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Five Defensive Tips for NBA Live 09

As a seasoned veteran of the NBA 2K series the last 9 years, it should come as no surprise that learning how to play NBA Live 09 was a bit of a struggle. As many of you know, Live 09's control scheme takes some getting used to, and is a completely new experience to many, even those who have played the Live series in the past. The biggest struggles I faced early on during my gameplay experience dealt with the defensive side of the ball. I figured I would put together some quick tips to help with defense, and hopefully help some of you out that are still having a tough time keeping opponents from lighting you up. Without further delay, here are my five keys to playing successful defense in NBA Live 09.

1. Play the NBA Academy Mini-Games

I know this sounds like a complete no-brainer, but these mini-games are critical to understanding how Live 09 handles the defensive side of the ball. Within the Academy you will be given quick (and challenging) tutorials on how to properly box out for defensive rebounds, how to time your jumps for blocking shots, how to shadow an offensive ball handler, and how to counter an offensive player's "quickstrike anklebreakers." If you are new to the series, or struggling at all on the defensive side of the ball, I highly recommend spending an hour in the Academy fine tuning your defensive skills. As someone completely new to the series, I couldn't understand why the opposing offense was lighting me up and blowing past me on every possession for uncontested jumpers and layups. After I spent some time in the Academy figuring out what each button did, and how to use all the defensive tools available to me, I was able to not only play better D, but also figure out more intricacies of the defensive game.

2. Learn and Get Used To Your Players' Momentum and Movements

Live 09 does an excellent job replicating player momentum and movement. You will immediately notice a difference when playing defense with a guy like Chris Paul versus a guy like Shaq or Yao. It is extremely important to learn how players move and also how to gauge their momentum when trying to make a play. Through my personal experience, I have found that it is best to move the left stick very gently when playing defense. If you jam on the left stick with large movements (i.e. a quick motion from all the way down to all the way up), your player will move just as fast, with his momentum carrying him out of control at times. If you stay in control of your movements, and move the stick in smaller intervals, you will be able to gain more control over your defensive fronting.

When jumping for a rebound, or attempting a block, the momentum system also comes into play. Make sure that you understand your player must gather his momentum before jumping for the ball/block. Many people misinterpret this "gather" as some sort of lag/delay with the game -- this is not the case. When you are anticipating a rebound pay close attention to the player you are controlling, and how he reacts when jumping. Certain players will leap quicker (Kobe), and others will take some time to gather momentum (Ben Wallace). Good jumping technique is all about paying attention to the arc of the ball off the rim on a rebound, or the body position of an offensive player shooting the ball when going for a block. If you can nail the timing of the momentum-gather process on a player-by-player basis, you will be grabbing rebounds and blocking shots like a pro.

Boxing out is CRITICAL in this game. I have never played a hoops title before that really makes you pay attention to boxing out, and proper body positioning on rebounds. Make sure you experiment in the Academy on properly controlling your player’s body movements in the defensive post. It is very important you learn how to back into an offensive player down low in order to get better position than him on the box out. This takes some getting used to, and you have to baby the left stick to be good at it, but once you figure out how to box out consistently you will be a beast on the boards.

 


What you don't want to do, is just sit around and allow lay-ups all day.

3. Do Not "SPAM" the Turbo Button

This is probably one of the most important strategies for being successful on D in Live 09, and directly correlates with player momentum and movement as noted above. Due to the momentum system of the game, the turbo button that can give your player that extra boost you need can also quickly take you out of good defensive position. The single worst thing you can do when playing man-to-man defense on an opponent is hold down the turbo button while you shadow that player. The turbo button instantly adds more power/emphasis on every movement you make (this is the definition of turbo after all). The problem as I stated above is that your player's momentum is key to achieving successful body positioning on defense. The turbo button should only be used when trying to get back quickly on defense, or to run after a man who has an open look. Do not, I repeat do not, constantly hold the turbo button down the entire time you play defense. As a 2K vet this was a tough lesson to learn. I was so used to holding my turbo button while I was manning up my defender that it had almost become second nature to hold the trigger while playing a basketball title. I was frequently finding myself losing control of my defender, and getting burned for easy points.

Turbo also needs to be understood in terms of how it makes your player jump. When you hold turbo down it takes longer for your player to jump into the air. Combining turbo and jump makes your player gather for an instant longer to make a higher/more aggressive jump at the ball. Most of the time if you use this strategy to go up for a rebound you will find your player fly out of position for the ball because turbo is modifying the aggressiveness of the board attempt. To be successful on the boards make sure you learn to box out and then go up for the board without spamming your turbo. Only use your turbo button when attempting to jump out at an open shooter, or going for an aggressive block attempt on a dunk/layup.

The moral of the story is that turbo gives you a boost but also takes control away from your player -- use it wisely.

4. Know How and When to Use "Defense Assist"

OK, this is perhaps the biggest change between Live and 2K on the defensive end, and took the most getting used to. You need to understand that the Left Trigger (L2 for you PS3 people out there) is not a defensive "face up" button like it has been for so many years in basketball games. The button is used for what is called "'defensive assist," which is the equivalent of the computer making sure you find the player you're defending, and also square him up. Once you square your man up however, the game takes over playing defense for you and will subtly move your player. On paper this sounds a lot like "lock on defense" from the 2K series, but on the court it is very different. Instead of locking onto an offensive player like in NBA 2K9, defense assist simply gravitates your player to the general direction of his defender. It is more a feature for casual players who have a hard time figuring out who they should be defending. If you are one of these players, and you get lost on the defensive side of the ball, simply pull the L Trigger, and voila you will gravitate toward your mark.

This feature can cause a lot of problems for people (myself included) who think it functions as a 2K-like face up button. The problem is that if you hold the defense assist button down and try to play D like in a 2K game, you completely lose control of your player. You will be trying to strafe with the offensive player, and the game will be trying to pull you in a different direction attempting to simply gravitate toward your man. It is difficult to explain in writing, but those of you who have played the game know what I am talking about. It almost feels like you are trying to fight the computer's magnetic controls in order to play defense and the game gets frustrating. I was so discouraged when I first played the game (before I figured out not to hold the button down the entire time on D), that I thought the game was brokenon defense. Once I figured out the actual use of the button I found myself in complete control of my defender, instead of feeling like the computer was controlling me.

Defense assist is useful, however. I use it in spurts, whenever I need to quickly face up to a defender during half-court sets, and even use it if I lose my man on a fast break to try to recover. The key to using the feature is to pull it in quick spurts, not hold it down for an entire possession. If you want to face up to an opponent, make sure you hold down on the right stick, and shuffle with your man using the left stick. Also know that you can use the defensive assist along with flicking the right stick up or down, to set your man to guard tight or loose respectively. I haven't found the system as useful as playing man D without the assist, but the option is there for you to play with.

 


Knowing when to lock down is probably a good thing to figure out to keep easy buckets out of the equation.

5. Know When To Use "Lock on D"

One of Live 09's cooler features is “lock on defense." This is basically a hybrid of the old March Madness series' lock on control, and 2K's lock on control (but hands down better than both in my opinion). With this feature you simply man up the ball handler, and use the left stick to body him up. Once you are locked on you must move your left stick in unison with his movements or else you will get burned (resulting in a made shot 90 percent of the time). The feature is all about risk/reward, and is very fun to use. For those who do not know how to use the feature though, I can see it becoming a very frustrating situation, even leading some to stop playing the game.

The key to being successful with this feature is to know that it is a HUGE gamble to use. Unlike 2K's lock on defense, you DO NOT need to use the feature in Live to be successful. Before you even attempt to lock on to a player you need to answer two questions: How good is my controlled player at playing defense; and how good of a dribble penetrator is the guy I am about to lock onto? These two questions are critical to being successful while using the lock on feature. You really have to use strategy and know the NBA to make good use of the feature. I think it's great to finally have this type of risk/reward defensive feature in a hoops game. 2K's lock on defense allows anyone to lock on to any other player. Sure, the lock can be broken on offense, but it doesn't seem as player dependent or as risky to lock on like it does in Live. You are not going to lock down Chris Paul with Chris Quinn in Live 09, so why even try. Now if you have Ron Artest locking down Wally Szczerbiak, you may be onto something. During an average game I probably find myself completely locking down a player three or four times. Like I said, this feature is not necessary to be successful on D.

It is also important to understand how to utilize the lock on D. You need to understand that you can disengage at any time once you have engaged -- simply pull away from your mark. I have found a ton of success in quickly locking onto my man to pester him, and then disengaging before he makes a move. It seems that this causes the opponent to pass the ball a good percentage of the time, and forces the other team into setting up another play. If you do find yourself being beat off the dribble by a better offensive player, disengage immediately and try to front your defender using the other techniques mentioned in this article. You can also call for a quick double team by holding down the B or circle button.


So there you have it, my five keys to playing successful defense in NBA Live 09. I know the game feels completely different on defense, and takes some time to learn, but once you do, Live 09 is one of the most rewarding hoops games I have played in my 20-plus year gaming career. Feel free to add your own tips to the comments section of this article, and hopefully we can pull together an all-inclusive defensive guide for Live 09.


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# 1 23 @ 10/14/08 02:39 PM
This is stuff we've basically been telling people the last few days.

EA's system is not 2k's and most of us 2k players will have to unlearn the usual way of playing defense to understand this one, and once you do, you discover that its so much better.

Da_Czar from seeing one video said he thought EA's defensive system was much better than 2k's, and from whatever it was he saw, Im a believer in his keen eye for the game.

This system breaks you from being lazy, and makes you play defense as if you were on the court. You have to move your feet, carefully shade the ball handler, square up, take your speed into account , and if you over gamble well you get burned just like you would in the real NBA

I dont care what lies people tell, this game is onto something with a good balance, and thats just the truth.
 
# 2 23 @ 10/14/08 02:41 PM
BTW, great writeup

I would absolutely love to help design a defensive guide with some of you fellas if its wanted/needed
 
# 3 sportyguyfl31 @ 10/14/08 02:43 PM
very very good. Also, the right stick acts as a defensive crouch if I am not mistaken. but doesnt seem to be necessary. I find the player I am squaring up with seems to stay in that defensive position on his own? or am i just imagining that?
 
# 4 sportyguyfl31 @ 10/14/08 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KDRE_OS
BTW, great writeup

I would absolutely love to help design a defensive guide with some of you fellas if its wanted/needed

I was thinking of putting together some EA Sportsworld clips of some onball defensive sequences vs the CPU.
 
# 5 23 @ 10/14/08 03:02 PM
I wish they would allow more than just five videos at a time

I dont have recording equipment like some of these fellas do.

Maybe Da_Czar will do something but I wouldnt put all that on him

He touched on alot of the same things we were already saying which is a good thing.

EA should've advertised and talked about alot of things in this game but they didnt. Its great though that you have to learn how to be a defender to succeed.

All I know is you cannot run in circles and around the court and score 50 with one player in Live 09
 
# 6 Bumble14 @ 10/14/08 03:57 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys- keep adding any helpful hints. I'm hoping that by writing this article I can get the word out that Live is not "glitched" or "broken" on defense, it is just very deep and takes practice to master.

This being my first Live game since 99, I am EXTREMELY impressed with how it plays, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Once I figured out the basics via the academy and got the 2K out of my system, I was loving playing D on this game.

This game as a whole deserves a good look if you are a hardcore hoops gamer- especially if, like me, feel that the 2K series is feeling a bit stale.
 
# 7 Chairman7w @ 10/14/08 07:07 PM
Fantastic article - thanks so much for your good work here. But I wish you had just emailed me these details privately, now everyone will know how to do this!
 
# 8 edubbs @ 10/14/08 07:14 PM
Any tips on trying to defend in the post? Everytime I try to lock on to a offensive player down low, I end up sliding all over the place.

Playing post defense manually seems to be really broken in this game.
 
# 9 Ballatician @ 10/14/08 07:19 PM
Didn't even know about the defensive assist button. Great article
 
# 10 23 @ 10/14/08 07:25 PM
Stop holding on to the face up button and using it as a crutch. Give yourself enough room to anticipate his shot but not enough where he can just drive right by you if he turns.

You can body him up then move back real quick (with good timing) to not give him the feel that you're just playing on side of his body

Also let the CPU do it sometimes and you come over as the help man. You wont always swat the shot but you do get your share of making him adjust his shot where he wont make em all.
 
# 11 Pared @ 10/14/08 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by edubbs
Any tips on trying to defend in the post? Everytime I try to lock on to a offensive player down low, I end up sliding all over the place.

Playing post defense manually seems to be really broken in this game.
It's not broken, just pretty much non-existent outside of being able to body-up and stop a player from spinning in one direction in the post.

There are too many fundamental flaws in defense in this game. Defense in its current form is passable but there really needs to be work done in this area for next year.

It's not all bad but there's HUGE room for improvement, especially in the post.
 
# 12 kwas676 @ 10/14/08 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TopCop7980
Heres a defensive tip...stop buying crap EA games...Get NBA 2k9!!
You know what man if you dont like the game why are you wasting your time here.
 
# 13 23bluesman @ 10/14/08 11:33 PM
Yeah this is a great article, and if I didn't know any better I would've thought that KDRE wrote this, lol.

Anyway, it's good to see that a lot of people are seeing how good the defense is in this game. Not great, because it needs improvement in some areas (as everything in video game basketball does), but pretty darn good.
 
# 14 Bumble14 @ 10/15/08 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pared
It's not broken, just pretty much non-existent outside of being able to body-up and stop a player from spinning in one direction in the post.

There are too many fundamental flaws in defense in this game. Defense in its current form is passable but there really needs to be work done in this area for next year.

It's not all bad but there's HUGE room for improvement, especially in the post.
Pared, I completely disasgree with you on post defense. Post defense is challenging, but if you actually hit the NBA Academy and practice it you will start to realize you have more weapons available to you other than just a body up and spin stop.

The first thing you have to realize when playing in the post is take your finger off the defense assist button. This will cause you to be out of position 99% of the time when the offensive player makes his move. The second thing you have to learn to use is small movements on the left stick once you are engaged- stop jerking the stick in big motions back and forth-slow and steady will allow you to shadow your man and anticipate his moves.

The third and MOST IMPORTANT skill you need to learn on post defense in this game is about "tapping" the Y or Triangle jump button. What people don't seem to get is that if you are in good position in the post, and anticipate an offensive move, not only can you man up on the offensive player, but you can actually perform several defensive swats by tapping the jump button once (very light tap). I have been able to slap the ball out of the defenders hands when they try to make a move, block the ball just enough without going for the full jump to negate the shot, and also initiate enough body contact to make the offensive player adjust their shot and fall down.

If you "jam" on the jump button hard, or use turbo, your character will gather momentum to make a big jump. If you tap jump, depending on your body momentum and movement with the left stick, your player will make a less pronounced attempt to make a play on the ball.

Defense in this game is not broken, and does not need work as many of you claim. I will repeat this as I did in my article, if you play this game defensively like 2K basketball, you will fail. Live 09 has an extremely deep defensive skill set that is easy to play once you learn the buttons, but difficult to master. People who attempt to use the 2K controller style to play this game are simply going to complain that the game is broken- much like I did the first couple hours with it. It is pretty difficult to adjust to the fact that you can not spam a button and automatically play good defense like in the 2K games- Live makes you work with your left stick and buttons if you want to be successful. If you really want to learn this game, put 2K down for a few days, erase what that game has taught you, and completely relearn how you play hoops defense.
 
# 15 23bluesman @ 10/15/08 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumble14
Pared, I completely disasgree with you on post defense. Post defense is challenging, but if you actually hit the NBA Academy and practice it you will start to realize you have more weapons available to you other than just a body up and spin stop.

The first thing you have to realize when playing in the post is take your finger off the defense assist button. This will cause you to be out of position 99% of the time when the offensive player makes his move. The second thing you have to learn to use is small movements on the left stick once you are engaged- stop jerking the stick in big motions back and forth-slow and steady will allow you to shadow your man and anticipate his moves.

The third and MOST IMPORTANT skill you need to learn on post defense in this game is about "tapping" the Y or Triangle jump button. What people don't seem to get is that if you are in good position in the post, and anticipate an offensive move, not only can you man up on the offensive player, but you can actually perform several defensive swats by tapping the jump button once (very light tap). I have been able to slap the ball out of the defenders hands when they try to make a move, block the ball just enough without going for the full jump to negate the shot, and also initiate enough body contact to make the offensive player adjust their shot and fall down.

If you "jam" on the jump button hard, or use turbo, your character will gather momentum to make a big jump. If you tap jump, depending on your body momentum and movement with the left stick, your player will make a less pronounced attempt to make a play on the ball.

Defense in this game is not broken, and does not need work as many of you claim. I will repeat this as I did in my article, if you play this game defensively like 2K basketball, you will fail. Live 09 has an extremely deep defensive skill set that is easy to play once you learn the buttons, but difficult to master. People who attempt to use the 2K controller style to play this game are simply going to complain that the game is broken- much like I did the first couple hours with it. It is pretty difficult to adjust to the fact that you can not spam a button and automatically play good defense like in the 2K games- Live makes you work with your left stick and buttons if you want to be successful. If you really want to learn this game, put 2K down for a few days, erase what that game has taught you, and completely relearn how you play hoops defense.
Thanks, I'll try this out the next time I play. Interesting stuff to say the least. Hey, maybe you and KDRE can collaborate to do the defensive thread?
 
# 16 Pared @ 10/15/08 10:46 AM
I'll give the "swat" thing a shot, but I still have not seen that, especially from the computer. Not calling you a liar, just saying it must be very rare.

However, I still stand by my point in that there is more that can be done with the post. Play an online game and watch people dominate in the paint. You're more than welcome to hop online and join the fray. Just ask blueandgold; Inside is pretty much money.

This was pointed out at the community day. Like I said, it's a good start but there needs to more depth to the system. Defense will most likely be the "big thing" next year and it will be welcomed with open arms.
 
# 17 sportyguyfl31 @ 10/15/08 10:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pared
It's not broken, just pretty much non-existent outside of being able to body-up and stop a player from spinning in one direction in the post.

There are too many fundamental flaws in defense in this game. Defense in its current form is passable but there really needs to be work done in this area for next year.

It's not all bad but there's HUGE room for improvement, especially in the post.

I disagree, but I confess I felt the same way when I started playing. When I get home, I'm going to post some clips of defensive stops.

You can feel pretty much in total control over a lot of what is going if you understand the controls, who you have, and who you are guarding.

Playing defense with my knicks isnt the same as playing defense with the spurs. I love playing defense with that team.

Also, dont forget that the right stick is a defense crouch stance, and will help you keep good position.
 
# 18 Pared @ 10/15/08 11:37 AM
I'd love to see this in action. Looking forward to the clips.
 
# 19 Bumble14 @ 10/15/08 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pared
I'll give the "swat" thing a shot, but I still have not seen that, especially from the computer. Not calling you a liar, just saying it must be very rare.

However, I still stand by my point in that there is more that can be done with the post. Play an online game and watch people dominate in the paint. You're more than welcome to hop online and join the fray. Just ask blueandgold; Inside is pretty much money.

This was pointed out at the community day. Like I said, it's a good start but there needs to more depth to the system. Defense will most likely be the "big thing" next year and it will be welcomed with open arms.
No worries Pared, I know you weren't calling me a liar.

You have to tap the jump button really quickly while anticipating the players move. You have to have perfect timing for the different swat animations. It's not that hard once you get used to it- I went after all the Academy challenges on Superstar the other night and this is where I learned the ins and outs of the inside game.

Another big tip when playing down low is that each player seems to have their own individual skill set (AWESOME addition by EA). Guys like DHoward and Amare are more explosive and can block shots easier. A guy like Shaq is not as explosive and to be successful with him you need to use the body and use better timing to block shots. Oden is very long, so it takes much less effort on the sticks and buttons to get into successful position downlow. Finally, a guy like Chris Kaman needs to rely on swats and perfect positioning (tap jump while moving stick correctly) because he is not that explosive as a blocker.

I have really found that you MUST pay attention to who you are defending with in order to be successful, and to use that guys move set to lock down in the post. You can gamble more with the Amare types because it seems easier to recover for the block. With a guy like Kaman you have to play sound positionally and go for knock aways.

As far as online goes, you can stop a player in the paint, you just need to make adjustments. If a guy is killing you downlow online, switch your defensive settings to "tight" on the man, and then turn on the double team. I'm not saying you will shut the guy out, but it will help. Look at it this way- it is pretty realistic- a guy like Shaq is (was) a force downlow where you have to make adjustments to stop him. You are not going to stop Tim Duncan in the post with a scubby defender.

Play the Academy, bump it up to Superstar, get frustrated to the point where you want to throw the controller through your LCD, then suddenly it will all click about 30 minutes in. This is how I learned, and the strategies actually work. I'll try to get some sportsworld vids up in the next week so you guys can see the moves in action (wish you could take academy vids, it'd be easier to point out the button moves). Just be patient, good post D is possible.
 
# 20 23 @ 10/15/08 12:14 PM
I've seen that swat thing by accident a few times and each time it was an accident

That said, i don't feel helpless in the post and have pretty much had a mixed bag, sometimes the CPU takes advantage of my mistakes when I get laxed, and others I either alter the shots or block them with success.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble14
Finally, a guy like Chris Kaman needs to rely on swats and perfect positioning (tap jump while moving stick correctly) because he is not that explosive as a blocker.

I have really found that you MUST pay attention to who you are defending with in order to be successful, and to use that guys move set to lock down in the post. You can gamble more with the Amare types because it seems easier to recover for the block. With a guy like Kaman you have to play sound positionally and go for knock aways.
Agreed, check the video thread to see the Kaman timing block/swat on Al Harrington that I posted.

What's funny is how Steve Kerr even commented on how long Josh Smith is and how its easier for him to block shots becasue of it. You do really feel the difference in players on both sides of the ball.

Sometimes defense requires the best positioning and that becomes a chess match to see who can make the other player do something he doesn't want to do. You can definitely throw a post player off and make him force a shot, or adjust his shot for the fear of getting it blocked. The computer actually does that..lol I did it to KG last night.

I said it once and will again, this is not your typical way of playing defense that we're used to. The footplanting, the timing, the momentum system and the should I or should I not use the sprint button all comes into play.
 

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