble in coaching abilities again. Now the next game he coaches he is fine with what he has seen before, but as a head coach, he makes an excellent recruiting 1st assistant.

12-08-2005, 03:30 PM	#6
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Look so good? Didn't they lose by double digits, or close to it. They didn't look any better than Penn, Drexel, or VT has playing Duke this year (all of which played them much closer than expectedd) and those games were at Cameron. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

12-08-2005, 03:31 PM	#7
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	yes, the indiana st loss hurt, but that was our 1st bad game of the year, and we did make a strong comeback attempt...we didnt just roll over and die..... I'm a glass half full guy, and im pretty confident that this team will be much better in March then today DJ will be back, Marco will have less pressure on him to dominate...AJ Ratliff will have more of a defined role, James Hardy will be available, Ben Allen will be better. I really like the make up of the team, and i think we'll be just fine.... We will be ready for Kentucky, and im expecting a hard fought, close game.... Go IU!!! __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-10-2005, 03:56 PM	#15
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	We will win the big 10 __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-14-2005, 09:09 AM	#17
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	Just bought tickets to attend my first NCAA game. Gonna drive down to Michigan, March 4th to watch my Hoosiers destroy the Wolverines!!!!!!...im so excited!!!!! __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-15-2005, 08:04 PM	#18
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Bracey Wright I was going the some of the D-League rosters and I noticed that he is playing with the Florida Flame. I saw that he was a early entry last year. Just wondering if he thought he was that good or were there other issues that caused him to leave the program early. FYI George Leach is playing on the same team

12-08-2005, 03:23 PM	#5
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Losing to Indiana State did hurt.

12-08-2005, 06:49 PM	#10
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	With 7 minutes left, IU was beating Duke. Also, yeh it kills me to lose to Indiana St, but...for some reason everytime we play them its a close game anymore. They have beat us the last 3 out of 4 times. Just one of those in state rivalry things. I think we are going to play Kentucky well this Saturday and show why we are a good team.

12-08-2005, 08:58 PM	#11
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I did not see the game against Indiana St but how is it that Killingsworth only had ten shots?

12-10-2005, 05:59 PM	#16
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	Mike Davis is the new Steve Lavin.

01-28-2006, 06:46 PM	#22
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Sorry Hoosier Fans Davis on White: 'He's 99 percent out for the season'By Andy Katz ESPN.com Indiana sophomore forward D.J. White is likely out for the season because his broken left foot isn't healing quick enough, Hoosiers coach Mike Davis told ESPN Radio's College GameDay on Saturday afternoon. Davis said X-rays showed that White's broken foot hadn't progressed enough within the last two weeks. "He's 99 percent out for the season," Davis said. "As it stands today, I'd say he's out for the season." White, last year's Big Ten freshman of the season, broke his left foot in the preseason and was sidelined until Dec. 19. He played in five games, averaging 9.2 points and six rebounds for the Hoosiers before suffering a break in a different part of the foot. The injury occured in his fifth game back, Jan. 9 against Ohio State. White met with the staff of Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., to determine if he could return this season. "He wants to come back," Davis said. "If this were December, then I'd say he'd be back but we've only got about three or four weeks left of the [regular season], so it doesn't seem like it's going to happen." The Hoosiers will lose senior Marco Killingsworth after the season, which would allow White to replace Killingsworth as Indiana's primary post scorer in 2006-07. Indiana (12-4, 4-2 Big Ten) visits Minnesota on Sunday. Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com. Hope he uses his medical redshirt.

01-28-2006, 06:49 PM	#23
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Michigan is in first place right now. FYI.

01-28-2006, 11:57 PM	#25
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	Great oppurtunity for a road victory tommorow....Those come rare in the big 10...Minnesota is winless so far, and if IU wants to win the big 10, they need this game __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

01-29-2006, 02:24 PM	#26
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	demoralizing, we suck on the road __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

01-30-2006, 08:27 AM	#27
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	No doubt. That Minn. loss hurts. I hope we can turn things around on the road in the upcoming weeks. We looked like absolute crap in this last game. Minnesota hadn't even won a big ten game this year. But, road wins are hard to come by this year for any Big 10 team.

01-30-2006, 09:46 AM	#28
hoosiergoody Mascot Join Date: Nov 2005	3 straight poor shooting games... get back to the game-plan, and for crying out loud, hit some free-throws! Where's the team that used to MAKE more FT's than the other team would shoot game-in and game-out? Sure hope we can hit the broad-side of a barn this coming Saturday...

01-30-2006, 09:52 AM	#29
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	at least we are at home for uconn, ive lost all my confidence in this team on the road. We NEED strickland to score 15 a game again __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

01-31-2006, 01:15 AM	#30
hoosierdude High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana	Actually I believe the UConn game might show up Davis' feeble in coaching abilities again. Now the next game he coaches he is fine with what he has seen before, but as a head coach, he makes an excellent recruiting 1st assistant. __________________ TC Dale "Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud - Sophocles"

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