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Will the KHL Ever Come to the NHL Series?

It's always been a cool feature that EA includes leagues from around the world in the NHL series. Not only does it make the drafting and franchise process more accurate, but it gives a flavor for the different leagues, teams and players from the entire spectrum of professional hockey. Scouting in a franchise mode is properly realized since you can focus on various positions that are a strength of specific leagues. Rosters are also more complete, since some international players split their time between leagues in their home country and in the NHL — sometimes in the same season. Having all of these players means a better overall product.

To this end, it was a welcome addition when EA had the Russian Super League as a part of the NHL 09 product. It allowed for much more accurate rosters, and it was possible to track former NHL players who were looking for work across the pond. The RSL was a popular haven for journeyman NHL players and random pros, plus it was a meaningful talent pool for emerging stars several years back.
 


Now that the Russian league is called the Kontinental Hockey League and has a wider reach across the former Soviet Union, it has a much firmer place in the modern hockey landscape. The league, which was officially branded in 2008, has links to the NHL in various ways. There are players who are now wowing the NHL who started in the KHL (Nail Yakupov), players who took a trip through the league during the lockout (Pavel Datsyuk), and players who have decided to leave the NHL and head back to the homeland (Alexander Radulov). However you look at it, the KHL and the NHL have a shaky truce that connects both leagues through a shared pool of talent.

An argument can certainly be made that the KHL has just as much relevance today as the AHL, WHL, OHL, QMJHL and the Swedish Elite League. This makes it all the more unfortunate that the KHL doesn't have a presence in the current NHL games. Once the Russian Super League was removed from the NHL series (after the league became the KHL), both EA and the NHL were clearly unable to acquire rights to put the new KHL in the games.

As recently as two years ago, there was a company called Life Sports in Russia that was supposedly making a KHL game. Based on the timing of this 2011 announcement, one has to believe that developers and marketers of this product felt they could cash in on the NHL lockout and the deluge of players they were about to get. The press release emphasized stars like Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, Alexander Semin and “other NHL players.” There has been no word, as of this writing, as to the status of this KHL product.
 


Photo Credit: eakhl.com

For EA's part, they issued a statement back in March of this year on their Facebook page stating the following: “The dev team takes a close look at all potential leagues to include in the game every year. That's a great league and hopefully we'll be able to get them in one year!” While this message sounds optimistic, it's hard to really believe that the NHL, KHL and EA are going to work through their troubles anytime soon. I suspect EA only had to spend minimal money to acquire some of the smaller international leagues, and the relationship between the NHL and the Swedish league, for example, is probably on a much more stable footing.

The KHL and NHL have been on rocky ground over the last few years, and the change in 2008 to the KHL created a new identify for the Russian league. More and more they've been attempting to distance themselves from the NHL product, and including their players, teams and logos in the main NHL game runs counter to what they're trying to accomplish. My sense is that there is probably a dollar amount the NHL or EA could pay to work this out, but that asking price is likely way off base for the financial return that would be gained. None of this is helped by the KHL actively antagonizing the NHL by trying to sway players to stay around with large sums of money, nor is it helpful when the NHL is trying to take a higher-than-thou approach by saying they feel disrespected. There's no stable transfer agreement between the leagues, and it's pretty much a free-for-all when it comes to player signing and defections.

Still, the lack of KHL in EA games isn't stopping some fans from making the best of it, as you've got eakhl.com, a site which provides a full franchise league based off KHL teams and players. The site offers statistical breakdowns, pictures, videos and reports on a simulated KHL league, and it appears that most of the players of the KHL have been created and tweaked. The site even hosts custom rosters, goal horns and arena songs for download and use.
 


Photo Credit: eakhl.com


But what would a KHL mode look like in EA's game? It would add some much-needed perspective and freshness to the franchise and Be-A-Pro modes, and it would even create an international vibe when your career character was pondering contract negotiations from more than just North American teams. Users would have to adjust to the slight variation in rules for the KHL as well, including stricter officiating (creating less low hits and injuries), no-touch icing and larger rink sizes (although some KHL rinks are getting smaller now).

These gameplay changes could be complemented by the difference in geography, economy and franchise expectation for Be-A-GM and franchise modes. Obviously the NHL wouldn't want to highlight lockouts and such, but there could be an element of “poaching” North American players at key points in the season (free agents, etc.) to bolster your KHL club. Development resources, budgets and franchise expectations would all be different, especially considering the “unique” ownership of many teams in the KHL. This is all to say nothing of the possibilities for presentation for a KHL mode, which could highlight the denseness of the arenas and the occasionally “football-like” nature of the fans during some games. Also: authentic announcers, anyone?

It's fun to spitball about what a mode like this could be, but it won't ever be a reality until the NHL and the KHL sort out their player transfer situation and establish some mutual trust. The KHL is brazenly striking out on its own, trying to be a major player in the hockey landscape, and the NHL wants to hold on to the top-tier European players that might have wandering eyes for the large payouts and hometown feeling that awaits them. The end result ends up being a hockey product from EA that is missing an important component of the hockey world — one that may prove even more influential in the next five to ten years.


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# 1 Cletus @ 08/15/13 03:30 PM
I wish they would add the ECHL before the KHL. The KHL would be nice for older NHL players, but the ECHL has american teams in cities that rarely saw hockey before the team was there, my city would be one instance. Plus, you could play in the ECHL as your Be A Pro, send fringe draftees down without taking a spot on the AHL squad or even rehab an injured player. With the way players develop a lot of draftees don't gain any attribute points in juniors and are scratched all all season at the AHL level. These guys would be perfect for the ECHL.
 
# 2 Simple Mathematics @ 08/15/13 03:59 PM
They will never add the KHL. The big-wigs over at the KHL think they're the best hockey league in the world. They would not "lower" themselves by putting their league in a game called NHL 14 or 15 or whatever. If they'd ever put their league in, they would require the game to be called something like NHL/KHL 14.

As for the ECHL, I agree, I'd like for this league along with the NCAA to make it into the game before the KHL. This means we could have more prospects, which is never a bad thing.
 
# 3 Retropyro @ 08/15/13 05:27 PM
More and more i feel that the game (the sport, not the video game) would benefit greatly in the long run if it became more like pro soccer and how each of those leagues works with each other. The addition of a champions league between all the top clubs from each league would be great. A trade deadline on a global scale across leagues.
Ah well, pure fantasy.
 
# 4 dlxsf18 @ 08/15/13 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Retropyro
More and more i feel that the game (the sport, not the video game) would benefit greatly in the long run if it became more like pro soccer and how each of those leagues works with each other. The addition of a champions league between all the top clubs from each league would be great. A trade deadline on a global scale across leagues.
Ah well, pure fantasy.
I don't know how I'd feel if one day in the future the NHL, KHL, and maybe other European leagues like the SM-LIGA or Elitserien were friends.

On one hand, the fans would benefit. Maybe there would be a Champions League type thing, which means even more meaningful games. Hockey could potentially expand from the popularity that this sort of thing would bring.

On the other hand, the executives AND fans, at least those of the NHL, would see harmful changes. This could definitely result in a lack of loyalty from European players. What would stop Datsyuk, or Malkin, or Ovechkin, from going to the KHL if there was one joint confederation of teams playing each other? What gets a young Nicklas Backstrom, or Erik Karlsson, or Lundqvist, to leave the Scandinavian leagues if all of a sudden the NHL wasn't the best place in the world to play anymore? As a stretch, you could even ask why someone like Stamkos would want to stay in Tampa if the Euro leagues came calling with a better contract and a city that makes hockey stars huge celebrities.
 
# 5 Retropyro @ 08/15/13 06:31 PM
What's stopping them from doing it now? Look at Kovalchuk, he "retires" from the NHL and only days later signs with SKA Saint Petersburg. If anything, that stuff would no longer happen as retirement from a league that falls under that umbrella means a retirement from the game itself, not just quick way to ditch a contract and move to the league you want to go to.
If Stamkos was a free agent today, there is nothing stopping him from signing with any team in any league he wanted. Nothing on the front is any different.
 
# 6 gopher_guy @ 08/15/13 08:36 PM
Why would the NHL ever allow that to happen? Like someone else said, I think a lot of players would be more likely to go home and play in their home nation, because instead of the Stanley Cup being the holy grail of hockey, this "Champions League" trophy could become the new holy grail. Unlikely, but the NHL couldn't risk that and have the best players in the world leaving back to their respective countries.

If that happened, it would essentially just turn into "which country is best?". We already have that in the Olympic hockey tournament.
 
# 7 ericromain @ 08/15/13 09:35 PM
Great write up.

I really hope the KHL gets added again. So many great players out there, and EA NHL is the only player in town. The euro leagues have taught me so much about their game just by exposing me to their uniforms and players, the same would happen for me and the KHL. I really wonder what the drivers are keeping the KHL out.

I am probably a bigger NCAA hockey fan than any other league, but i gotta admit the KHL belongs in this game more than any other. I really wish they'd make a IIHF thing happen.
 
# 8 TeeKoo @ 08/16/13 08:54 AM
I'd really like to see the KHL in EA's game in future. I think there are two issues: money and the name of the franchise. The money is been an issue also for the IIHF license and I really hope that in the future EA is willing to sacrifice some amount of dollars to get that license.

And for the name issue. If it is as been said that KHL won't agree to be in a game if it's under NHL name, EA should change the name of the franchise. EA hockey doesn't sound bad to me and if it' s the only way to get KHL in the game, I think that's the risk they'll have to take.
 
# 9 Simple Mathematics @ 08/16/13 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TeeKoo
I'd really like to see the KHL in EA's game in future. I think there are two issues: money and the name of the franchise. The money is been an issue also for the IIHF license and I really hope that in the future EA is willing to sacrifice some amount of dollars to get that license.

And for the name issue. If it is as been said that KHL won't agree to be in a game if it's under NHL name, EA should change the name of the franchise. EA hockey doesn't sound bad to me and if it' s the only way to get KHL in the game, I think that's the risk they'll have to take.
I've never thought of this for some reason, but isn't it rather silly how we call this video game "NHL 14"? It has so many leagues in it. It would be like the FIFA series being called MLS 14. "NHL 14" should really be called EA Sports Hockey or something like that.
 
# 10 13whitebread @ 08/16/13 10:35 AM
I say we have a summit series with the KHL vs. NHL
 
# 11 dlxsf18 @ 08/16/13 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by derektown
I say we have a summit series with the KHL vs. NHL
Who would become the modern day Esposito

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFKvB3Wnzgk
 
# 12 GlennN @ 08/16/13 11:31 AM
You mentioned that this would let us "track former NHL players who were looking for work across the pond." I would respectfully disagree. For me, the primary weakness of this series, and has been for years, is the inability to track any player's career. You can't see a player's full career stats anywhere, can't see teams played for, awards or cups won, etc. I would love to be able to track players, but, KHL or not, in the NHL series, you just can't track players . . . at all.
 
# 13 Cletus @ 08/16/13 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by derektown
I say we have a summit series with the KHL vs. NHL
We had that last season in the Winnipeg Jets
 
# 14 WildVikingFox @ 08/17/13 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennN
You mentioned that this would let us "track former NHL players who were looking for work across the pond." I would respectfully disagree. For me, the primary weakness of this series, and has been for years, is the inability to track any player's career. You can't see a player's full career stats anywhere, can't see teams played for, awards or cups won, etc. I would love to be able to track players, but, KHL or not, in the NHL series, you just can't track players . . . at all.
This is my biggest problem with the series as well. It takes one right out of the game to not be able to see any info on the players' careers.

As for the topic at hand, I want to see the NCAA in before the KHL
 
# 15 gopher_guy @ 08/17/13 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WildVikingFox
This is my biggest problem with the series as well. It takes one right out of the game to not be able to see any info on the players' careers.

As for the topic at hand, I want to see the NCAA in before the KHL
I think we're in the minority there, haha
 
# 16 domjr4 @ 08/18/13 02:15 AM
Check out my KHL rosters for PS3
 

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