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Top 10 Players at Each Position in MLB The Show 17

Top 10 Starting Pitchers

  • Clayton Kershaw – Overall 99
  • Max Scherzer – Overall 93
  • Chris Sale – Overall 93
  • Noah Syndergaard – Overall 92
  • Corey Kluber – Overall 92
  • Jake Arrieta – Overall 92
  • Madison Bumgarner – Overall 92
  • Stephen Strasburg – Overall 90
  • Jon Lester – Overall 90
  • Johnny Cueto – Overall 90

Top 10 Relievers

  • Andrew Miller – Overall 96
  • Dellin Betances – Overall 90
  • Nate Jones – Overall 85
  • Sean Doolittle – Overall 84
  • Addison Reed – Overall 84
  • Hector Rondon – Overall 84
  • Pedro Strop – Overall 84
  • Will Harris – Overall 84
  • Carson Smith – Overall 84
  • Kyle Barraclough – Overall 84

Top 10 Closers

  • Kenley Jansen – Overall 95
  • Zach Britton – Overall 92
  • Aroldis Chapman – Overall 92
  • Wade Davis – Overall 91
  • Mark Melancon – Overall 89
  • Seung Hwan Oh – Overall 87
  • Cody Allen – Overall 87
  • Roberto Osuna – Overall 86
  • Craig Kimbrel – Overall 86
  • Jeurys Familia – Overall 85

Top 10 Catchers

  • Buster Posey – Overall 92
  • Jonathan Lucroy – Overall 87
  • Wilson Ramos – Overall 84
  • Yadier Molina – Overall 84
  • Salvador Perez – Overall 84
  • Gary Sanchez – Overall 84
  • Russell Martin – Overall 83
  • Yasmani Grandal – Overall 82
  • Devin Mesoraco – Overall 82
  • Matt Wieters – Overall 81

Top 10 First Basemen

  • Miguel Cabrera – Overall 92
  • Paul Goldschmidt – Overall 91
  • Joey Votto – Overall 91
  • Anthony Rizzo – Overall 89
  • Freddie Freeman – Overall 88
  • Edwin Encarnacion – Overall 86
  • Matt Carpenter – Overall 85
  • Will Myers – Overall 84
  • Brandon Belt – Overall 84
  • Albert Pujols – Overall 83

Top 10 Second Basemen

  • Jose Altuve – Overall 97
  • Robinson Cano – Overall 91
  • Ian Kinsler – Overall 89
  • Daniel Murphy – Overall 88
  • Dustin Pedroia – Overall 88
  • Jason Kipnis – Overall 87
  • Brian Dozier – Overall 87
  • DJ LeMahieu – Overall 85
  • Ben Zobrist – Overall 85
  • Rougned Odor – Overall 84

Top 10 Third Basemen

  • Josh Donaldson – Overall 94
  • Kris Bryant – Overall 94
  • Nolan Arenado – Overall 93
  • Manny Machado – Overall 93
  • Adrian Beltre – Overall 89
  • Kyle Seager – Overall 88
  • Justin Turner – Overall 87
  • Evan Longoria – Overall 87
  • Anthoy Rendon – Overall 83
  • Todd Frazier – Overall 83

Top 10 Shortstops

  • Francisco Lindor – Overall 90
  • Corey Seager – Overall 90
  • Trea Turner – Overall 88
  • Brandon Crawford – Overall 88
  • Carlos Correa – Overall 85
  • Xander Bogaerts – Overall 85
  • Jonathan Villar – Overall 85
  • Troy Tulowitzki – Overall 83
  • Jean Segura – Overall 83
  • Jose Iglesias – Overall 83

Top 10 Left Fielders

  • Yoenis Cespedes – Overall 90
  • Ryan Braun – Overall 87
  • Michael Brantley – Overall 86
  • Alex Gordon – Overall 83
  • Gregory Polanco – Overall 83
  • Justin Upton – Overall 82
  • Khris Davis – Overall 81
  • Brett Gardner – Overall 81
  • Marcell Ozuna – Overall 81
  • Jayson Werth – Overall 80

Top 10 Center Fielders

  • Mike Trout – Overall 99
  • Starling Marte – Overall 87
  • AJ Pollack – Overall 86
  • Lorenzo Cain – Overall 85
  • Christian Yelich – Overall 85
  • Charlie Blackmon – Overall 84
  • George Springer – Overall 84
  • Kevin Kiermaier – Overall 84
  • Odubel Herrera – Overall 82
  • Carlos Gomez – Overall 82

Top 10 Right Fielders

  • Mookie Betts – Overall 93
  • Bryce Harper – Overall 90
  • Nelson Cruz – Overall 88
  • Giancarlo Stanton – Overall 88
  • Andew McCutchen – Overall 85
  • Carlos Gonzalez – Overall 84
  • JD Martinez – Overall 84
  • Jose Bautista – Overall 83
  • Mark Trumbo – Overall 81
  • Hunter Pence – Overall 81

Top Overall Players

  • Mike Trout – Overall 99
  • Clayton Kershaw – Overall 99
  • Jose Altuve – Overall 97
  • Andrew Miller – Overall 96
  • Kenley Jansen – Overall 95
  • Josh Donaldson – Overall 94
  • Kris Bryant – Overall 94
  • Max Scherzer – Overall 93
  • Nolan Arenado – Overall 93
  • Manny Machado – Overall 93
  • Chris Sale – Overall 93
  • Mookie Betts – Overall 93
  • Noah Syndergaard – Overall 92
  • Corey Kluber – Overall 92
  • Jake Arrieta – Overall 92
  • Zach Britton – Overall 92
  • Miguel Cabrera – Overall 92
  • Madison Bumgarner – Overall 92

Member Comments
# 41 Speedy @ 03/17/17 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdipper88
Kershaw has been shown and has scan. Trout does not have a face scan
I don't believe this is an accurate statement.
 
# 42 Nero84 @ 03/17/17 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy
I don't believe this is an accurate statement.
Pretty sure it is.
 
# 43 The Kid 24 @ 03/17/17 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nero84
Pretty sure it is.
Ramone asked Lorne about Trout's facescan during the stream... Did Lorne respond?
 
# 44 TheBigTee @ 03/17/17 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolenz
But would they be a 99 easily at 2B? Things like power are probably not weighted nearly as highly for a 2B as say speed or fielding are.


I am not saying that they would not be 99's at 2B but I don't think we can make that assumption. We just don't have enough info on how much they weight different stats for different positions.


That's a fair point and you might be right. All I was trying to say was you can't compare different positions based on overall in The Show. Just because Altuve is higher rated overall than Bryant does not mean that he is "better".


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# 45 MetsFan16 @ 03/17/17 02:31 PM
Why weren't they able to show Trout and Bryant? As soon as they went to replay in the Cubs game they didn't show him, and in the Market they quickly passed over Trout.


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# 46 thawkprime 21 @ 03/17/17 02:39 PM
omg some of the best players won't be in the game. Did they turn into Barry Bonds and become to awsome to be in video games. We should all donate thousands to roster makers so that they can work full time on rosters and not real jobs.
 
# 47 Dolenz @ 03/17/17 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigTee
That's a fair point and you might be right. All I was trying to say was you can't compare different positions based on overall in The Show. Just because Altuve is higher rated overall than Bryant does not mean that he is "better".


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I agree, which is why the top 20 players overall is kind of a misleading title to that final grouping. Yes, they have the highest overall ratings in the game but those overall scores are not calculated the same. There are as many different rating scales as there are positions that are represented in that list.
 
# 48 1908_Cubs @ 03/17/17 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by eric7064
He should have one, if not 2. All around I would take Arenado over Donaldson every day of the week. Arenado is so underated among baseball people.
Arrenado wasn't even a top-5 3b last season according to fWAR. He is not underrated. He's a very good 5-6 win player. But Bryant is the best position player not named Trout and Donaldson is still a 2 win better player.

I like Nolan. You're overrating a very good player.
 
# 49 The JareBear @ 03/17/17 05:03 PM
Man I CAN'T WAIT to start my Rockies franchise this year!

Gonna be MASHING with my boys

And getting MASHED with my bullpen lol
 
# 50 underdog13 @ 03/17/17 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
Bryant isnt even the best 3B on his team. If he was, he wouldn't be splitting his time in the outfield.
That was because Schwarber was injuried.
 
# 51 underdog13 @ 03/17/17 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
With Dahl hurt you don't see Arenado shagging balls in left...
Because then who would the Rockies play at 3rd?

Nobody is saying Bryant is a better fielding 3rd basemen. But he is an overall better third basemen.

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# 52 douggoud @ 03/17/17 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nero84
Why do you think Ramone didn't want to show Trout or Kershaw? Possible that another baseball game is in the works from another studio with Kershaw and Trout signed up as the faces? Seemed very odd that he said they couldn't show them and also couldn't say why he couldn't show them.
They sort of showed Trout during the jersey part of the stream 2 or 3 weeks ago since he was the "jersey model" the game picked and I'll be honest with you his face looked a lot better than last year. Not sure if he has a face scan but it looked a ton more like him. And they already showed off Kershaws face in the comparisons thing they did about a month ago, so I wouldn't dig that much into it honestly.
 
# 53 Speedy @ 03/17/17 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nero84
Pretty sure it is.
I thought I saw a face scan of him earlier, you're right.

They did show off Kershaw back in early Februrary I believe...he looks great.
 
# 54 bigdipper88 @ 03/17/17 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by douggoud
They sort of showed Trout during the jersey part of the stream 2 or 3 weeks ago since he was the "jersey model" the game picked and I'll be honest with you his face looked a lot better than last year. Not sure if he has a face scan but it looked a ton more like him. And they already showed off Kershaws face in the comparisons thing they did about a month ago, so I wouldn't dig that much into it honestly.
Trout hasn't had a face scan since he debuted in The Show. Same with Todd Frazier
 
# 55 underdog13 @ 03/17/17 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
The best player on the field, Nolan Arenado. It is super easy to replace a LF.

Bryant is not a better 3B. He may be a better overall athlete than Arenado but he is not a better 3B.
Bryant is a better hitter and baserunner, Arenado is a better fielder. Bryant has accumulated more war over the past 2 seasons. He won mvp last year. How is he not a better 3B?

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# 56 Speedy @ 03/17/17 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
Bryant is not a better 3B. He may be a better overall athlete than Arenado but he is not a better 3B.
Bryant has an fWAR 3.2 above Arenado.

Opinion <> fact.

I love Arenado and would love him on my team...but not above Kris Bryant.
 
# 57 underdog13 @ 03/17/17 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
He has not acquired more WAR at 3B... Last season was somewhere around the 3.8-4.2 range in 107 games at 3B....

And a lot of people think being the better fielder would make you a better 3B... Bryant may be a better hitter but he most certainly is not the better 3B.

I am going to ask a question, and it is going to come off ****ty but there is no other way to ask. I am not meaning it ****ty, I am just asking. Have you ever watched Arenado or do you watch him consistently? A lot of people outside of the Denver market scream "But COOOOOOOOOOOOOORS" and ignore most everything Rockies. Nolan makes plays that literally drop you jaw almost every game. He is incredible. I would never call the Cubs a favorite but I watched a lot of their games last year as I am a huge Dexter Fowler fan and there is no doubt Bryant is an incredible ALL AROUND player but he cannot make a lot of the plays Arenado does. Truthfully, Machado is the only other 3B in the game on Arenados level in my opinion. Bryant is 3rd followed by Donaldson.
I've seen some sick highlight fielding plays by Arenado. But no I don't watch him constantly. It seems to me that you are punishing Bryant because he has played lf,cf,1b.

And yeah Coors is a big deal and his away splits were very underwealming. And considering Bryant is an above average third basemen, I'm going to take the guy who is a better hitter.

I think we just disagree on what we value at 3rd.

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# 58 Speedy @ 03/17/17 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
Not at 3B he doesnt... He spent 1/3 of his defensive innings last season in LF. You can't say he is the best at 3B because his WAR is so much higher yet 1/3 of his season wasn't at 3B...
I'll stipulate that Bryant's WAR is a composite of both the OF and 3B but let's not act like it's inflating his stats, unlike Colorado is with Arenado. (see what I did there? ).

We'll agree to disagree...I think Arenado is a great player just like I think Freddie Freeman is a great player, whom I wouldn't have over any other 1B.

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Originally Posted by BDrizz
Also, not sure where you got 3.2 ABOVE Arenado as Nolan had 6.5 WAR last season and Bryant had 7.7 total WAR.... That is not 3.2...
Fangraphs.
 
# 59 estee1977 @ 03/17/17 06:03 PM
Arenado won the Silver Slugger award in 2015 and 2016 which goes to the best offensive player and is determined by coaches and managers in MLB. So that tells me how coaches and managers view his offensive skill. Couple that with the fact that he's won 4 straight Gold Gloves and was the Wilson Defensive Player of the Year in 2015 and 2016 as well. I don't know how you can't call him the best pure 3B in Baseball. Also, if you're going to use the Coors Field as a handicap, then any Rockies pitcher who wins 20 games should automatically win the Cy Young award, yes? Love this debate!
 
# 60 Speedy @ 03/17/17 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BDrizz
Do different agencies calculate WAR in different ways? The numbers I quoted are from Baseball Reference.
Yes, I don't get it either. It ought to be a universal statistic...even MLB Show has their own calculation.
 


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