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FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

How well does FIFA 15 represent real players and clubs?

I wanted to try to answer this question. After all, I’m a realism nerd in my sports games. I always have been. “Do AI clubs and players in FIFA 15 play like reasonable approximations of their real-life selves?”

Let's find out.

FIFA 15 represents individual player skill well.

FIFA 15’s mechanics — physics, responsiveness, controls — provide a sensational foundation for the game. They allow exceptional players such as Lionel Messi and Arjen Robben to stand out with their ability to control the ball and navigate the pitch. Central midfielders like Mesut Ozil and Mario Goetze similarly make an impact with how they operate in the middle of the pitch, able to control the short passing game that dominates FIFA 15 (more on that aspect shortly).

This improvement carries over to the defensive side as well, thanks also in part to improved defensive AI. In previous editions of FIFA, only speed and height seemed to separate one defender from another. For the first time I can remember in playing the FIFA series, the presence of a excellent center back—or even a fullback, to a lesser extent—regularly changes the course of a game with their ability to limit good shooting opportunities. Because marking in FIFA 15 took a leap forward, Vincent Kompany and Giorgio Chiellini can disrupt opposing forwards without getting pulled out of position.

Ideally, the game would represent the tendencies of star players as well as their skills. I hope the series moves more in that direction over the next few years. It isn’t there yet. FIFA 15 succeeds at answering the question, “Lionel Messi is great in real life. Is he great in the game?” It doesn’t hold up as well when it comes to addressing how exactly Messi’s greatness affects the match. But while that part hasn’t gotten there yet, player skill definitely comes through more than in years past due to the improved mechanics and AI.

What do you think? Do you agree? Let me know in the comments. I want to come back to this topic later on. In the meantime …

Team tactics in FIFA 15 fall short.

I’ve always felt underwhelmed with the tactical variety in the FIFA series. As a sports strategy and analytics junkie, I obsess over how a team’s strategy separates them from their opponents. FIFA never gives me much to sink my teeth into. For years, every AI match felt mostly the same regardless of my opponent. I hoped FIFA 15 with some of its announced improvements would change things for the better.

Implementing team sheets looked on the surface like a positive development for a series in which tactical variety has always been an issue. After all, team sheets give us additional options for customizing how each team plays. Unfortunately, they don’t seem to actually … work. At least not well.

In practice, tactical variety between clubs actually took a step back in FIFA 15, which I didn’t think was possible. The lack of build-up play is nothing new for the series, but the near-absence of AI teams playing wide and crossing is an alarming change. AI clubs rarely go for the long ball either. Without these essential elements of strategy as a core part of any club’s offensive attack, it’s hard for any clubs to distinguish themselves with unique play. For now, every club settles for dribbling apparently aimlessly around the middle of the pitch, looking for “ping pong” short passes in the goal of getting a clear shooting lane.

I’m not the only one who feels this way.

Since the game’s release a couple weeks ago, I closely followed discussions on our forums. I see I’m not alone here. OS user Krebstar maintained a popular FIFA custom tactics project the last few years on the forums. When asked if he will continue the tactics project this year, he outright said:

“As of now, I don't think I am. The reason is that I can not get them to ‘work.’ For example, no matter what I do, I can not get the AI to play actual "long ball" and hit it long and beat me over the top. I also can not get them to play painfully slow, and pass it around their back four. My guess at this point is even though I'm applying tactics and team sheets to teams, they're not being used by the AI when I play against them.”

He’s not the only one on the forums with that sentiment.

When the game’s tactics gurus can’t get things to work, the game has a massive problem. I understand multiplayer online play captures the attention of perhaps most FIFA players, but the single player crowd needs some attention here. Maybe more people would opt for offline play if the lack of tactical variety didn’t make the game boring and repetitive.

I often feel confused by the lack of attention these tactical issues get in previews, reviews, and features around the Internet. Would people look the other way if AI opponents in NBA 2K never attempted three-pointers, or if single player games of Madden didn’t feature any passes over 20 yards?

I’m an aspiring soccer tactics expert, not an actual one (yet), but I know we have a major problem here in the way FIFA represents the sport. Huge strategic aspects of the sport simply don’t exist in FIFA. Long balls, crosses, back-passes, wide play — they are not in the strategic arsenal of AI opponents. I have been looking for them for almost two weeks now, as have people on the forums who are more well-versed in soccer tactics than I am.

Maybe someone will figure out a way to manipulate sliders or tactics to add more variety. Perhaps there will be a patch. Otherwise, we wait another year. It would be a shame to wait, considering the game as it stands has so many redeeming components.

Do you share these frustrations? What do you want to see done differently? Sound off in the comments below.


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# 21 Hitwise @ 10/06/14 08:47 PM
Has anyone tried playing a few games with CPU pass error close to default. I would not call it long ball, but I do see more variety and if you play good positional D with marking at 44 and adjust the lines it is not an "every team is Barca" nightmare.


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# 22 orion523 @ 10/06/14 09:01 PM
I was a little frustrated earlier with some things so I may have been overly harsh, as I certainly don't want to be confused with one of those types who frequent the EA site if you know what I mean lol.
Overall taking the entire package into consideration, FIFA 15 is a really good game. The physics, player movement, ball physics, plus all of the bells and whistles are top notch and really well done. It's this fact that makes what the game doesn't do well, tactical diversity, seem magnified. IMO there is a bug in the code related to the introduction of the new tactics that is causing the CTT not to work as intended. Now maybe that's me being hopeful, but there's simply no reason to remove something so important as the CTT's for no good reason.
Time will tell if there actually is an issue or not, let's just hope that there is.
 
# 23 mfp @ 10/06/14 09:21 PM
I agree with everything you said except in regards to defending. Yes, it's improved in some areas, but it's still pretty poor, and VERY inadequate relative the attacking prowess on offer.
 
# 24 markus48 @ 10/06/14 09:24 PM
With very minimal sliders changed so far, I have noticed an improvement in how the CPU teams play, but more based on how much time is left rather than what team they are. I was up 1-0 on world class against Borussia Monchengladladbach and they were sending long ball after long ball compared to the first 80 minutes where they were just doing tika-taka.
 
# 25 bballshawn24 @ 10/06/14 10:34 PM
not trolling at all but, thats why you need PES. once you get past playing FUT which i hate fifa is pretty dull
 
# 26 DBMcGee3 @ 10/07/14 10:34 AM
I would love to see more variety from the CPU, but it's far from a deal breaker for me. I still have lots of fun playing the game, and when you get the chance to play against a friend, I find it to be a truly great experience. I'm quite sure I'll still be picking up PES in November, but FIFA does enough things right that I'll keep playing it as well.
 
# 27 carnalnirvana @ 10/08/14 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCloser
Honestly, i cannot believe it took a lot of you this long to realize this. This isn't just a fifa problem, it's an EA sports problem. The teams just don't play like themselves. Their games are bereft of individuality. No individuality through animations, ai behavior, player accessories, etc. They all play the same and the AI plays the same. This is true in NHL, FIFA and NBA. I found it astonishing when i was playing fifa and i saw Messi do a rainbow. At that point, i just turned off the game. Its been a problem for the fifa series since it's inception and i haven't seen a willingness to address the issue. Every year, they focus on superficial issues while ignoring the core issues. Reviewers continue to give the game an undeserving score and they continue to deceive themselves thinking that they made a 'good' game.

AMEN.....


i made myself a promise in 2009 that until the AI can walk with the ball at their feet i would never buy another fifa, and i haven't.


finally people are starting to realize that the game offline plays nothing like the leagues we love.


guys like Matt10 have been trying for years to fix this and the addition of custom tactics gave some hope, but wasn't strong enough, then came sliders but they aren't specific enough, now another addition that does not work, i'm not surprised,


i am sick of renting this game, i love football and want to buy both games but i am starting to miss old old gen fifa 08(ps2) or fifa world gup germany where the ai played decent...even if it was through ball heaven...


but the lack of individuality does not surprise me, look at the ratings, every player has the same abilities, also the biggest promoters of fifa are online players who love the skill moves so offline purists are in trouble.
 
# 28 KG @ 10/08/14 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by carnalnirvana
AMEN.....


i made myself a promise in 2009 that until the AI can walk with the ball at their feet i would never buy another fifa, and i haven't.


finally people are starting to realize that the game offline plays nothing like the leagues we love.


guys like Matt10 have been trying for years to fix this and the addition of custom tactics gave some hope, but wasn't strong enough, then came sliders but they aren't specific enough, now another addition that does not work, i'm not surprised,


i am sick of renting this game, i love football and want to buy both games but i am starting to miss old old gen fifa 08(ps2) or fifa world gup germany where the ai played decent...even if it was through ball heaven...


but the lack of individuality does not surprise me, look at the ratings, every player has the same abilities, also the biggest promoters of fifa are online players who love the skill moves so offline purists are in trouble.
Man...where have you been hiding at carnal?????
 
# 29 carnalnirvana @ 10/08/14 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KG
Man...where have you been hiding at carnal?????
still here, i am a big fan of matt10 vids and his efforts, hoping someone finds a breakthrough to improve gameplay.

i'd still rather play fifa so i read the boards a lot i just dont post here often.
 
# 30 ricardodc @ 10/19/14 05:19 PM
Great article! Congrats!

I only play offline, and AI is so boring! I am really thinking about selling my PS4 game.
Is there any hope to see AI variety in FIFA 15?

Played PES demo and I saw plenty of long balls and back passes. But felt very easy to score and GK animations look like in slow motion. Thoughts?

Regards!
 
# 31 EDUARDO0628 @ 11/05/14 06:25 PM
need help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have a buddy online that i cant beat no matter what i do he seems to have faster and stronger player than me . i tried every custom tactic that i see online nothing seems to work
i came to the conclusion that he most be using some type of cheat that i don't know about

ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED
 
# 32 xicpanad @ 11/05/14 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ricardodc
Great article! Congrats!

I only play offline, and AI is so boring! I am really thinking about selling my PS4 game.
Is there any hope to see AI variety in FIFA 15?

Played PES demo and I saw plenty of long balls and back passes. But felt very easy to score and GK animations look like in slow motion. Thoughts?

Regards!
Come on man, give it a chance. I´ve been playing MM and my matches are rarely the same! When I defend really good, I enjoy the CPU making mistakes and trying to bomb balls to my box, trying to get a goal of any possible way. And trust me, they pass the ball back as well, just need to cut their options. I´ve seen quite some good variation and backpasses to GK when CPU is in pressure. Sometimes is like I can feel they are getting nervous ahah. Really enjoying it.
 
# 33 kashik @ 11/07/14 02:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodc
Great article! Congrats!

I only play offline, and AI is so boring! I am really thinking about selling my PS4 game.
Is there any hope to see AI variety in FIFA 15?

Played PES demo and I saw plenty of long balls and back passes. But felt very easy to score and GK animations look like in slow motion. Thoughts?

Regards!
Playing the PES demo pretty much ruined Fifa for me. That player/team ID is amazing! When you come from fifa, and the cpu plays exactly the same no matter the league the team comes from, things can get old offline fast.

I'm hoping they improved the areas you said. Another week and we'll know
 

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