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Sports Gaming Developers Are Overlooking Single Player

Let's face it, a growing portion of gamers are becoming increasingly addicted to the thrill of competitive gaming. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I'm glad that developers are rewarding that behavior with progressively stable online matches and game modes.

But where does that leave the other half of sports gamers? The ones that would do anything to create an accurate representation of their favorite sport. Practically speaking, online gaming is never going to fill that niche - and we shouldn't expect it to. There will always be an opponent who fails to provide a realistic opposition. So, more or less, we (the single player gamer) are left with the CPU and AI components.

There's a whole argument to be had that developers are too concerned with pleasing the online crowd to focus on the CPU AI. Instead, let's just assume (probably unfairly) that developers pour every ounce of attention they have into creating a genuine and simulation-ready CPU. There is still this one, very important, detail that will always be overlooked as long as online competition is looked at as more important than single player gaming.

Variance. Who hasn't watched a game of NBA basketball where your team's best 3 point shooter doesn't miss any wide open shots? Who hasn't seen your team's starting center fling the ball over your QB's head at least once or twice? Who hasn't watched Tiger Woods miss a three foot putt, despite doing everything he could to making sure the read was correct? The answer is this: we have all seen these things. And yet, they are noticeably absent - or at the very least, misrepresented - in each and every sports game that we play.

This all boils down to competitive online play. It is nearly impossible to imagine a world where EA Sports would feel comfortable letting players go head-to-head online only to have some random act of variance affect the outcome of the game. And for those of us who want that simulation experience, that sucks. We are forced to reconcile with the fact that our values and wishes will always play second-string to the online community.

That said, there's a compromise to be found, here. Customization is the way of the future, and if developers can find a way to please both crowds (like having the option to toggle bad snaps on and off) then we will have officially reached a sports utopia. Until that day comes, it's really hard not to feel like us single player gamers aren't being overlooked.


Member Comments
# 1 ballin2k0 @ 02/03/15 11:58 AM
i wish 2k would add all the myteam exclusive legends to the free agent roster so we can use them in our myleague also please fix the allstar jerseys in myleague everybody has shirts on...i use a custom roster maybe thats it...i bet they dont fix it at al though and if they are that lazy im done with 2k....its took alot for me to get to that point its far from that just that...nba2k 15 has also froze my ps4 atleast 20 times or more only game to ever freeze my ps4 to be honest...servers are beyond sht lists goes on.
 
# 2 Prospect357 @ 02/03/15 01:01 PM
The issue w/ game developers is that there always spinning there wheels. When will they actually progress forward ea. yr instead of taking 2 steps forward & 4 steps back. One yr they talk about getting away from canned predetermined animations, then the next yr its back w, a vengeance more canned than ever b4 (speaking on 2k in that regard). If u look at sports games from 1990-2015 which is 25yrs, what has really changed?? nothing pretty much but graphics. 25yrs and the only sport revolution is graphics REALLY??? Laker Vs. Celtics/ Bulls Vs. Blazers had personality all superstars had signature styles Jordan up & unders, Kiss the rim dunks, Barkley threw his off the backboard etc..They got away from it 2k in 2k7 staring bringing personality back, still behind the 8 ball tho & Live is not even worth discussing w, is SAD how they 4got how 2 make sports games. Madden was incorporating gang tackles in '04-'07. Then when they converted 2 X360/PS3 they started working backwards, took away user control 4 yrs, I finally gave up in '09. 2 robotic 4 me even tho I love football, its not a accurate representation. Its more of EA's version of football rather than NFL football. 10 yrs ago EA had more game innovations than what they do now in 2015??? Hate 2 call developers Lazy or repetitive but the proof is int the pudding. They pretty much give you graphics which is a given due 2 advancement in technology, but gameplay and variance is something that takes attention 2 detail which is absent all 2gether. Its all about $$$ w/ no substance GOT CARDS 4 U. Not interested
 
# 3 Teirminator @ 02/03/15 01:30 PM
I can promise you sports game developers are not overlooking single player. Only 10-15% of all players will ever play online. Hence, online gets about 10-15% of the attention and usually has issues at a product's launch.
 
# 4 ianlast @ 02/03/15 01:40 PM
Great article, and one that was long overdue.

Until developers give us the option to have more random occurrences and take some of the control out of the users hands, it will never be a truly accurate representation of the sport.
 
# 5 HustlinOwl @ 02/03/15 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MMChrisS
I'm glad that developers are rewarding that behavior with progressively stable online matches and game modes.
lol what games are these
 
# 6 ven0m43 @ 02/03/15 02:42 PM
I usually only play single player in sport games. I like to make the game feel as realistic as possible by adjusting the settings and sliders. Online you're usually playing with the default sliders. Most of the time it's like Madden, where the other online player likes to go for the 2pt conversion and 4th down. They usually run the same few plays and the games are always high scoring. Thats just not for me.
 
# 7 Gramps91 @ 02/03/15 05:53 PM
Yea, I NEVER play online so these one player modes are very important to me.
 
# 8 Jershy88 @ 02/03/15 06:56 PM
Agree with the post above mine, I never play online. 2K has done a pretty good job imo with their franchise mode, madden however has still not reached what it had done in 02, 05, and 06. Someday we'll get competent franchise modes, and accurate gameplay...
 
# 9 SHAKYR @ 02/04/15 01:09 AM
I hate online and developers are trying to force feed us online.
 
# 10 smuhead @ 02/04/15 02:11 AM
Single mode players being over looked???? Are you serious??!?!

Everything about 2K is geared towards sinlge player modes. Online players don't get half the features single mode provides. The Rec Center and The Park are just silly modes for casual NBA Jam type players.

Online players get no where near the amount of options and features offline players get. Heck, we don't even get a starting lineup introduction. The ungratefulness and nerve of this article is incomprehensible.
 
# 11 ianlast @ 02/04/15 02:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smuhead
Single mode players being over looked???? Are you serious??!?!

Everything about 2K is geared towards sinlge player modes. Online players don't get half the features single mode provides. The Rec Center and The Park are just silly modes for casual NBA Jam type players.

Online players get no where near the amount of options and features offline players get. Heck, we don't even get a starting lineup introduction. The ungratefulness and nerve of this article is incomprehensible.
I think you missed the point of the article.

It's not so much that single player modes are lacking, it's that gameplay and presentation is specifically tailored for the online crowd. Perfect example: center screws up the exchange with the QB. You would have almost all online gamers raging and breaking controllers. But for single player fans like me, this would be a very welcome feature (NB** provided they get the frequency right, so like once every 500 snaps), as it recreates what actually happens in football.

Why do you think there's no chain gang in Madden? Easiest answer is that the online crowd is just going to skip the cut scene, so why bother spending time on it.
 
# 12 smuhead @ 02/04/15 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianlast
I think you missed the point of the article.

It's not so much that single player modes are lacking, it's that gameplay and presentation is specifically tailored for the online crowd. Perfect example: center screws up the exchange with the QB. You would have almost all online gamers raging and breaking controllers. But for single player fans like me, this would be a very welcome feature (NB** provided they get the frequency right, so like once every 500 snaps), as it recreates what actually happens in football.

Why do you think there's no chain gang in Madden? Easiest answer is that the online crowd is just going to skip the cut scene, so why bother spending time on it.
I don't think I missed the point at all.

You say the gameplay and presentation is specifically tailored towards the online crowd, when that is not true. Like I mentioned in first response, NBA 2K15 onliine, there IS NO PRESENTATION. There is NO view of the arena from the outside before tipoff. There is NO Shaq and Ernie pregame show. There is NO custom sliders option, there is NO custom roster option, there is NO halftime interviews. Do I need to continue? These options are for offline, single play modes.

And let's not even mention the main menu reads from left to right, My GM, My Player, My this My that. And this game is tailored towards what crowd again?

The gameplay is really never much of difference. Except the responsiveness is smoother offline.

Lastly you make an assumption that everyone would skip intros and cut scenes, that also is not true. I happen to have a crowd of friends that actually would love to enjoy every aspect of the game. Every single feature the offline player is provided. I mean...isn't it only fair? We paid the same amount of money right?

My crowd would also welcome mis snaps at the line of scrimmage and any other mishaps that happen in real life. Just this year, there have been numerous complaints online that there wasn't enough penalties being called.

The only solution to this is to make all the features available for both modes.
 
# 13 swiftychampleone @ 02/04/15 12:17 PM
This article is why I haven't bought Madden in nearly 10 years. I want 32 team control. Straight and simple. Like another poster said, this is EA's brand of football. Not the NFL. If I see bogus trades, bad drafting and roster management by another team, I want to change it. Example: Why are the Colts drafting a QB in Round 1? I don't care how much EA says AI logic has been improved in team management, I want control.
 
# 14 asu666 @ 02/04/15 03:56 PM
I've always played 99+ percent single-player and I don't ever see that changing. Playing online with a friend every once-in-a-while is fun, but playing with random people doesn't appeal to me. NBA 2K14 was my nightmare because of the server dependency. I'm at level 67 on NBA 2K15, but stopped playing NBA 2K14 on launch day.
 
# 15 ianlast @ 02/04/15 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smuhead
I don't think I missed the point at all.

You say the gameplay and presentation is specifically tailored towards the online crowd, when that is not true. Like I mentioned in first response, NBA 2K15 onliine, there IS NO PRESENTATION. There is NO view of the arena from the outside before tipoff. There is NO Shaq and Ernie pregame show. There is NO custom sliders option, there is NO custom roster option, there is NO halftime interviews. Do I need to continue? These options are for offline, single play modes.

And let's not even mention the main menu reads from left to right, My GM, My Player, My this My that. And this game is tailored towards what crowd again?

The gameplay is really never much of difference. Except the responsiveness is smoother offline.

Lastly you make an assumption that everyone would skip intros and cut scenes, that also is not true. I happen to have a crowd of friends that actually would love to enjoy every aspect of the game. Every single feature the offline player is provided. I mean...isn't it only fair? We paid the same amount of money right?

My crowd would also welcome mis snaps at the line of scrimmage and any other mishaps that happen in real life. Just this year, there have been numerous complaints online that there wasn't enough penalties being called.

The only solution to this is to make all the features available for both modes.
Fair enough. I don't have 2K15, so I can't really speak to that.
 
# 16 CaseIH @ 02/05/15 02:54 AM
This article is so true, and what upsets me most with games now days. Companies worry so much about the little snot nosed online whiners, and forget the true sports fans of video games that made them the company they are today. There was a time when devs put everything into getting simulation stats right, so your franchises stats were close to realistic, and franchise modes was the most important mode. According to the numbers us offline gamers are still the majority and these devs need to start paying attention and putting more effort into franchise modes. MLBTS devs are the only ones who still put a effort into franchise mode, where as the Madden dves and NBA2k devs worry way to much about the online gamers, and why both of their franchise modes are a joke, and glitch. NBA2k devs haven't did a darn thing in a long time to improve Association mode, while Madden has done some, but its full of issues. Hope one day these dves wake up, and start putting a effort into what is still the most important mode in sports gaming.
 
# 17 SOPMODM68 @ 02/06/15 12:54 AM
I couldn't agree with you more CaselH!
Well said!!!!
 
# 18 ILuvMN81 @ 02/07/15 02:48 PM
Good article my friend. Thanks for putting this out there for conversation.

Personally, never been much of an online gamer. I have played racers like Forza, F1, NASCAR, MotoGP and MvA online, but never was a fan of FIFA or Madden online due to the fact that in my early experiences, I would get paired up with a quitter, a big mouth or both. I remember my first time playing Madden 08 online was before I had XBL so I played on my sister's 360. Went up 14-0 before the end of the 1st Q and the other player quit because they didn't want to get "beat by a @#%^ girl".
Speaking of racers, that is probably the only genre I prefer online, though it's still not the same because we can't put 43 NASCAR players together in a room for various reasons yet, for instance.
Racing AI is notoriously difficult to program realistically so running against other real people and their abilities (or lack thereof) kind of makes up for it; biggest problem I get there is the notorious "wreckers", you know people that join a session just to drive around backwards, run into other players, etc.
I like that gamers have organic leagues of their own, but I don't have the time to stick to a schedule I didn't create or something that doesn't require weekly "attendance".
 
# 19 Culture Rot @ 02/09/15 06:33 PM
This was evident many, many years ago
 
# 20 bumpyface @ 02/11/15 01:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospect357
The issue w/ game developers is that there always spinning there wheels. When will they actually progress forward ea. yr instead of taking 2 steps forward & 4 steps back. One yr they talk about getting away from canned predetermined animations, then the next yr its back w, a vengeance more canned than ever b4 (speaking on 2k in that regard). If u look at sports games from 1990-2015 which is 25yrs, what has really changed?? nothing pretty much but graphics. 25yrs and the only sport revolution is graphics REALLY??? Laker Vs. Celtics/ Bulls Vs. Blazers had personality all superstars had signature styles Jordan up & unders, Kiss the rim dunks, Barkley threw his off the backboard etc..They got away from it 2k in 2k7 staring bringing personality back, still behind the 8 ball tho & Live is not even worth discussing w, is SAD how they 4got how 2 make sports games. Madden was incorporating gang tackles in '04-'07. Then when they converted 2 X360/PS3 they started working backwards, took away user control 4 yrs, I finally gave up in '09. 2 robotic 4 me even tho I love football, its not a accurate representation. Its more of EA's version of football rather than NFL football. 10 yrs ago EA had more game innovations than what they do now in 2015??? Hate 2 call developers Lazy or repetitive but the proof is int the pudding. They pretty much give you graphics which is a given due 2 advancement in technology, but gameplay and variance is something that takes attention 2 detail which is absent all 2gether. Its all about $$$ w/ no substance GOT CARDS 4 U. Not interested
You deserve a Truth award. Preach brotha, preach.
 

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