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NBA 2K13: Demo Roundtable

Aaron Ondrey: It's almost October. Leaves are turning, replacement referees are being threatened, and NBA 2K13 is just around the corner.

Today is a good day to be an NBA 2K fan. This demo has me believing NBA 2K13 will fulfill my prediction as Sports Game of the Year.

First off, the gameplay is a thing of beauty. Players cut, they move and they go places with a purpose. They barely get in your way if you're the ball handler, especially compared to last year's version. The passing is a lot sharper, and the manual pass is a long-awaited addition back into the game for myself.

Players play like their real-life counterparts. LeBron has the power to drive to the hoop and carry a defender with him. Durant starts to heat up, and can't miss. Role players also are going to play a much bigger role thanks to the signature skills. Chalmers will drive and kick to the corner for a Battier 3-pointer, and Ibaka and Perkins run the paint on defense.

The player movement finally feels like speed and weight matter. If I'm the Thunder, and LeBron takes off on the break, I can't keep up with him if I'm Ibaka. This makes me so happy. It's also a great feeling to know that you have a lot more control on defense, and are rewarded when you play it well.

The control stick dribbling is fantastic once you can grasp it. It took me about 10 games to fully understand what I was doing in relation to the hoop, but it's great when you chain everything together. Guards like Westbrook, Rose, Rondo and CP3 are going to be a dominant part of the game. This is definitely realistic because the NBA has shifted to a point guard league.

I got an overall great experience playing the demo today. Of course, there were a few things off. I didn't like the tiny delay when shooting with the shot modifier combined with the right stick. I'm also not a fan of how easy it is to do hop-step layups and spin dunks. This will be easily addressed for offline gamers, but if the quick ranked matches online are on pro/default, there will be some upset people.

Overall, I couldn't wait for the release of NBA 2K13. The demo has just made me more excited.

Bishop Tart: As a person who really got into NBA 2K11 -- but was not a huge fan of NBA 2K12 -- I must admit, NBA 2K13 has won me back. The new advanced controls are enough to make me love this game already. That's something I think the series really needed. Add that to the already near-perfect gameplay and new signature skills, how could you not want to play NBA 2K this year. The new animations also look slick, and like Aaron said, the speed and weight of each player actually matter. That will be huge this year.

To me, NBA 2K12 didn't do enough to make it feel like a completely new game. Visual Concepts looks like they added some big gameplay enhancements this year, and I can't wait for the full release in October (November on Wii U).

Dustin Toms: First of all ... wow. The NBA 2K13 demo is the first demo I've ever touched that was better than its retail predecessor. As mentioned above, the player movement has reached the point where it's so realistic, my jaw drops in the middle of the game in amazement. I know I'm playing a video game, but damn it looks good -- especially the flopping after a jump shot.

The new control stick is pretty sweet. It's 2K's way of bringing the difficulty level back down to the casual gamer, but at the same time have made it more complicated for the hardcore. Pretty damn initiative. Between this new feature and NHL 13's skating engine, the OS yearly award for Most Innovative is going to be a hell of a fight.

However, there are a few things I wasn't to fond of in the demo. Flopping may look awesome, but it happened to often. I saw anywhere from two to six flops in the 5 minute quarter -- a flop a minute is just too much. Also, player response seems to fluctuate way too much in each game. Sometimes it would take a second or two for LeBron to pass the ball, causing turnovers of other things.

But the issues in the demo are never issues in retail versions, let alone 2K, who has already mentioned on Twitter that they're looking into the responsiveness. Either way, it's safe to say that NHL 13 might need to be shaking in its feet if it wants to win any Game of the Year awards.

What about you OS, what are your thoughts on the NBA 2K13 demo?


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# 21 Vni @ 09/26/12 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The Biscuit 07
I would love to hear more of Vni thoughts.
If you check my previous posts you'll find out what I think about the demo. Honestly I'am done explaining how I feel before it gets too annoying for everyone. I'am still playing the demo, tryeing to get a feel for the control/game. Trust me, I wish I was just loving it.

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Originally Posted by CRAZY2KFAN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
# 22 djbaker @ 09/26/12 04:00 PM
I traded in 2k12 as soon as the dribble stick was announced. No point in exercising the old system when I'll have to learn a new one.

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# 23 HowDareI @ 09/26/12 04:12 PM
The demos pretty amazing, just wish you could invite friends online but that's not a big deal..the only problem I have is wit the camera..at least let me use the 2K cam, I can't get a feel for the controls because of that.

Some people online still try to pound the x button for steals, and just stand in your face looking for charges too..I don't know where that playstyle came from but them kids need to go somewhere lol

Oh, and people that wanna go back to 2K12 controls: I understand where you're coming from, but you should probably get used to the new ones..cuz what if 2K14 comes out and they take out 2K12 controls for good..just sayin.
 
# 24 Gramps91 @ 09/26/12 04:13 PM
I really don't know why people aren't talking about the difficulty of the post game or pump fakes. In 2k12 it was easy to shoot a pump fake and easy to work in the post. It's a whole lot harder this year in both aspects. Also, the presentation isn't as good. I'm really hoping for more starting lineup screens than the one we got.

However, the movement is better, the animations are more fluid and shooting seems easier.

I also really like the new dribble controls. Overall it's better than 2k12 I just wish the pump fakes and post game where as easy as 2k12.
 
# 25 T3Y FR3SH757 @ 09/26/12 04:21 PM
2k12? Unplayable now. With the whole new control stick you can pull off a whole new arsenal of moves. I think thats why they changed it. It takes some getting use to but they haven't took ANYTHING out the game its just different buttons now.
 
# 26 The Biscuit 07 @ 09/26/12 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eaterofworlds888
I really don't know why people aren't talking about the difficulty of the post game or pump fakes. In 2k12 it was easy to shoot a pump fake and easy to work in the post. It's a whole lot harder this year in both aspects. Also, the presentation isn't as good. I'm really hoping for more starting lineup screens than the one we got.

However, the movement is better, the animations are more fluid and shooting seems easier.

I also really like the new dribble controls. Overall it's better than 2k12 I just wish the pump fakes and post game where as easy as 2k12.
I have to agree with the pump fakes portion of this. Now I'm not saying it's the games fault, perhaps it is just because of me getting used to the control, or whatever is causing that slight delay with the new shot stick, but I noticed that as well, that I wasn't as fluid on pump fakes. I am still not ready to blame the game yet given I have not learned the new controls like I want, but that was something I was struggling with in the demo.
 
# 27 Babyportobello @ 09/26/12 05:25 PM
I would have to agree with crazy2kfan. It feels unnatural to hold the left trigger and use the right stick inside the paint when driving or posting up. I feel like the new controls when used on the perimeter aren't such a huge issue because you can use the dribble moves and simply press X to shoot but when you either post up or drive inside is where this new control scheme seems difficult to use. I will continue to test it out but more and more I'm thinking that I'll revert back to the 2k12 control scheme.
 
# 28 ForeverVersatile @ 09/26/12 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KingRell
Me too.....or maybe were just being realistic
Maybe your crazy or just a fanboy of that other fail of an NBA Basketball game.
 
# 29 RUFFNREADY @ 09/26/12 05:55 PM
I like the demo, but one thing bothered me in game; the off the glass self alley-oops! why does it pause soo long while actually trying to do it? I was on a huge break away, and when i clicked on the buttons, everybody was around me, or passed me just standing there watching!
cheers
 
# 30 DatGD12guage @ 09/26/12 05:58 PM
"but if the quick ranked matches online are on pro/default, there will be some upset people."

Dam right!

I have to say after playing the demo more I have somewhat adjusted to the gameplay. At first I said that it was kind of sloppy looking but after playing there are things to minimize that, I just stated using the protect ball more and coming out of it everytime I wanna to do a two step. The defense was also not so good to me then I heard someone say that the game is on pro/casual or default either way if this is true which it seems to be then that would explain the many ankle breaking moments and the slight difficulty playing D.
 
# 31 piccolomair @ 09/27/12 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by KingRell
Me too.....or maybe were just being realistic
i think its foolish for people to bash you guys for not liking the demo/game. I personally just wish you guys would elaborate, and also keep the concept or "what can actually be implemented" in mind. For example, people have ragged on madden for years because either they failed to hit the realism levels that the very old nfl2k games were reaching, or because they would add new features just to remove some other features, and then reintroduce those features as new (2k is doing this with crew right now, and i have a few ideas as to why)

So its fine if you find something unrealistic, and it turns you off, but explain it, try to explain how it could have been tweaked or changed, dont just point out that foot planting wasnt 100% real when no sport game has really figured out how to do that yet.

Also its always a good idea to present what you do like about the game. I refuse to believe that there i nothing you guys enjoy about 2k13, and if there really is nothing you like about 2k13, then at least mention things you have liked in other basketball games (2k, live, whatever) so at least it makes your argument more relatable, more understandable, and seemingly less trollish (even if its not your intention, simply saying negative things and calling them 'truths' is essentially trollish behavior)

I for one enjoy reading the real negatives on a product. The best products, to me, are not the ones that have the most positives, but the ones that have the least negatives.....and when it comes to games like 2k13, i like to look into how many of the negatives are true negatives as opposed to user misunderstanding....
 
# 32 GOB @ 09/27/12 04:10 AM
The demo was alright i just wish we didn't have to play as the teams in the NBA finals every year like why cant the put in 4 teams and if they have to make 2 of them the NBA finals teams and the other two can be random. For me that would be alot more fun.
 
# 33 robny23 @ 09/27/12 04:26 AM
They did take out one thing, you can't do the hard fast jab step anymore. In 2k12 when you jabbed forward, it was a hard quick jab. Seems like 13 only has the slower jab left or right. Now sure why no one mentioned it but I tend to like to utilize triple threat and the quick jab was a great offensive weapon. It's either not in 13 or I don't know how to execute it.
 
# 34 Norris_Cole @ 09/27/12 05:47 AM
Some things I noticed already

-Spin move and up and under moves are way overpowered...
-Self alleyoops need to be drastically toned down (I personally would even remove them from the entire game)
-Lack of contact when an offensive player is close/under the rim (maybe a slider thing?), combined with poor shot blocking/too slow contest animations for the defenders. Lead passes could be the cheesers' favorite weapon this year

Everything else feels GREAT, having a lot of fun with the demo
 
# 35 davros88 @ 09/27/12 05:50 AM
The new gameplay features and the way players move looks pretty cool, even if i'm still quite dumb with the control stick... But does anybody else think that the graphics haven't improved much? And of course I hope that the presentation in the full game will be way better and more complete than this one...
 
# 36 Babyportobello @ 09/27/12 07:14 AM
It does seem like the graphics took a slight hit. There is a bit of loss of detail in player faces and I think that it is time for the crowd to finally get the work it deserves too. The crowd looks pretty bad.
 
# 37 tr1kz @ 09/27/12 07:29 AM
As I've already preordered the game after learning about all the gameplay changes, I'll skip the demo and look forward to finally getting the final game. Can't wait ...

OT: Does anybody else miss the option to shoot freethrows using sixaxis on PS3? 2ksports, will this be in back in 2k13? If not, is it possible to patch this into the game?
 
# 38 Babyportobello @ 09/27/12 07:35 AM
This seems to be a very stripped down version of what we are going to actually be playing come next Tuesday. Overall they did do a solid effort in Improving the gameplay for us. Like every other year, my complaints will mostly be very petty and have to do with specific details not any major gripe. It would be nice though to get a more complete demo in order to truly get a feel for the game specifically this year with the new added controls.
 
# 39 GisherJohn24 @ 09/27/12 09:47 AM
The game is downright amazing. I heard if you don't like the new control scheme you can use the 2k12 controls? Not sure if that's confirmed. I love the organic feel, just feels even more realistic which I never thought was possible, but this will be the sickest NBA game in video game history. Bummed we only have 2 new classic teams. That sucks. Lucky for 2K roster share.

Can someone correct me? There is NO Team USA? Just dream team correct?

I so want my 90's Pacers. And if you got Barkley in the game, give us the classic SUNS! Come on 2k!
 
# 40 Boopie26 @ 09/27/12 10:13 AM
U can still dribble with LS u can chain moves together with RS thats sick! And the passing is amazing
 


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