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Are Cut-scenes Needed in Video Games?

With the days getting longer and baseball on the minds of gamers who own video-game consoles, what better time to discuss something that is in most sports video games? I am hinting at the classic cut-scene that is in most sports games today.

Cut-scenes are nothing new in games; they have been around for a long time. And, if you have spent any time playing sports games over the past decade, you have probably played some games that are better at capturing the essence of a live broadcast better than others when it comes to the cut-scene. Because these non-interactive scenes are probably not going away any time soon, we should try and figure out what works best in the future, and also decide if the cut-scene truly is the way to go.

MLB 09: The Show

Conveniently enough, there is no better sport to talk about when it comes to the issue of cut-scenes than the baseball genre. MLB 09: The Show has been widely renowned for its jaw-dropping and wonderfully produced between-play cuts. Little things like a batter walk-up or a conference on the pitching mound are probably not on the top of many must-have lists when it comes to games, but these things certainly add to the realism of the game.

I could go as far as to say that SCE San Diego has raised the bar in terms of what can be done with cut-scenes and set a new gold standard. If you leave this game on standby, as in put the controller down and just watch, you will be treated to some of the most unique scenes in any sports game today. From mascots on dugouts, to beach balls coming on the field, to players discussing their golf swings at the plate, to dugout antics, MLB The Show captures baseball in its many forms.

But are cut-scenes still wanted today? How many times while playing a game have you just pressed a button to skip back to the action? Sure, maybe you try and watch them the first few times, but then you start to see repeats and skip them. Would companies be better off just skipping the whole idea and working on other areas?

 


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MLB 2K9

That is where MLB 2K9 comes into play. The folks at Visual Concepts had a an idea and ran with it, and it should be interesting to see where this goes down the line. MLB 2K9 baseball has "Real-time Presentation" rather than cut-scenes. This more or less means there are "real-time" cut-scenes, which means there are no canned pre-recorded clips that the game cuts away to during certain moments in a game. The action unfolds on the field without cutting between various moments and scenes.

What happens is, say a player hits a foul ball and has to turn around and go back to the batter's box and pick up his bat. Well, in the past you watched a cut-scene where this all went down, and maybe there were a few variations of this cut-scene, but still it was canned and what you saw was never going to change during the scene.

Now, it could all be potentially dynamic and live. If you hit a ball that ricochets off something, you could see it in the background of your view. All the movement and animation that took place behind the scenes in the play is still going on, and if you look, you will see all the players doing things in "real-time."

MLB 2K series is not quite at this level yet, but the potential is there. As of this year, you can certainly tell that the game is all in real-time, but it is sometimes for the wrong reasons (see: herky-jerky animations of a batter walking back to the dugout).

Baseball = The Perfect Case Study

Regardless, the real-time approach is certainly something that is worth seeing more of in the sports genre, assuming it can be perfected over the years. Because no matter how good or fresh a cut-scene is at first, there is only so many times you will want to watch it.

I know for me, personally, one of the biggest letdowns in sports-gaming each year is the lack of presentational upgrades. I get bored quicker with a game that has the same stale commentary or introductions every single year. I like to feel like I am playing something new each time I fire up a sports game. It is the little things that keep us coming back for more and increase replay value for games.

How many of us play NHL 09 and race through the cut-scenes online? Or have played Madden and just wanted to get to the next play because we got tired of seeing a player adjusting his fake face-mask? How about the first time you saw some of the fan shots in NCAA Football or NFL 2K on the Playstation 2 and Dreamcast? You were probably pretty amazed -- the first 50 times -- and then it became old news.

So with the 2010 line of games due out later this year, let us hope some other games follow in the footsteps of what is right with cut-scenes -- like The Show's attention to detail and multiple diverse cut-scenes for one occurrence. Or, on the other hand, developers go in the new direction and try something a bit more innovative and unique.

Member Comments
# 21 statum71 @ 04/11/09 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by South318
Once you see a cut scene, you can pretty much predict what the outcome will be, which damages the gameplay. I think cut scenes aren't needed, they're usually the same ones over and over.
Disagree. It depends on the game. The Show's cut scenes are NOT the same ones over and over.

And it does add more drama to the game if done right.

I overthrew first base from short with the Twins last night. the showed Ron Gardenhire yelling out onto the field at Nick Punto. And it was done well. I mean he looked p*ssed. (it was 2 outs by the way)

You take away cut scenes, you take the drama from the game. And thats boring, I don't care how great gameplay is.
 
# 22 CarryTheWeight @ 04/11/09 05:19 PM
I'm all for cutscenes if they're done well and preferably in real-time. A modern sports game without cutscenes is like watching those "Game in an Hour" broadcasts on MSG or Leafs TV, you're wondering where all the drama is in-between plays or during stoppages. Some people like that, I'm sure, but I feel that you don't get the true feeling of immersion without cutscenes. Anything to make the game feel more like a real-life experience gets a thumbs up from me.
 
# 23 sooners52794 @ 04/11/09 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawker
Too many kids. Cut scenes are absolutely unnecessary. If the gameplay is strong enough, there would never be a need for a cut scene.

In many ways, cut scenes ruined sports games. I blame the kids that have no frickin' imagination and whine about things like uniforms, post game celebrations, and all other manner of crap that should be the last thing developers are worrying about.

"The little things" is code for, "Crap that kept developers from fixing glitches."
I hope you're joking, and not serious. You sound like a bitter old man lol many people that play video games are adults; im 15 and ill tell you most of my friends dont give a damn about what madden is updating, because they buy it every year anyways. About the imagination thing...if i wanted to imagine my team winning the super bowl id imagine the damn super bowl, not spend my hard earned 60 bucks (mine IS hard earned) on some half-assed madden that fails in many ways more than cut-scenes, and remind myself of how madden 04 for PS2 had super bowl cut-scenes, if overused but there nonetheless, and how it costs 99 cents and try to think of ways of how this new game is better than that old frisby.


On another note, cutscenes are one thing that makes college hoops 2k8 so fresh. actually they werent cutscenes, they were real time. i had a game where k-state was losing to my sooners by 4 in a close game, and michael beasley gets called for a cheap, questionable foul on blake griffin who tossed up a beautiful j off the glass and got the and 1. Beasley had picked up his fourth foul, and right there on the floor blake griffin is chest bumping his bro while beasley is flipping out and his teammate comes over to chill him down. at the time i was like "yeah, and1 bich thats what you get for not winning rookie of the year" but after watching the replay it went so smooth, i watched it at least 7 times. and you should see the coach almost walk on the floor and scream at his players when they screw up or give an easy basket, these little cut-scenes are why so many people still play games like choops 2k8 and the show (that can only get worse at this point)
 
# 24 Jackmouv @ 04/17/09 05:33 PM
Folks, we are in the age of Next Gen technology, we have the right (due to the prices we pay for gaming) to expect more, even from cut scenes. How about dynamic cut scenes? Instead of packing them in the game, how come the cut scenes can't be from recently played games? Some from the latest games that you have played; so when Griffey comes up they show a homer that you hit with him in the last game you played or the last home he hit off a certain pitcher. Also, the pre game scenes could be from REAL MLB, NBA or NFL games, like the last game the Mariners played or whatever your team is.

But there also needs to be an option to turn off ALL cut scenes. In my experience people either want them or they don't and making them moderate to please everyone, pleases NOONE.

I am Jackmouve, and that My Word!
 
# 25 Jackmouv @ 04/17/09 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sooners52794
I hope you're joking, and not serious. You sound like a bitter old man lol many people that play video games are adults; im 15 and ill tell you most of my friends dont give a damn about what madden is updating, because they buy it every year anyways. About the imagination thing...if i wanted to imagine my team winning the super bowl id imagine the damn super bowl, not spend my hard earned 60 bucks (mine IS hard earned) on some half-assed madden that fails in many ways more than cut-scenes, and remind myself of how madden 04 for PS2 had super bowl cut-scenes, if overused but there nonetheless, and how it costs 99 cents and try to think of ways of how this new game is better than that old frisby.


On another note, cutscenes are one thing that makes college hoops 2k8 so fresh. actually they werent cutscenes, they were real time. i had a game where k-state was losing to my sooners by 4 in a close game, and michael beasley gets called for a cheap, questionable foul on blake griffin who tossed up a beautiful j off the glass and got the and 1. Beasley had picked up his fourth foul, and right there on the floor blake griffin is chest bumping his bro while beasley is flipping out and his teammate comes over to chill him down. at the time i was like "yeah, and1 bich thats what you get for not winning rookie of the year" but after watching the replay it went so smooth, i watched it at least 7 times. and you should see the coach almost walk on the floor and scream at his players when they screw up or give an easy basket, these little cut-scenes are why so many people still play games like choops 2k8 and the show (that can only get worse at this point)

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Tigers and Sooners to do battle on the hardwood?

April 17, 2:24 pm PST

Memphis, TN – News sources are buzzing around a potential College Hoops 2K8 exhibition matchup with the Memphis Tigers taking on the OU Sooners. OU coach sooners52794 has not been reached for comment yet, but Jackmouve, Tigers coach had this to say, “My boys are always ready to play, we’ll even play them at OU. Listen; if sooners52794 wants to add me to his PS3 friends list we can do it this weekend. I’ll be up north spanking Headlinah and his Kentucky Wildcats so I might as well pick up another win at OU.” VirtualSportzCenter.com will be monitoring the situation as it unfolds.
 
# 26 GAMEC0CK2002 @ 04/17/09 07:20 PM
IMO, cut scenes are still needed, especially in sports games. At this point, we should be seeing top notched cut scenes on both the PS3 and 360. Just imagine if EA or anyone else simply built on the framework provided in NFL 2k5. I must say I'm disappointed by the baby steps we've taken forward since moving from the Xbox 1, PS2 and Gamecube.
 
# 27 sooners52794 @ 04/19/09 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackmouv
vs.

Tigers and Sooners to do battle on the hardwood?

April 17, 2:24 pm PST

Memphis, TN – News sources are buzzing around a potential College Hoops 2K8 exhibition matchup with the Memphis Tigers taking on the OU Sooners. OU coach sooners52794 has not been reached for comment yet, but Jackmouve, Tigers coach had this to say, “My boys are always ready to play, we’ll even play them at OU. Listen; if sooners52794 wants to add me to his PS3 friends list we can do it this weekend. I’ll be up north spanking Headlinah and his Kentucky Wildcats so I might as well pick up another win at OU.” VirtualSportzCenter.com will be monitoring the situation as it unfolds.
sorry dude, i got 360
 
# 28 golli @ 05/24/09 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LastActionHero
Same here.
Even with HR Celebrations cam off you still know immediately (watching the runners windows. Running or walking.) if it's gonna be a homer or not.
I know I'm late on this but i gotta disagree. I love when I see a nice pitch come right down the middle, swing, then the camera zoomz out to show the player just watch it soar. In MLB the Show only sure home runs do the zoom back thing for my experience, and sometimes hitters just know when they really got behind one. I've also hasd several situations when all runners were hauling *** only to have the ball barely clear the wall, or where I think i drilled one for sure and it bangs off the wall and I get held to a single or double for lookin at the ball instead of sprinting the bases.
 

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