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What Baseball Games Are Legendary?

It just seems fittingly appropriate to look back in time on a day when every sports gamer is ready to dig into the 2009 baseball titles. After all, baseball video games have come a long way over the years.

There are now high-definition games with dynamic lighting, text-sims with incredibly deep franchise modes and even motion-controlled games complete with waggling. Games like MLB 09: The Show on the Playstation 3 have metric stats, formulas,and algorithms to calculate pitch counts, hitter tendencies, pitcher abilities and dynamic situations.

With all the realism found in these beautifully designed sports games, dare we ask the veteran sports gamers if today’s games compare to the level of fun the sports games of the past presented?

As educated members of the sports video-gaming community, we should always remember to look to the past greats that laid the foundation for the realism of today. Ah yes, the legends.

So what constitutes a legend? It probably varies for each person. But as a community of sports fans and gamers, our wants and needs are usually mutual. While it is hard to express in words how a great game achieves its intended level of entertainment and fun, every individual knows when a game has become legendary to him or her. For example, perhaps when a game’s replay value is seemingly infinite, you then consider it a legend. Or perhaps a game becomes a legend when it wins the battle against updated hardware and breakthrough technology.

Whatever the parameters are, the point is that every gamer thinks of some baseball game as legendary. And so, the point of this article is not to write about every sports game that I consider legendary, but more for all of you to take a moment to look back and think about what baseball games are legendary to you, and for what reasons -- and hopefully you will share those reasons with the community.

Of course, though, I will get the discussion going.

Major League Baseball Featuring Ken Griffey Jr.

To me, the Ken Griffey Jr. baseball games on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System and Nintendo 64 serve up some of the most hall-of-fame worthy features in any baseball titles to date. Why? Griffey keeps the fundamentals simple just like an all-pro should.

Griffey’s game on the SNES is fast-paced and the action is nonstop. Pitchers throw110 mph, and the batters are clearly the pioneers of the steroid era. Home runs that are smashed out of the stadium travel over 500 feet, which only adds to the arcade elements many baseball fans enjoy. Fast-paced games that are not time-consuming have proven to be fun many times over. Wii Sports baseball is a recent testimonial of that fact.

Major League Baseball Featuring Ken Griffey Jr. on the Nintendo 64 has some of the best gameplay elements in any baseball title in the history of the genre. The pitching and hitting interface is an engaging and interactive approach to the game of baseball. Your batter’s skill level is represented by the size of the dotted circle on a scale from one to 10. Each batter has five batting stats, and the pitchers have five pitching stats.

The pitcher’s pitch speeds, movement and stamina determine his skill level. In addition, the movement of the off-speed junk pitches can be controlled while on the way to the plate. So not only does the batter have to match the batting cursor to the ball to get some good wood on it, but the user must also predict the speed variance and the angle the pitch may move when heading towards the plate.

Users can go opposite field, up the middle or pull pitches, it all depends on how they measure up the bat on the ball. Batters must go with the pitch and hit to all fields to find success –- a great feat of realism for an outdated gaming console.

The other great feature in this game is the flight dynamics and physics of the actual baseball. When the ball is hit in the air, the camera travels above and behind the ball, which gives you a dramatic sense of how high the baseball is really traveling. The game even shows the seams on the ball from this angle. The balls fade and slice through the air depending on who hit the ball and from what side of the plate the ball was struck.

Home runs are a joy to hit because of this ball-flight camera, and the sheer crack of the bat as pure contact is made. It is a pure and crisp sound that you rarely hear in today’s baseball games, which is then followed by the sound of the ball cutting through the atmosphere.

MVP Baseball

I also think EA's MVP series is legendary because the Hitter’s Eye presents a unique challenge to anyone cranking up the pitch speed and difficulty to the highest settings. The realism of the arm angles in MVP is unmatched -- cutters from side-arm slingers will eat batters up for breakfast. If you are to stand a chance, the Hitter’s Eye is your only friend: The ball changes colors based on the type of pitch coming towards the plate. This color swap allows you to identify fastball, a pitch with movement or an off-speed pitch (red, green or yellow respectively).

These features may be small to some, but they are main reasons why I consider those two series to be legendary. I play Griffey to this day with my sister and she still beats me with the Mariners. To this day, it is still a fun challenge every time the ball is being delivered to the plate.



But back to the original point, what baseball games do you consider to be legendary and why? Relive those happy memories in text form and share your thoughts with the whole community.


Member Comments
# 61 Ajaaxx @ 03/04/09 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by johnprestonevans
Tommy Lasorda Baseball for the Genesis. I bought this game even before I had the system. While the game doesnt hold up well today, back then I was obsessed with the topdown fielding view and "zoom" of the ball. The players started looking more human when batting. This game came out at the hight of my baseball love and i think thats why it is still a favorite.
man, i remember buying this from a garage sale for $1 when i was 10. my brother used to skunk me all the time.

as for my most legendary baseball game, it'd be The Show as a series (really). each year improves on the year before, so i'd say MLB 09. the MVP series was definitely great, but The Show picked up where it left off.
 
# 62 KillRoy @ 03/05/09 02:13 AM
Tony La Russa Baseball 95 for the Sega Genesis. Its probably the best baseball game ever made. The original was a great game too... but 95 was the sh#t.
 
# 63 Turkus2 @ 03/05/09 05:45 AM
The ones that truly define greatness to me, for each their own reasons:

10. Triple Play 97 - EAs baby - that slowly got horrifically bad all the way up until the MVP franchise.
9. MVP Baseball 06 - Something about taking a chance on a college game got me into this game.. and it was built with the best engine ever, in my opinion.
8. Bases Loaded - Becker, Paste, Bay = cheating. So yeah, I cheated all the time.
7. Baseball Stars - The first baseball game I remember playing.
6. MLB: The Show 09 - Yes, its that good.
5. RBI Baseball - Pick one. I once scored 127 runs with the Atlanta Braves in one inning. That was RBI 93 on Genesis.
4. High Heat 2001/2003 - Unrivaled stat-tracking, replays, and, of course, the engine was spectacular and fully customizable.
3. World Series Baseball - Just after the dawn of Sports Talk Football. Sega was pushing the limits of commentary and presentation. Genre-busting.
2. MVP Baseball 05 - The closest thing I had to the pure joy I had playing number one....
1. All-Star Baseball 2000 - I can't tell you why this is number one, MVP had a much better engine. But this game just seemed to have everything else. And, if you truly wanted a challenge you could play the legends team on the cornfield. For whatever reason, the game played a lot smoother on the cornfield and Nolan Ryan's curveball would break from the brim of your cap to the dirt on your spikes. I don't think I ever enjoyed a game series anymore than the ASB series... until about 2002 when I felt they started to lose their edge. Up until MVP 2003, I was still an ASB fanboy.
 
# 64 joshuar9476 @ 03/05/09 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by joshuar9476
MVP 2005 ... one of the best modded baseball games. if it let you play a contracted schedule i'd still be playing to this day.
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Originally Posted by daflyboys
If you mean on the PC, it does.
unless it has been recently fixed, the schedule freezes when you get to the end of the regular season and you can't advance. it has something to do with the minor league teams.
 
# 65 jazzchamp @ 03/05/09 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2
My brother loved Griffey and MVP was huge for me as it got me back into baseball gaming. Going back to the past, Star League Baseball was a lot of fun on the Commodore 64 (I think that's what I used) and Baseball Simulator 1.0000 was the first game that tracked a ton of stats for me.
I used to play Star League Baseball almost daily with my friend growing up on our Atari 1200XL. We got so good at it, we would play to 1-0 or 1-2 games all the time and when a game winning hit was made, there were tears and jubilation! The game was very simplistic by today's standards, but the memories are great ones.
 
# 66 spaceg0st @ 03/05/09 06:47 PM
It's ALLLLLL about Major League Baseball Feat. Ken Griffey Jr on the N64. That game was the all time greatest in baseball gaming. The Hitting reticle had been done several times before but none did it as good as ken griffey junior baseball.

With the reticle, getting a hit was really in your hands. You could see where you missed the ball, or just got over it, under it etc. With games nowadays, i can't tell you how many times i've sworn to hit the ball perfectly only to hit a duck fart or chopper. Hitting was not only challenging, but fun in that game.
If MLB the show would only include an option like that to turn on or off, they'd not only be appealing to the hardcore baseball fans, but to the casual arcade baseball fan as well. I miss it and want it back.

Overall that game was just really well done. There weren't game altering glitches. You could tell where the ball was off the bat and get a good enough jump to make diving plays or big plays. There wasn't lag, or pre-rendered animations where the computer takes over your player as he gets close to the ball.

That's one thing i don't like about THE SHOW. Sometimes i miss judge a ball and dive when i shouldn't. But by that time my character has already started the pre rendered animation and nothing happens. I WANT to have control over my players. I WANT to miss the ball by diving past it. At least i'm responsible for any great or terrible plays.

I remember playing griffey with friends and often it would come down to one or two plays in that game that meant winning or losing. It was so well crafted that each player was really in charge of whether they won or lost. I miss those days.
 
# 67 spaceg0st @ 03/05/09 11:05 PM
Steven Bartlett!!! How do we convince someone at MLB 09 to update a patch with a reticle or something? We NEED one. Imagine Griffey on the n64 with the current SHOW graphics.
 
# 68 JohnDoe8865 @ 03/06/09 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Stoud
I'm amazed it's only been mentioned once:

All Star Baseball 2005.

Specifically for the Xbox, this was the first Baseball game to feature customizable soundtracks with music on your hard drive.

It was also the first Baseball game to feature the game from the point of view of the fielder, followed in a way by MLB: The Show with their RTTS feature.

It was also the first baseball game I believe to let people play in retro stadiums that have long since been destroyed, as well as giving people a look at the designs for suggested new ballparks, including the new Yankee Stadium.

Included with that amazing amount of ballpark detail were all the extra parks designed specifically for use in the Expansion mode, a game mode that has yet to be seen in any other baseball game and allows you to create your own expansion team.

All Star Baseball, especially the last iteration, was just always on the ball and always made FOR THE FAN. So yeah, I'd have to say that DEFINITELY belongs on the list.
YES! This game is legendary and it is mostly forgotten.

Others I'd include besides ASB 2005, in no particular order :

High Heat 2004
Front Page Sports '94
MVP 05
OOTP 5 or 6 (can't remember)
WSB 2k1 (Dreamcast)
 
# 69 Ridonkeykong @ 03/06/09 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Redlegs
Dusty Diamond Softball
Definitely! I still play that with an emulator.
 
# 70 ggazoo @ 03/06/09 03:31 PM
No one has mentioned Sports Talk Baseball for the Genesis yet? my friends and I would play that game for hours. Was it the first to have play by play?
 
# 71 buzzguy @ 03/06/09 03:33 PM
Glad to see the Ken Griffey games getting some love. The second one on n64 was a lot of fun, and very accessible. Sony's MLB 2004 (before it became "The Show") is another of my old favorites.
 
# 72 SBartlett @ 03/06/09 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceg0st
Steven Bartlett!!! How do we convince someone at MLB 09 to update a patch with a reticle or something? We NEED one. Imagine Griffey on the n64 with the current SHOW graphics.
lol spaceg0st. I'm sure we can get Sony to look at this thread. After all, they were posting all over our forums.
 
# 73 Mo @ 03/06/09 08:28 PM
The High Heat series on the PC.
For me especially the 02 version as it introduced the expanded 40 man rosters in September and of course the mods and gameplay. I think i went three years without buying another baseball game because of that game.
 
# 74 Michael_Young_EA @ 03/06/09 08:48 PM
#1 Baseball Stars. The prestige rating should be in all sports games.
# Bases Loaded. If it had real players I believe it would be more revered.
 
# 75 inkcil @ 03/07/09 03:56 PM
Please add VR Baseball 2000 (PS One) to this list. If you EVER see this title happening to sit in a bargin bin or something pick it up and just trip off how ahead of its time this game was. Great physics, great game of baseball. I played it for 2 years in a row before I got into the High Heat series.
 
# 76 Heelfan71 @ 03/08/09 03:06 PM
Micro League Baseball
Earl Weaver Baseball
Hardball
Tony Larussa 96
 
# 77 spaceg0st @ 03/09/09 02:15 AM
MLB THE SHOW GUYS!!! Play griffey on the n64... not the second one, that one sucked. Play the first one. If you incorporated the pitching square and reticle it would be PERFECT because you'd be appealing to the casual/arcade baseball crowd as well as the hardcore SIM fans. I know you have the hitting reticle but this is different.

Please, please, please patch it.

Also, it'd be great if the controller had more control of the player. In RTTS, i can't dive or jump even on my own unless the balls coming at me. It just feels like the game's playing for me. Even in regular play. There's times i'm tracking down a fly ball and try to dive but can't because the animation has taken over. Granted, i would have missed the ball by diving, but i would at least know it was my fault. I want that control.

Just play griffey, see how enjoyable it is and borrow some "legendary" ideas.

Thank you

If you have any other questions or concerns towards brilliant ideas, you can contact me at [email protected] =)
 
# 78 spaceg0st @ 03/09/09 02:16 AM
i meant to say "I know you have the plate coverage indicator but this is different."
 
# 79 Rocky @ 03/10/09 01:17 AM
Pro Yayakuu Spirits 5 is probaly the most realistic game ever. They take their games to a whole other level over there.
 


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