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OS Roundtable: Does Live Stand a Chance?

Let's face it, NBA 2K is king currently.

There are no other game series which are awaited as anxiously by OS'ers than NBA 2K, and for the last couple of years the game has gone unchallenged on the marketplace.

Of course, changes this year as NBA Live 14 is entering stage right.

With such an ingrained dominance on the marketplace right now from NBA 2K, does NBA Live even stand a chance to make a mark on gamers this year and establish a foothold to work off of?

Bishop Tart: EA knows they have to release NBA Live this year, and it will of course see the light of day come this November. Does it need to be the best basketball game ever? No; but it does need to be a competent basketball game at the very least.

Although we have yet to see any 5-on-5 footage (2K has yet to show any for NBA 2K14 next gen as well), I think they can establish a foothold. The one positive they have is that NBA Live 14 is being developed only for the Xbox One and PlayStation 4. That means they can dedicate everything to those next gen consoles and get the most out of each one. They won't win the battle against 2K with one relase, but competition is always good for the consumer.
 
Matthew Coe: The surprising answer is yes and I'll tell you why with two points. The first reason is because despite the incredibly consistent quality of NBA 2K, some gamers are tired of 2K's style of basketball and are looking to change it up. Even if it means buying an unproven, potentially inferior basketball title. The second reason has to do with NBA Live 14 releasing exclusively on next generation consoles. This was a smart move by EA no matter what your opinion of the game or the company is. It has the advantage of being on new hardware and having unknown potential. The excitement of the game's potential on next-gen hardware can only be a positive.

Having said all of that, EA has to show some 5-on-5 footage and they have to do it soon. Even the fans of the Live series are starting to get impatient and that doesn't bode well. I think everyone wants competition in every sports gaming category. If NBA Live 14 releases as a competent basketball title with some simulation elements, and a working franchise/dynasty mode then I think it does have a chance.

NBA Live 14 will not beat 2K14 in terms of sales or review scores, but the series will have a chance to come back and regain a small foothold in the NBA basketball gaming market. That's all that EA Sports could realistically hope for right now.


Evan Crilley: I honestly think EA can steal a steal a sizeable portion of 2K's market share as long as they focus in the right places and deliver unique features. I equate it to the Battlefield series vs Call of Duty series, both sell a ton of copies despite being within the same genre so both have to find ways to differentiate from one another.

Battlefield (2K) is more realistic. Rounds take forever, but feel complete and full of options, strategies, and gameplay elements to choose your route to victory. Call of Duty (EA) is all about get in and get out as quick as you can in multiple game resembling a military shooter, but sacrificing some elements of realism to lead to a more fun, arcady, and social experience with a small group of friends.

I believe the EA NBA series can borrow a page from their EA NHL brethren and pick up users where 2K is weak, that being the online play. Imagine an EASHL type mode with 5v5 (user v user) matchups of created players vying for wins and titles versus one another. Basketball is probably the only sport other than hockey or soccer which lends itself to such a mode with grab and go appeal.

If EA adopts this strategy and throws in an addictive Ultimate Team mode (which they never fail to do) they can chip away at pretty much everywhere where 2K leaves their customers wanting more. Start with this as a base point and use the revenues and expanding user base to build and add on to the online and offline franchise/association modes, and EA has a recipe for success to take on 2K in the next-gen battle for hard court supremacy.
 
 
Jayson Young: As someone who enjoyed NBA Live 10's five-on-five team play mode until the servers were shut down, Electronic Arts undoubtedly has an opportunity to bring in online players who are tired of NBA 2K's continually weak multiplayer experience.

Even after rewriting their entire online code base, 2K Sports still hasn't been able to deliver a multiplayer mode that is worth playing. It has been amazing to watch a sports franchise that was so ahead of its time on the Dreamcast fall so far behind the times on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

If Electronic Arts can successfully incorporate the team play mode from FIFA and match that with the connected career mode from Madden, then NBA Live 14 could be a huge seller for online-starved basketball gamers.
 
Robert Kollars:  I think Live has a great chance if they can put out a quality product - and quality doesn't mean it has to be perfect.

Of course EA has a ways to go recoup some of their fan-base, but that is a given considering the last game released was NBA Live 10. We all know the story of the past promises and cancellation debacles - I think it's time to finally move past that storyline. I for one plan on judging this Fall's release on it's own merits, and not that of previous development teams.

I am a firm believer that there is plenty of room for two quality basketball titles, and never understood the idea of rooting for one to fail. Competition means quality, and if EA can deliver a solid product come November, everyone comes out a winner.
 
 
What do you think OS? Does NBA Live stand a chance to establish a foothold in basketball gamer's hearts and minds?

NBA Live 14 Videos
Member Comments
# 121 GisherJohn24 @ 09/29/13 02:45 PM
Why does lack of videos scare everyone? News flash. We haven't seen jack **** from 2k yet.
 
# 122 Hadlowe @ 09/30/13 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24
Why does lack of videos scare everyone? News flash. We haven't seen jack **** from 2k yet.
We had the Lebron trailer from the finals that looked amazing. We got a teaser trailer today that looked just as good. Oh, and a solid base game to build off.

So far, EA has given us some CGI trailers, a bunch of screenshots and about a minute and a half of Kyrie dribbling without ever seeing the ball go through the net.

Advantage 2k thus far.

Really hoping Live can show us something amazing in the next couple of weeks.
 
# 123 King_B_Mack @ 09/30/13 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Skopin
I'm not saying it should scare anyone, but at this point, their marketing team needs to do some damage control. 2k's trailer today didn't show anything more than Live's a few weeks ago, but 2k also has current gen to promote, and the gaming community is not on Live's side.
Uhh...how so? For one thing we saw multiple teams and players. We saw an actual made field goal. More than one actually. I'm confused how you drew that conclusion.
 
# 124 I Djm @ 09/30/13 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
Uhh...how so? For one thing we saw multiple teams and players. We saw an actual made field goal. More than one actually. I'm confused how you drew that conclusion.

we didn't see anyone dribbling duh!
 
# 125 knick9 @ 09/30/13 05:36 PM
2K only showed 4 animations today, Durant stepback, harden eurostep, and two midair dunks. Wait until we can really compare player movement and gameplay.
 
# 126 King_B_Mack @ 09/30/13 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by I Djm
we didn't see anyone dribbling duh!
LeBron in the beginning doesn't count does it?
 
# 127 coolcras7 @ 09/30/13 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Skopin
Neither showed what we'll actually see while we're playing the game.



This was made from NBA 2k13 on PC. I'm just saying that in terms of what we can expect to see in terms of actual gameplay, neither game has shown us anything.
That video shows a strong foundation by 2k, Live has alot to prove you can make all the excuses you can, but dribbling is only one part of the game.
 
# 128 I Djm @ 09/30/13 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
LeBron in the beginning doesn't count does it?
totally forgot about that -.-
 
# 129 GisherJohn24 @ 10/01/13 10:41 AM
Live and both 2k might just be holding out showing too much before launch. Seeing what the other guy will do? Maybe?
 
# 130 RandomPerson @ 10/01/13 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24
Live and both 2k might just be holding out showing too much before launch. Seeing what the other guy will do? Maybe?

I doubt 2K even cares about Live. They're not legit competition until proven otherwise.
 
# 131 knick9 @ 10/01/13 04:30 PM
It doesn't matter what any of us say really, if they make a great game people will buy it--regardless of how many trailers were made.
 
# 132 boltokPwnage04 @ 10/01/13 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by knick9
2K only showed 4 animations today, Durant stepback, harden eurostep, and two midair dunks. Wait until we can really compare player movement and gameplay.
I could be wrong but didnt the eurostep, and dunks look exactly the same as CG?
 
# 133 ScoobySnax @ 10/01/13 05:49 PM
At this point, I'm just waiting for our annual "failure to deliver" announcement.
 
# 134 King_B_Mack @ 10/01/13 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobySnax
At this point, I'm just waiting for our annual "failure to deliver" announcement.
They'll release. I'm confident of that. Even if they have to push trash out the door, they'll release. They simply cannot afford another failure to launch.

That said, what we're witnessing right now is exactly why I don't trust the game and what's been the franchise's biggest problem for years now. The decision making over there is horrible. There is no reason for 2K's next gen spot to steal momentum away from Live 14. Not this much anyway. They should have been littering Live news, info, videos and pictures throughout this whole process while 2K was focused on current gen. Instead they sat around talking about dribbling for the last three months and showing pictures of Kyrie dribbling. This is the equivalent of a team being down three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter and they're not passing at all, just running the ball, getting up slowly and making no real effort to close the gap. They're behind in this race and they haven't acted like it at all. That scares me.
 
# 135 CurryMan @ 10/01/13 08:08 PM
2k is an outdated game. I mean it's 2013 and their gameplay is still mostly scripted!
 
# 136 Jay Jay @ 10/01/13 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CurryMan
2k is an outdated game. I mean it's 2013 and their gameplay is still mostly scripted!
Thats my #1 issue with gameplay and clipping. Those issues should have been some what fixed in the current gen but I guess its to hard for b-ball.
 
# 137 tyberious4now @ 10/01/13 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CurryMan
2k is an outdated game. I mean it's 2013 and their gameplay is still mostly scripted!
Just asking if 2k is outdated than what is live?

Some people Geeeesh,!!!
 
# 138 GisherJohn24 @ 10/01/13 09:24 PM
It doesn't have a chance to dethrone 2K, but it does have a chance to be fun. And that's what people should look for, not for it to beat 2K.
 
# 139 King_B_Mack @ 10/02/13 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirs
2k has released two hype trailers focusing on animations! Why animations I mean 2k has always been good visually with animations. Just more of the same crap with them... No mention of anything about the game other than stats and I don't see playable 5vs5 either. Knowing their history it's a port since history tells all.

Ea has a trailer too. Yet in addition next gen tech ignite info, synergy, court q, playable Bouncetek demo and vid showing how it works. They have backed up what they are showing yet for some reason it's not enough. There is more coming this week and the weeks to follow. How is that scary?
You have no clue what you're talking about do you? Focusing on animations? Wha? Do you even know what animations are? If history tells all then I guess we won't be seeing Live 14 at all now will we? Ooops.
 
# 140 noshun @ 10/02/13 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
You have no clue what you're talking about do you? Focusing on animations? Wha? Do you even know what animations are? If history tells all then I guess we won't be seeing Live 14 at all now will we? Ooops.
I was going to respond to his post, but decided to let him to continue looking foolish. he doesn't know the difference between animations & visual/graphical upgrades. either way his points are mixed up.
 


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