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NBA Live 16 Makes Its Move Up the Ladder


Has there been a more polarizing sports game this year than EA’s most recent basketball title? Either people have really enjoyed the game or simply hated it, but very few have fallen in the middle. When Ben Vollmer initially reviewed NBA Live 16 here at Operation Sports, he gave the title a 6.0 out of 10, meaning the game was above average but far from a classic.

Some of the game's initial downfalls were no customization, average gameplay and poor commentary. While any review is subjective and only one person’s opinion, our review fell into line with what most thought. In addition to the shortcomings listed already, the game lacked proper animations, and many of the incoming rookies and lesser known players had generic created faces.

Now we are almost three months past release, and the game has received multiple patches and updates. But has it made that much of difference? In my opinion, I would say yes.



So what has improved you ask? For one, many of the faces have been implemented. Whether through actual scans or modified facial creations, most of the likeness issues have improved with varying degrees of approval. For instance, the third overall pick in the NBA Draft, Jahlil Okafor, now has a stunningly re-created in-game likeness. However, Nikola Mirotic (Bulls) looks more like the Cavs' Kevin Love than a true representation of his real-life counterpart. Still, most of the individuals look very good, or even great, which obviously helps with the reality factor.

While player likenesses are very important, if the on-court gameplay suffers, then the facial improvements mean very little. With that in mind, NBA Live’s most recent patch has addressed many of the game's shortcomings in the animation department, as well as focusing in on the inability to play interior defense. While I would not describe the gameplay as polished or on point as of yet, the improvements were quite noticeable for those who played the title prior to the patch.



Another area that has improved since release is the all-important rebounding department. Pre-patch it was not uncommon for the AI players to make little to no effort in trying to secure a rebound. Even worse, users would occasionally see a ball actually come to a full stop on the ground before any player made an attempt to secure it, which is obviously unacceptable. I would not go so far as to describe the rebounding in NBA Live as an area of strength, but it has improved quite a bit, and no longer do you feel the need to scream obscenities at the screen (unless you just like screaming obscenities at your screen just for kicks, which, hey, go for it).

So has NBA Live 16 improved enough to warrant a higher score? I would say yes, and if I were scoring the title today, I would argue the game has improved enough to warrant that uptick in score. It has taken steps forward in some key areas, and it still offers a huge amount of fun on the court. Be that as it may, NBA Live has a ways to go before it can be talked about as a title that is pushing for true authenticity and NBA realism in today's gaming landscape.


How has your experience been post-patch with NBA Live 16?

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Member Comments
# 1 jnb5001 @ 12/17/15 10:38 AM
Good read. I keep this game in my rotation
 
# 2 mrclutch @ 12/17/15 11:07 AM
Good read. So do you think the shooting has improved since launch?
 
# 3 seanhazz1 @ 12/17/15 11:20 AM
I think everything has improved since launch(on the court), with the exception of promoting the product effectively and the decreased interaction with the community. In a re-rating I think the game stands well on its own, and is in a good position to add more of the community requested content in the immediate future, or the next release.
 
# 4 DBMcGee3 @ 12/17/15 11:58 AM
I'm thinking about renting this one, as I currently have a slight case of 2k fatigue. I honestly wanted to buy Live this year for that very reason, but the demo was so awful that I couldn't talk myself into it.

Anyone want to give me some good selling points for the latest version of the game? Is it insane to think that I'd still enjoy Live after playing 2k for several years now?
 
# 5 GisherJohn24 @ 12/17/15 01:30 PM
I give the game a 7 right now. As a stand alone 5 on 5 bball game, it's definitely fun. If the game modes like Rewind and Moments worked properly I'd be willing to go 7.5. Kudos for EA trying even with the poor sales numbers.
 
# 6 GisherJohn24 @ 12/17/15 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBMcGee3
I'm thinking about renting this one, as I currently have a slight case of 2k fatigue. I honestly wanted to buy Live this year for that very reason, but the demo was so awful that I couldn't talk myself into it.

Anyone want to give me some good selling points for the latest version of the game? Is it insane to think that I'd still enjoy Live after playing 2k for several years now?
ProAm is definitely very fun and leveling up is quite a chore but I do enjoy it. The game plays smooth online and off. Patch 3 made the game much more enjoyable and defense is adequate. Great atmosphere and great looking. My only main gripe is nba rewind and big moments doesn't seem to be working
 
# 7 Behindshadows @ 12/17/15 03:34 PM
Game is $20 now on Xbox One on EA Access, that's worth the purchase...time to get more people online with it and doing pro-AM
 
# 8 RUFFNREADY @ 12/17/15 05:11 PM
I may just wait for it to go into the EA Access Vault, in a month or so.
cheers
 
# 9 Flightwhite24 @ 12/17/15 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFFNREADY
I may just wait for it to go into the EA Access Vault, in a month or so.

cheers

Doubt you will see this game in the vault in a month.


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# 10 sarlndr @ 12/17/15 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CAMPBLACKMAMBA24
Doubt you will see this game in the vault in a month.


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"In a month or so" doesn't mean an exact month.

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# 11 Walt Frazier @ 12/17/15 07:23 PM
Good article...


You probably missed THE most important change though...and that is the CPU's massively improved passing, as opposed to the initially released version where almost all cpu players simply charged the paint like a mad bull.

Now, they pass the ball around the perimeter, kick out, find the open man.

At release, there simoly was no mid range game. Literally, none. You could finish a game and check the shot chart and it was all three balls and paint shots.

Now, there is a nice mid range game...the cpu passes it around, pulls up, catches and shoots

That has been by far the biggest gameplay improvement post release imo.

I agree that something close to 7/10 is a fair score now.

The game still lacks a season or dynasty mode of any note. And rewind games simply don't work.

In one off games v the CPU it is almost worthy of an 8/10 now...in exhibition mode / one off games etc it is by far the best LIVE in a long, long time.

........but the overall lack of depth means a 6.5 to 7 out of ten is fair. It lacks anything close to the depth you would expect in a next gen sports game.
 
# 12 Calvenn @ 12/17/15 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier
Good article...


You probably missed THE most important change though...and that is the CPU's massively improved passing, as opposed to the initially released version where almost all cpu players simply charged the paint like a mad bull.

Now, they pass the ball around the perimeter, kick out, find the open man.

At release, there simoly was no mid range game. Literally, none. You could finish a game and check the shot chart and it was all three balls and paint shots.

Now, there is a nice mid range game...the cpu passes it around, pulls up, catches and shoots

That has been by far the biggest gameplay improvement post release imo.

I agree that something close to 7/10 is a fair score now.

The game still lacks a season or dynasty mode of any note. And rewind games simply don't work.

In one off games v the CPU it is almost worthy of an 8/10 now...in exhibition mode / one off games etc it is by far the best LIVE in a long, long time.

........but the overall lack of depth means a 6.5 to 7 out of ten is fair. It lacks anything close to the depth you would expect in a next gen sports game.

I agree that passing and the mid range game have improved quite noticeably and a surprising omission in an otherwise good ( and needed I should add) article that outlines the games recent progress. We can't score the game higher that a 7 or so in its current state in regards to depth of Dynasty and other modes. From a pure gameplay standpoint, we can score a bit higher, however, would truly like to see expanded player uniqueness, post game, etc, to push it to the top. They have laid a great foundation this year, can't say it enough!
 
# 13 Izzy Snow @ 12/17/15 08:36 PM
Once they add more animations especially in the post, refine the modes they have now especially dynasty, and add more control options, then the game can be an 8. Until then, it's about a 6-7.
 
# 14 striker3771 @ 12/17/15 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Behindshadows
Game is $20 now on Xbox One on EA Access, that's worth the purchase...time to get more people online with it and doing pro-AM
I have to give this another chance if it is $20 on Xbox One. Does anyone know if there has been an increase of people online? I'm an 100% online gamer.
 
# 15 Calvenn @ 12/17/15 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izzy Snow
Once they add more animations especially in the post, refine the modes they have now especially dynasty, and add more control options, then the game can be an 8. Until then, it's about a 6-7.
Welcome to the board!
 
# 16 Nemesis Enforcer @ 12/17/15 10:26 PM
I'd rate it's Pro-am alone a 9. Well worth $20.
 
# 17 zrohman @ 12/17/15 11:11 PM
Uhhh. I've only seen one patch. Go back in the thread history. One patch. It took them months just to add face scans and your praising them for it? 2k has 4 patches out this year...... 4.... and face scans at launch. They even added several new elements to their game in patches. I'm nothing close to a fanboy, but this is ridiculous. Live should not be praised in any way because of their support. The reality is they haven't supported this game since launch. Nice to hear it is playing a little better but this article is way off
 
# 18 RoyalKrimpet @ 12/17/15 11:22 PM
I like the gameplay & soundtrack alot, I hate the bland commentary & the glitch that makes players shirtless on the court. EA has to do a better job with the updates too, there are alot of injured players who are active & vice versa.

It's a step in the right direction for the series. But some of the glitches are huge problems & it is unacceptable & inexcusable for a next gen game.
 
# 19 dasunsrule32 @ 12/18/15 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zrohman
Uhhh. I've only seen one patch. Go back in the thread history. One patch. It took them months just to add face scans and your praising them for it? 2k has 4 patches out this year...... 4.... and face scans at launch. They even added several new elements to their game in patches. I'm nothing close to a fanboy, but this is ridiculous. Live should not be praised in any way because of their support. The reality is they haven't supported this game since launch. Nice to hear it is playing a little better but this article is way off
Um, there have been 4 patches. Maybe you should look at the update history. :-)

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# 20 tril @ 12/18/15 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyalKrimpet
I like the gameplay & soundtrack alot, I hate the bland commentary & the glitch that makes players shirtless on the court. EA has to do a better job with the updates too, there are alot of injured players who are active & vice versa.

It's a step in the right direction for the series. But some of the glitches are huge problems & it is unacceptable & inexcusable for a next gen game.
EA needs to change its slogan "EA SPORTS, IT IN THE GAME".. to "EA SPORTS, A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION"...
every year EA gets a pass with this comment for multiple sports title releases.
 

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