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Major League Baseball 2K9 Developer Diary: Gameplay

Hi everyone, my name is Jonathan Rivera and I am the Gameplay Producer on MLB 2K9. As an avid gamer and baseball fan, it was a dream opportunity for me to work on a baseball title. I look forward to building on what we’ve been able to do this year and continue to improve on this franchise.   As some of you already know, this year was challenging as we were switching development studios, as the game is now developed internally at Visual Concepts. 

With a new team, came a lot of opportunity to evaluate areas of the game that worked and didn’t work. This was a very important part of the process because most of us internally felt like there were many items in MLB 2K8 that separated us from our competitors.

Signature Style

Here at 2K, we are always striving to deliver the most authentic experience to our users. We want the users to look at our game and notice small details like how Kevin Youkilis holds his bat before each pitch and how he transitions his hands from higher on the bat down to a normal grip.

Signature style is something that we’ve been doing quite a while now across our sports titles, and we expanded on that this year even more for MLB 2K9 with over 300 new signature animations. When we announced that Tim Lincecum was going to be our cover athlete, we were all pretty excited to have a Cy Young winner represent our game, but even more than that it was going to be a great opportunity to really nail his signature delivery.

Soon after the announcement was made about him being our cover athlete, he came into our motion capture studio and we were able to capture a lot of animations unique to Tim including pitching from the windup, the stretch, strikeout reactions, homerun reactions, stepping in and out of the batter’s box, and many others. We spend a lot of time researching and perfecting each player’s signature style that it was a relief having the athlete come into our studio and all we had to say was “Do what you do!” The shoot was an amazing experience, and our game will be better for it. 

The goal this year was to make the game more accessible while maintaining the challenge our dedicated fans have come to expect, and we did this in five key areas.

Pitching   

One of the things that we all really enjoyed was the control for pitching. We felt like pitching with the Right Analog Stick was natural and it really added a lot of depth to gameplay. The thing that I liked the most about performing gestures was that it forced the user to really think about what pitch they want to throw in each situation. With traditional controls, once you perfected the timing of the meter or button presses, it was easy to get the perfect pitch every time. Because “the perfect pitch” in our game is defined in many different ways including having the “perfect gesture”, it’s not as big of an issue and adds a lot of variety to gameplay. With that said, we felt like the meatball was too much punishment for making even the slightest error last year in MLB 2K8. 

Changes to pitching:

Ø No more meatball – The idea of throwing a bad pitch when you made a poor gesture was good but the way we designated a meatball was definitely too harsh. What we did instead was to identify earlier on in the gesture process the pitch the user is attempting to throw, if they don’t finish the gesture or make a poor gesture we simply affect the way that pitch is thrown. For example, Fastballs will be straighter and slower while Curveballs will have less break on the ball. Naturally, this will make those pitches more hittable without making them “meatballs”. 

Ø Removed the “Release Timing” - We felt that the “Release Timing” aspect of throwing a pitch made the game less accessible. After thorough focus testing, we discovered that the aspect of pitching that attributed to the most “meatballs” was the release timing. As a result, we kept “Release timing” as an option to the user but not on the default controls. If a user loved the way it worked last year, they can turn it on from the pause menu.

Ø Inside Edge Data driving the AI – Inside Edge is our exclusive scouting service which is also used by some MLB teams to get reports on players. As in previous years, you can purchase these reports during your franchise to earn an extra advantage when facing the AI opponents. Our pitcher’s decision making is primarily based off Inside Edge data for pitchers and weaknesses. When deciding what pitch to throw where, our pitchers have to take into consideration many different variables most simply broken down into two aspects:

o   What does the pitcher want to throw and where?

o   What are the hitter’s weaknesses?

We spent a lot of time tuning this aspect as it is crucial to the final experience a user has while playing the game. For example, one of our early iterations of this feature resulted in the pitcher’s rarely throwing fastballs because the data indicated that Fastballs are the pitch that hitter’s are most successful against. The problem was that our AI wasn’t taking into consideration enough of “Pitcher’s strengths” rather mostly the hitter’s weaknesses. After much tuning and testing, we ended up with a system that takes all of those variables into consideration and then decides what pitch would be ideal in that specific situation and count.

The same pitch selection logic is used for the user by our catcher. In our game, our catcher suggests what pitch to throw and the location. The decision making of the catcher’s suggestion is the same used by the AI when pitching. 

Hitting

When evaluating the hitting system we knew that we really liked swinging with the right stick. We wanted to keep the same basic swing of pressing DOWN and then UP to time the actual swing. In MLB 2K8, we felt that most pickup and play users struggled with figuring out when to press down thus resulting in many poor hits. In order to fit our overall goal of making the game more accessible, we allowed the user to press down to “set” at any point during the at bat. We found that this not only made the game more accessible, it also made the game significantly more fun and allowed us to implement other aspects of hitting so that the user can focus more on pitch, and location of the pitch.

One of the high level goals that we had going into designing hitting for MLB 2K9 was to give the user the opportunity to read pitches and decide when to swing. In last year’s game, most users would swing at every pitch and be pretty successful. This year, our AI pitches more to the edges and out of the strike zone so it really helps if you can take a pitch and wait for your pitch as MLB players do in real life all the time. To help achieve this goal, we moved the hitting camera a little bit lower than it was in MLB 2K8 which allows the user to get a better read on the pitches low in the strike zone.

One of my favorite new features that we implemented is the ability to influence hit direction. Hit influence is controlled by the Left Stick:

Ø Up for a Flyball

Ø Down for a Groundball

Ø Left to Influence the hit Left

Ø Right to Influence the hit Right

That means if you want to attempt to hit the ball in the air to left field you just hold the Left Stick up and left. 

Additionally, this feature really works because it allows a more realistic way of hitting where if you attempt to pull an outside pitch, you are most likely going to get a poor hit. As a hitter you are better off going with the pitch and swinging in the direction of where the pitch was thrown. 

Lastly, we implemented zone hitting as an alternate control scheme. Zone hitting is where you have a cursor and you have to put the cursor in the same zone that the ball crosses the plate in addition to your regular swing. Zone hitting works with either the Classic swing (press A button) or Total Control (RStick). We also added a “sweet spot” to the cursor, if you lineup the “sweet spot” of the cursor where the ball crosses the plate, the hitter will get an additional boost to your hit.

Fielding

For fielding, we really liked the controls of last year’s game but we thought we could expand on the current system and streamline the throw system a little bit more. Our main goal was to fix a lot of the fielding bugs that were in last year’s game in addition to adding a couple of new features to add a level of depth to the overall experience. 

We received a lot of feedback in last year’s game about certain animations taking too long to play and feeling like there was nothing you can do to put a sense of urgency to your fielder. Also, once you started to throw in a certain direction, you weren’t able to change your mind so as soon as you start the throw meter you are committed to that throw.  As a result, we added two new features:

Ø Quick Throw Modifier – The throws will be quicker but there is a risk/reward to this feature, because you are essentially rushing your throw, there will be more room for error on the throw meter. 

Ø Hold Ball – As long as you have the button held down, the player will not throw to any base. This can also be used to pump fake during a pickle. 

Baserunning

For baserunning we thought, well we hit, pitch and throw with the right stick, why shouldn’t we run the bases with it too? So, the simple baserunning controls are:

Ø Press A button to select base runner

Ø Using the Right Stick press in the direction that you want the base runner to run to. So if you hit a ball into the gap, just move the Right Stick to the left to indicate that you want to try to stretch a triple. If you want him to stop at 2B, just press UP on the right stick. 

We also drastically changed the way you steal bases in our game for MLB 2K9. This is one of my personal favorite features because I think it adds a lot more risk to stealing and gives the user full control over their base runner. 

Basically, when you have a runner on first base you press LT (L2 on PS3) to take a lead. To steal, hold LT until it vibrates which will indicate that your runner is ready to take off. The runner will now take off when you release the button. Stealing “on the fly” certainly adds a lot of fun to base stealing because now the user is forced to try to get a good jump on the pitcher. If you get a good jump, you will actually take off right before the pitcher starts his delivery and get a perfect steal. 

We also added a little more information for pitchers, if you look over at the runner that’s on base, we give you his “steal rating” which indicates how much of a threat he is, so if you have Benji Molina standing at 1st, his steal rating will be pretty low and you can focus on the hitter.

Atmosphere

As always, we spend a lot of focus and attention on getting the right atmosphere for a baseball game. We want our users to feel like they are getting the same experience in playing our game as if they were watching a baseball game on TV. There are many different aspects of presentation that help the overall goal to improve the atmosphere in our game.

First, we wanted to get rid of cut scenes and have everything happen real-time. When replacing cut scenes with real-time events, we not only focused on big events like home runs and world series celebrations but smaller details like, “What happens to the bat after a player gets a hit?”, the answer is the ball boy runs to the bat, picks it up and takes it back to the dugout. Our dugouts now react to the events on the field; if a pitcher is subbed out the manager walks out to the mound, takes the ball from the pitcher on the mound and gives it to the reliever coming in from the bullpen. We felt like that kind of real-time detail would add a lot to the overall experience. 

Next, we established players moving around in real time. It gave us an opportunity to create a lot of the same camera shots that are used during a live telecast. We have many shots of the players walking back to the dugout, players running out of the dugout and to their positions in-between innings, the players warming up in the bullpen, etc. When playing our game, I always feel like the presentation adds a level of authenticity to our “broadcast” that enhances the baseball experience for me.

Finally, we focused on improving the crowd in our game. MLB 2K9 has the best and most lively crowd that we’ve ever had. Our crowd now reacts to our game not only over audio but you can see them individually get up after pitches or when a big pitch is coming, they’ll all get up in anticipation of a big hit or strikeout. If a home run is hit, you can see the crowd get up and watch the ball fly out as they would in real life and when the ball lands, our fans will try to catch it. 

Well, I think that’s about it for gameplay in MLB 2K9. We are all extremely proud of this game and hope you guys will enjoy. Keep sending your feedback because we do read all of your comments and criticisms. Thanks everyone for reading!


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# 101 drterb @ 02/11/09 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mwjr
I'm not getting the Real-Time atmosphere. How exactly will that be different from the cut scenes we're used to?
I believe another aspect of this is the Virtual Director. Since the events happen real-time and are not pre-rendered, different camera angles and views can be used to show similar shots throughout the game. Plus the timing of the camera switches (if it's implemented like I think it will be) will make every cut-away seem like you've never seen it before.

Everything just flows.....
 
# 102 Blzer @ 02/11/09 05:07 PM
To add onto the real time stuff, take things like the crowd, commentary crew, and PA announcer into account as well.

Let's say a player hits a home run. Not only will we finally get to see them rounding the bases the entire way through, but we will get a continuous roar throughout the crowd (perhaps some cuts with them too, cheering and such), the announcers maybe jibber-jabbering about which home run it is for them this season or if the team now tied it up, meanwhile that crowd is still going. Maybe they'll cut to replay while he's rounding the bases so you get the cheering in the background while the commentators are slowing down the pitch and home run, or maybe it will be after he crosses home plate while the crowd is still going and you're hearing the next player being announced as, behind the replay, he is actually walking up to the plate and maybe going through some of his routines, or maybe the catcher went out to talk to the pitcher or something of that nature. As we get away from replay, we can perhaps see the end result of the catcher running back to the plate and the umpire tossing the pitcher a new ball.

Basically, everything happens in real time. I'm not sure about between-inning stuff, but they did say some highlights at the end of innings as well as fading to black like going to a commercial. We'll see on Friday hopefully.
 
# 103 thegoons21 @ 02/11/09 08:14 PM
Good update. I definitely am excited with VC at the helm.

Just make sure you get Adam Dunn on my Nats....
 
# 104 johnnyg713 @ 02/11/09 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Blzer
To add onto the real time stuff, take things like the crowd, commentary crew, and PA announcer into account as well.

Let's say a player hits a home run. Not only will we finally get to see them rounding the bases the entire way through, but we will get a continuous roar throughout the crowd (perhaps some cuts with them too, cheering and such), the announcers maybe jibber-jabbering about which home run it is for them this season or if the team now tied it up, meanwhile that crowd is still going. Maybe they'll cut to replay while he's rounding the bases so you get the cheering in the background while the commentators are slowing down the pitch and home run, or maybe it will be after he crosses home plate while the crowd is still going and you're hearing the next player being announced as, behind the replay, he is actually walking up to the plate and maybe going through some of his routines, or maybe the catcher went out to talk to the pitcher or something of that nature. As we get away from replay, we can perhaps see the end result of the catcher running back to the plate and the umpire tossing the pitcher a new ball.

Basically, everything happens in real time. I'm not sure about between-inning stuff, but they did say some highlights at the end of innings as well as fading to black like going to a commercial. We'll see on Friday hopefully.
I never thought of how a score would play out in terms of presentation. If a homerun plays out that way then that would be amazing.
 
# 105 Asp86 @ 02/11/09 09:26 PM
I still wish these sports titles would bring in to count the score of a game late. Where fans will start walking up the steps and out of the arena because it's a blowout. If it's a blowout, you rarely hear crowd cheers because of the lack of fans in the stands. If it's not close, the fans should pretty much be taken out of the game. Meaning it should be so silent in the stadium with some side chatter. Obviously if it's the home team, you'd be hearing plenty of excitement.
 
# 106 allBthere @ 02/11/09 09:32 PM
this is the only thing that bothers me: influencing outside pitches to pull will result in poor hits -

now a lot of people will say 'duh?' but I've always had great satisfaction out of pulling outside pitches, and my favorite players from the past made careers off of it. Joe Carter, Frank Thomas and Vlad Guerrero did this and many more - many players are bad at hitting inside pitches, the old saying 'they like to extend their arms'. as pathetic as it sounds, if you can't hit an absolute bomb to left center w/ and outside pitch (low or mid), it's a possible deal breaker to me.
 
# 107 mwjr @ 02/11/09 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605
It's the same stuff, but not pregenerated. Everything is (in theory) flowing around you. The fans are moving, the bat boy collects the bat after a hit, the dugout and bullpens are live, etc.

Basically it all fits into the moment naturally rather than an event "triggering" the proper cutscene. It makes the environment seem more "alive" that way, if it's done well.

A good example would be if you played 2K9, to look at he benches. The coach is moving, barking at players, the bench is active and celebrating scores, the guy comes out to mop the floor, etc. All of this happens naturally throughout the game and isn't prerendered to happen...it just does.

Hope that helps somewhat

EDIT: Long-windedness strikes again...lol. Jeffy beat me to it
OK, I think I get the idea. I haven't seen 2K9, but I *think* I get it.

Wouldn't that slow things down? My concern from a gameplay perspective is the stuttering that would occur, e.g. when you're throwing the ball around the horn after a K. Would this real-time atmosphere help?
 
# 108 Shakedowncapo @ 02/12/09 12:10 AM
Man im telling you...If by year three, they don't have the bat sounds = to the hit...Im gonna **** bricks.
 
# 109 Blzer @ 02/12/09 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Shakedowncapo
Man im telling you...If by year three, they don't have the bat sounds = to the hit...Im gonna **** bricks.
We're talkin' 5.5 years here, paly (MLB 2K5: WSE included).
 
# 110 Artman22 @ 02/12/09 12:15 AM
Everything sounds good so far. I guess now just wait until friday
 
# 111 Shakedowncapo @ 02/12/09 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blzer
We're talkin' 5.5 years here, paly (MLB 2K5: WSE included).
Wow...I wasn't playing 2k series then(and for good reason) so that's pretty bad to hear. I think I'll press the producers on friday about this. Probably end up lying.
 
# 112 SoxFan01605 @ 02/12/09 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mwjr
OK, I think I get the idea. I haven't seen 2K9, but I *think* I get it.

Wouldn't that slow things down? My concern from a gameplay perspective is the stuttering that would occur, e.g. when you're throwing the ball around the horn after a K. Would this real-time atmosphere help?
I honestly don't know. I have concerns about this as well, but the framerate is just fine in the NBA game.

I'd imagine that they have some tricks to cover for those concerns as well (like maybe reducing the details of the backround stuff while it's not in clear view or something).

I have absolutely ZERO knowledge of programming...lol...so that is just a guess on my part, based on what I've heard some developers talk about.

I'd like to think that, given last years framerate troubles, they wouldn't have added anything that they thought would cause them further trouble in that area. We'll see how it works out soon enough, I guess.
 
# 113 mwjr @ 02/12/09 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605
I honestly don't know. I have concerns about this as well, but the framerate is just fine in the NBA game.
OK, that's good to know.

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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605
I'd like to think that, given last years framerate troubles, they wouldn't have added anything that they thought would cause them further trouble in that area. We'll see how it works out soon enough, I guess.
Like you, I have no programming experience, which is why I ask this question:

Is poor framerate the cause of all of the stuttering and stammering in 2K8, e.g. the hang-ups when they throw the ball around the horn, the pause just as the ball is hit and the camera switches from batter view to fielding view?
 
# 114 brendanrfoley @ 02/12/09 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mwjr
Is poor framerate the cause of all of the stuttering and stammering in 2K8, e.g. the hang-ups when they throw the ball around the horn, the pause just as the ball is hit and the camera switches from batter view to fielding view?
Yes.

The graphics engine in 2K8 tries to do too much and is, I would imagine, poorly coded. The hardware can't keep up with everything it's being asked to do and it "stutters."

Some of the underlying animation in 2K8 is actually beautiful - it was just difficult to see it.
 
# 115 bigfnjoe96 @ 02/12/09 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mwjr
Like you, I have no programming experience, which is why I ask this question:

Is poor framerate the cause of all of the stuttering and stammering in 2K8, e.g. the hang-ups when they throw the ball around the horn, the pause just as the ball is hit and the camera switches from batter view to fielding view?
YES.
 
# 116 nefanman @ 02/12/09 01:46 PM
I am a PS3 owner and was (yes I said was) a former 2k homer. I loved the swing stick and a lot of the features. In my opinion 2k7 was a beautiful game on the PS3. Last years game was just plain bad, I did not enjoy it at all. I ended up playing for a couple of months and ultimitely sold on eBay and picked up The Show.

I am hooked on the Show, and personally if I didn't have a PS3, I would buy one just for this game. Best sports game out there....ever!!! With that being said I am looking forward to playing the 2k demo after looking at some of the screen shots and doing some reading.

Sorry if you have no options (x-boxers)
 
# 117 SoxFan01605 @ 02/12/09 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nefanman
I am a PS3 owner and was (yes I said was) a former 2k homer. I loved the swing stick and a lot of the features. In my opinion 2k7 was a beautiful game on the PS3. Last years game was just plain bad, I did not enjoy it at all. I ended up playing for a couple of months and ultimitely sold on eBay and picked up The Show.

I am hooked on the Show, and personally if I didn't have a PS3, I would buy one just for this game. Best sports game out there....ever!!! With that being said I am looking forward to playing the 2k demo after looking at some of the screen shots and doing some reading.

Sorry if you have no options (x-boxers)
lol...I wonder if you would go into a cancer ward and say "well, I used to have cancer and it sucked, lucky for me I was cured. Sucks for you that you still have it though."

Sorry...j/k...but the post comes off as mainly hype for The Show
 
# 118 nefanman @ 02/12/09 03:45 PM
lol...I wonder if you would go into a cancer ward and say "well, I used to have cancer and it sucked, lucky for me I was cured. Sucks for you that you still have it though."

Again, my condolences to you and your x-box
 
# 119 jeffy777 @ 02/12/09 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nefanman
Again, my condolences to you and your x-box
Please stop being a troll.
 
# 120 SoxFan01605 @ 02/12/09 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nefanman
lol...I wonder if you would go into a cancer ward and say "well, I used to have cancer and it sucked, lucky for me I was cured. Sucks for you that you still have it though."

Again, my condolences to you and your x-box

Point proven...and you're very attentive too, I see. Those would be Show pictures in my sig and a PSN link to the left with my profile. I wonder why that is...hmm...lol. So my Xbox and I are fine. As are my PS3 and I. Thanks for your "concern" though...lol.

4 posts in and sounding like a winner...well done!
 


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