If SkyDog did not apologize, I was not going to return.


This "shit" would most definatly would have happened again if SD stuck to his guns. It's pretty clear that you have no idea what happened. SD tried to supress any mention of what someone said about Fido in the off chance that Fido would see it and decide to never make/update his utilites again (a stance which he currently holds, btw). It is inevitable that someone would have said something bad about Fido again, and the whole situation would have repeated itself, because there was no way for anyone to know that bad things being said about Fido was against the rules.

When I got home this afternoon from work, I had no intentions whatsoever of coming to FOFC. The only reason I did was because a thread on the eNFL board was talking about a huge bug that was found. So I came here to see what the uproar was about and to see if Jim had responded. That's when I saw this long thread titled Moderation and was curious.

If this "bug" never came to light on the eNFL boards or the FOFL boards (they also have a thread on it I would have seen), chances are I would not be here at all right now.

That's all I'll say on this as I think I've said all I could. If you want to keep making assertions that you know 100% what I would and would not have done, go ahead. I don't care.

You pretty much nailed it. ;)

How 'bout a Fresca?

What I find ironic and sad is that in the act of protecting Fido, his name has now been publically dragged through the mud even more. That's human nature, I guess.

how was he protecting fido? he was protecting the possibility of getting an updated version of software made.

Must.. get.. axe... sharper.... More grinding on the message board nessassary.....

We get it already.

I think the real lesson to be learned here is that if someone wants to post, there really isn't anything that can be done, despite all the chest-thumping by the H.N.I.C.

Wouldn't you agree, Skydog?

Apparently, our purgatory board of banned members will be inhabited by an angel.

byebye Cherub. Alak, we hardly knew ye.

I think I've looked at this board a total of 3 times in the last 4 months, and posted nothing. I'm just amazed at how little changes, especially in the moderation.

But anyways, I got better things to do. I'm not here to rain on anyone's parade, I'm just surprised that people honestly believe things will change just because Ben said he was sorry once.

You ever seen one of those big forest ants, that can take a couple of stomps before you kill them? Some of the insects that you get on a message board are like that. But in the end, if one is driven by stupid desires just to be a menace on a message board, one doesn't have the mental capacity to avoid the final stomp that will come eventually.

Let's just put it this way:

Skydog has said his "final" goodbye to me on more than one occassion, and Driftwood did post over 100 times before deciding his time was through. I just think some people need to relax and realize that the forum doesn't belong to any one person, and no one person has the right to shape and mold the content of the forum to suit their fancy. Skydog has forgotten that, and was rightfully called on it.

Do you really think it won't happen again, or that all the members are now magically going to play on a level playing field? You're kidding yourselves. This always has, and always will be Skydog's World, and you're all just living in it.

im offended, not one mention of "me"

Wait? So who has some Burger King? I'm kindof hungry.

SI

You know, from the previous 3 pages of this thread I could have sworn the opposite case was being made.

And yet i would be willing to bet that pretty much everyone on the board applauded when you were banned. All the permanent bans i've seen on this board have met nearly universal approval.

This is our world, that is all of us that can get along with each other, and you are no longer living in it. At least you won't be again come 5am.

Dude, no one cares.

I think Cherub has made some valid statements, i find it hard to disagree with some of them indeed.

If someone apologizes for something like this, rather than say, MURDER, I think its easy to forgive and move forward.,.....you know what? If it happened again and it took 24 - 48 hours for Ben or someone else to learn from a mistake, I woudl forgive them again cuz guess what? Its not like he killed me!! just forgive, and have fun.

I said "SOME", meaning "NOT ALL". So thanks for your useless patronizing example.

Wouldnt it be easier for you to not make a general statement and actually say what you agree with than attack someone for guessing what you were referring to?

Anyways, my point was made. I'm sure Skydog will log in tomorrow morning, react with typical swagger and proclaim (once again) that as long as he's moderator, I'll never be allowed to post again.

He may be part right. I may never post again, but it certainly won't be his choosing.

I'm not here to insult any of you or get into a flame war. I just think some of you need to stop kidding yourselves. There's a simple reason why it seems like some people get away with swearing and insulting others and others get the boot for minor offenses. There's a reason why it seems like Skydog allows others to be ripped apart for their views but can't handle any criticism directed at him.

It's because that's the way it is, and you're kidding yourself if you think it's going to change because Skydog was backed into an apology this time.

that was mostly directed at Cherub.....

I'll rephrase:
Dude, no one cares about the the ramblings of an obvious attention whore.

All I can say is where is that (&#($&$% Fido? He started it. I'm going to tear him to pieces, I tell's you.



Actually, this was all part of SD's master plan. Defend Fido by banning others, but since Fido would not find out about it, eventually telling everyone it was because of Fido that he would put the board and his rep. on the line; so that Fido would fall hopelessly in love with SD and come out with a utility. Classic. Great move SD. And I must also give props to Cringer, Sabotai, Shorty, et al. for going along with it and making it look convincing by even posting on other boards about he so-called controversy. One of the better cons since the The Sting and the episode of Banachek involving the the theft from the railway car.

well first you dont take the apology at face value so thats pointless to discuss. then you proclaim that were kidding ourselves to think that a change might be possible but you dont allow for it. So Sd, cant possibly come out ahead in your view, and cant change period because my first sentence is valid. Therefore, this entirely falls on YOU, and anyone else who feels the way you do. A man apologizes and asks for forgiveness. If those he directs the apology choose not to accept it and stay away than it is they who carry all of the blame for that result. SD's hands are clean and now all that he carries with him is the wisdom from what he's learned. What have you learned from this? You say nothing so what could SD do EVER to convince you otherwsie. IT is truly at that point....pointless.

Flassch, shouldn't you be safeguarding the USFL from the evil renegotiators right now?

What about that episode of Hart To Hart where the dude dressed up as a Mummy and freaked out Mrs. Hart to drive her insane so he could move in and steal all their money?

Well... it really depends on when Paris Hilton does her next tape

im working on it, but first I have to smoke them out of their caves.

Ah, how could I forget the sparkling wordplay of the FOF faithful? :)

It never changes, does it?

Person A: Makes a post calmly discussing his disagreement with a current situation.

Persons A,B,C,D: "Asshat!"

Person A: Tries to restate his position in a clearer way, but still expresses displeasure and frustration.

Persons X,Y,Z: "F-CK off you worthless troll. No one gives a shit what you think!"

Skydog: "The troll has been dealt with. We don't need negativity like that here. Buh bye."

Persons A,B,C,D,X,Y,Z: "Thanks Skydog! That's why we love this forum! There's no place for insults or people just looking to start flamewars! You're the best!"

Can you please delete and ban Cherub now? thank you.

Maybe we should have a pool?

Asshat

Oh, don't worry. I'll be banned. Again :)

And as soon as Small Wonder starts, I'll be watching TV

I agree. But since it's winter, let's have it indoors and heated.

So earlier in this thread SkyDog was to blame, now you are going after the whole community?

SkyDog pissed you off because he didn't want to put up with you, and voila, no one else here wants to put up with you either. i guess its everyone else's fault but your own. Why are you even here?

Asshat.

thanks Driftwood, you took all the attention away from my picture.

-creative attention whore

Just had to post in this thread so I'd be a part of FOFC lore.

obviously some people don't (see Bucc), Bucc probably just didn't feel like wading through pages upon pages of posts to read (i didn't, just happened by chance to read the right ones)

People are able to state disagreements on all levels.. If you had shown any effort in showing intellect in any of your posts/statements and shown a desire to discuss your problems rather than acting like a spoiled twelve year old who did not get his favorite nintendo game for Christmas, then maybe people might actually care what you had to say.





edit: err maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the couch this morning in a bad mood...

I thought your picture was pretty darn funny.

Yeah, me too.

Cherub does have one point... a truly persistent troll could always find his way back on here.

But what's the point?

Anyhow, he's right. It's SkyDog's world, and we're all just living in it. Which is pretty much how every message board on the internet works. What do you expect?

Comments like this one always just amuse the hell out of me.

I never said YOU did, but it was suggested earlier in the thread that some would not come back without Skydog being replaced. I knew even then it was an over-statement, but that was what I was refering too. Glad you are back.

I can't speak for others, but as far as I was concerned that wasn't the case either, in fact as I said, the level to which things got heated upset me because I didn't want to see it escelate to that, I just wanted discussion on a decision I thought was overboard, nothing more, nothing less. If i thought SD was a bad mod i wouldnt be here at all, I think he's a very good mod in the grand scheme of things. Even the Beatles have their Yellow Submarine. :D

Gentlemen, please!

Less gum-flappin', more Mad-Libbin'! ;)

I am not sure what happened here.. I really haven't been around for a variety of reasons. But I was a little shocked to see some of the most famous posters in FOFC history taking off, and the person I live my youth through, Shorty, among them. I think I may have started this innocently, because I bumped the thread re: Fido's utility. My thoughts are pretty basic. If Fido gets mad and takes his ball and goes home, then so what? It was an amazing utility, one that I would pay for, but I will be damned if I am blowing him for it.

Why doesn't someone duplicate this utility?