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Crazy Mom Alert...
Get a call at work from my mom at work. She informed her psychiatrist that she wants to get a gun and shoot all of her kids. Psychiatrist in turn calls me and wants to call him back...
My mom has been seriously slipping into crazy for the last few years and it is just getting worse. I don't know what I should do with this little new nugget that she has passed on. Worst case, guess I could call the police and have a restraining order placed on her. On a lighter note, she is 73 so, if she pulls a gun on me, I think I could take her.
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 10-28-2005 at 03:58 PM. |
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10-28-2005, 11:48 AM
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10-28-2005, 11:49 AM
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uhhh........
I got nothing.
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10-28-2005, 11:55 AM
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Ahh.. ya.. about what I got right about now.
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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10-28-2005, 11:56 AM
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10-28-2005, 11:57 AM
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I say hunt her down and shoot her before she does it to you.
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10-28-2005, 11:59 AM
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What can you say?
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10-28-2005, 12:06 PM
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If my wife wouldn't miss her family so much.. we would. My mom has been upset at my wife for 2 years because one day, when my Mom was over (In the year 2 PC.. pre-crazy) our dog started barking on my Mom's lap and my wife scooped the dog up so he would stop. My Mom got upset because she has known the dog longer than my wife.. I heard about that every week for about 6 months... 
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 10-28-2005 at 12:07 PM. |
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10-28-2005, 12:09 PM
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Dude...we gotta be half brothers or something....your entire story scares me as it is similar to mine..
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10-28-2005, 01:40 PM
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10-28-2005, 01:43 PM
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What is the diagnosis? Is she slipping into dementia? Is she doing this for attention? Perhaps said psychologist would recommend a course of action for you? they have all sorts of drugs that help mental maladies these days. |
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10-28-2005, 03:44 PM
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Is there some kind of "mentally unstable list" you can get her put on so she can't get a gun permit?
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10-28-2005, 03:56 PM
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I really don't think it is dementia... She has been like this my entire life and I haven't known anything else. Heck, she even said (admitted) to me a few months ago that she was a manipulative bitch (her words, not mine). So, she is aware of what she is doing and it is mostly an attention thing. I can't remember how many times she has said she is going to kill herself but, this saying she wants to kill us is a new one in her bag of tricks... As for medication.. she is already on 12-14 different types.. which, in itself is an issue.
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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10-28-2005, 03:57 PM
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*L*.. ok.. no picture but I see where the link goes. 
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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10-28-2005, 03:58 PM
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I have a very similar mother, who has come back up out of the total crazies and is now only peculiar, verging on crazy. I totally sympathize. It's hard enough when anyone in your family loses their grip, but hardest of all when it's your mom.
I've had to stop my mom twice from killing herself. And then she had to be talked out of a murder plot.. I can't believe it myself, but there it is. Long ago she wasn't like that. The hardest part is reallizing the old mom is never coming back. You've got to cry your tears about it and get past it. Then it's only dealing with the day to day insanity.. In other words, as you know by now, there is no bright side. |
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10-28-2005, 04:14 PM
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I'm lucky. I'm the crazy one in the family, so I don't have to put up with that kinda stuff.
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10-28-2005, 04:29 PM
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turkey day should be fun this year
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10-28-2005, 11:29 PM
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Glad to know that the psychiatrist properly exercised his Tarasoff duty. Sorry to hear about your mom. You might consider pursuing a short term psychiatric committment to have her further evaluated and possibly treated if the psychiatrist didn't do that... Good luck. Edit: Just read the rest of the thread. 12-14 medications (if they are all psychiatric or even more than 2 or 3 are psychiatric) is uhhhmm.. uhhmm.. interesting. Perhaps, you might want to see about getting her committed and having her medication regimen re-evaluated.
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10-29-2005, 05:34 PM
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Dude...that sucks.
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10-29-2005, 05:40 PM
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Rough.
But I imagine the cocktail she's taking is responsible for a large part of it. Find a doctor who can find a way to cut down the number she's taking... My guess is her mental state will improve significantly if the number of medications is reduced.
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12-21-2005, 04:06 PM
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Haven't done an update to this recently but, figured this was worthwhile..
Mom calls me at work... "Hi, just wanted to let you know that I'm home from the hospital. I tried to commit suicide last night but, didn't work. So, I'm home." (See claims vicoden overdose) What... the.. FUCK!!! For starters, I thought there was a mandatory 72 hour commitment if this happens... I didn't think a hospital just sent you him like you had the flu. I just don't think I have any option now other than attempting to have her committed as a threat to herself regardless of if she is telling me the truth or not.
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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12-21-2005, 04:11 PM
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12-21-2005, 04:47 PM
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12-21-2005, 06:45 PM
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The 72 hour commitment laws vary from state to state. Also, it is possible the hospital didn't believe this was a suicide attempt (they may have thought it was an accidental overdose.) Sorry to hear that you are dealing with this. |
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01-12-2006, 10:05 AM
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New stuff!
Yesterday, my Mother proceeded to call and leave phone messages for my sister and one of my brothers (my other brothers and myself were spared this time..) In a nutshell, she told them that she had a gun, knew how to use it and they had better watch their backs. So, my sister called the police. She is fed up with dealing with this. The police recorded it and turned it over to the police in the town that my Mom is in who proceeded to go over to her place to search for a gun and find out what was going on. The police called my sister back and told her my Mom was apparently unstable and they could either issue a citation or do nothing. At this time, my sister just went with the do nothing. The police did also tell my Mom to cease any contact so, what does my Mom do? 10 minutes after my sister hung up with the police, My Mom calls my sister up and leaves ANOTHER phone message this time berating my sister calling her a bitch and telling her that my Dad (who passed away 8 years ago) was going to get her... Ahh.. family.
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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01-12-2006, 10:06 AM
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I love this thread.
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01-12-2006, 10:17 AM
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Sorry to hear that this is continuing. We have been dealing with issues (thankfully not as severe as this) with my grandparents for a number of years now, so I can only imagine how stressful this must be.
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01-12-2006, 10:24 AM
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If she truly believes her husband is still alive, then the bolded part smacks of dementia. EF's advice above is exactly what I'd recommend - if her med regimen hasn't been reevaluated to determine if it is contributing to the unstable behavior, that needs to be done ASAP. And I'd want to have her evaluated not just by a psychiatrist but by a neurologist/neuropsychologist to determine if this behavior might have a neurological component to it as well. Assuming this entire episode represents new behavior for her (i.e., she hasn't been pulling similar but less severe stuff all of her life), 73 is pretty old for such a change to be just psychologically/personality-based. Dementia, especially one that preferentially affects frontal lobe functioning (such as fronto-temporal dementia, Pick's disease, etc.) would not be surprising. Regardless of the cause of this behavior, I'm very sorry to hear about the problems she's having and the effect it is having on your life. Take care of yourself. |
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01-12-2006, 10:54 AM
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Very strange
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01-12-2006, 10:58 AM
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Okay, ain't none of my business but ...
A) Have you guys (all the children) considered the process of having her committed? If no ... why the fuck not? If yes ... why are you posting here instead of working hard on option A I'm sorry you're going through this, but what you describe here (which is admittedly only a sampling) gives me serious doubts as to whether she is in any condition to be on her own & free to roam.
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01-12-2006, 11:07 AM
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Actually, I left out one part.. that if my Dad was alive he would be rolling around in his coffin. I 'think' she was trying to say that my Dad was going to get her in the afterlife.. I'd love to believe it was dementia or something else but, when I confronted her on her behavior she said she just does it to be mean and spiteful.. I'm pretty much of the opinion that she is just a mean bitter person.. There is ALOT more that I could go into from over the years but, this thread would be 90 pages long. As for any medical exams, I think the only way to force anything on her is to have her committed as a family. The local hospitals pretty much view her as a joke at this time. (I know a few people that work at the places she goes to and when they heard I was related they just smirked so, her reputation is well known) She is on so many medications that I don't know what is real and what is just want she wants to believe so the doctors go along with her... Plus, she doesn't want to do anything that anyone recommends because she sees it as a slap againts her independence...
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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01-12-2006, 11:12 AM
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I'm starting to ask myself that every day...
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You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... |
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01-12-2006, 11:15 AM
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Does she have a knack for sports statistics? Maybe she can become a Wisconsin version of those folks in Georgia like Bud or Slick Rick.
Other than that, I've got nothing.
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01-12-2006, 12:12 PM
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Looks like she just talked herself off of the Mother's Day Card list.
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01-12-2006, 01:27 PM
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I'd turn in the doctor for breaking the doctor/patient confidentiality. Maybe then your Mom will spare you.
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01-12-2006, 03:20 PM
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That confidentiality is broken if patient makes a specific threat against any person. It is called the Tarasoff Duty, and it is a duty to both warn the person threatened as well as protect (this can involve notifying the police, filing a committment, etc.) |
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01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
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Dola -
I think Fonzie's advice is right on the money. I'd recommend having her evaluated from both a psychiatric and neurological perspective (ideally by both a psychiatrist and neuropsychologist.) Most big psychiatric hospitals have access to one. Also most states, have a process to get someone to the emergency room to be evaluated. From there, it is important that family accompany the person and explain to the ER doctor why their family member needs to be psychiatrically committed.. In any case, good luck with this difficult situation. |
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01-12-2006, 10:24 PM
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Yeah, best of luck with this Mustang.
By the way, what's her license plate number? I'll try to remember not to flick her off when I have road rage. |
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01-12-2006, 11:11 PM
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I feel for you, Mustang.
My mom was a wonderful woman when I was younger, but in the early 1990s our family went through some struggles and she never made it out of it. She was what I'd consider a casual marijuana user before all this. She drank, sometimes a lot. Still, I consider her a decent mom. She did everything a mom's supposed to do. Once the family struggles hit, she started using other drugs. First it was a dependency on her thyroid medication, and then on to stronger things. Drinking a lot was no longer a sometimes thing. By the time I was 18 in 1994, my mom was out of it more than she was into it. I had the local police wake me up twice on weekends. She called them telling them I was beating her. They knew better, but asked me to leave for the day each time. I would try to catch my mom on her good days and try to have meaningful conversations with her. She called the school a few times about things like that as well. Those trips to the principal's office...ah, the glory days. During the spring athletic banquet, she tried to stuff a helium filled balloon in her purse. Her dependency on alcohol and drugs kept the family in the struggle that we were in. Despite my dad making good money as a carpet installer, we always seemed broke. I never got senior pictures taken or get a senior ring. I lied about my insurance so I could play football. I rarely asked my parents for money, because I knew they wouldn't have it. My brother quit high school and still doesn't have his GED. My sister was quickly becoming my mother. At 14, she was drinking, smoking cigarettes and marijuana, and cursing like a sailor. Pardon the pun. The last time I talked to my mom was in early April 1999. By this time, I had become the "good" son. The Navy Son. The One That Loves Her. All my brother and sister heard from her was about me...on her good days and bad. She called me that day to tell me my sister was "beating her." I remember grinning and trying to talk her through it without staying on the phone much. I had a buddy of mine from my ship there and we were just about to leave the apartment. A few days later, she was in ICU with a drug overdose. She'd been there before. She'd been in rehabs as well. Somehow, she always got out. This one was supposedly pretty serious. I asked for leave to go home. It was denied. I'm bitter about that to this day. She got out. No big deal. I didn't get a phone call or anything, but I was told as much. I did get a phone call the night of April 29th. My mom had died of a heart attack at the age of 40. I was angry. I would have been home had the ship allowed me to go home on leave. I got apologies. I didn't care. I went home and I was going to kill that friggin low life dealer of hers. I was just sure she had got back on something. Turns out she was relatively clean. A little marijuana, but nothing what it used to be. ---- My mom's death led to something good. That morning my sister cursed my mom out that morning. When my sister came back she found my mom on the floor. My sister cursed her then, thinking she had a seizure. My sister changed. Greatly. She quit smoking and drinking. She quit the drugs and got clean. She joined the Army. She got married...to a loser, but she did get married and have a kid. The last few years I had with my mom were tough. But I'm glad her death meant something to my sister. I'm glad for the good times I had with her.
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I really should write a book. I tell all my stories for free.
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At least you put a Tennessee reference in there.
Edit: Come to think of it, our time in Tennessee was the last time my mom was well.
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01-13-2006, 05:06 PM
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Is that you Christopher Titus?
My first post and it's on a crazy mom thread? hmmmm, anyway this sounds very much like an episode of Titus.
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