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Madden NFL 12 Reviewer Impressions: Presentation

One of the most cosmetic changes to come to Madden in years are the various presentation enhancements throughout the game. No longer are we treated with bad camera angles and a non-broadcast feel -- we now have something that's finally catching up with the rest of the pack in our genre. But don't get too excited yet, Madden NFL 12 still has a good bit to go.

New Camera Angles

I think Madden is close to doing about as good of a job as any sports game on mirroring the correct camera angles in games. The angles themselves are very well done and the lens 'effects' used, such as the distortion for a wide angle lens, are just phenomenal. There is some good variety in the camera work as well. Each game has a different feel thanks to the different camera angles and whatnot, whereas in prior years Madden was way too repetitive in regards to camera angles and cutscenes.

But the new angles aren't perfect. They'll show off the other parts of the presentation that aren't as good. Players will still walk aimlessly around after a play and run into each other, the close ups of the crowd look laughable, and a lot of the other shots are ruined because the players just don't act real. It's as if Madden continually tries to convince you that you are watching an NFL Broadcast and even when it becomes obvious you aren't, it keeps trying.

Another positive about the cameras are the new team intros -- they're authentic and they look pretty darned good. There is some variety as well, and perhaps a bit more variety in the camera angles within each intro in future years would really make this a real strong point with the game. As it is, each team has an authentic entrance which usually plays out in a very similar manner each game, the only caveat is that the camera work is if not completely the same, very similar each time you start up a game. Visually, the camera angles help make Madden one of the finer looking games in our genre.

But small steps here people. Small steps. The camera angles are indeed a very nice addition to the game and have made what was once a horribly boring game to play a little more exciting. 



It's so pretty

Madden NFL 12 is one of the best looking games in our genre. The stadiums, the lighting, the players -- they all look absolutely splendid. If you add in the right time of day, the way shadows are cast over a field can be just jaw dropping. The art team deserves a lot of praise for a lot of what makes Madden look just fantastic.

And let's not even stop there, the graphical overlays and the menus -- it's a visual buffet festival throughout the entirety of Madden NFL 12. Play a game in the late afternoon with Cowboys Stadium open with clear skies, that's the kind of visuals I think we all envisioned for this generation of consoles. 

Now there are some legit gripes, but they may lie in hardware limitations mores than anything else. The crowd can look really bad for sure, as can the sidelines. It's probably impossible to model 200 people on the sidelines and 80,000 good looking fans -- so I'm giving the Madden team a complete pass on that. 



Gary JOHNSON is a BAD announcer (at least in Madden)

Whatever the camera angles do for the game to start engrossing you into an NFL broadcast, you are continually reminded that the announcing is potentially the worst in this generation of consoles. Sorry Smackdown vs. Raw, you might've been one upped by Madden of all franchises -- although I'm not sure I'm ready to completely go that far yet.

Gus Johnson and Chris Collingsworth are either continually changing volumes, pitches or tones. Sometimes they are consistently behind a play. If they aren't doing any of that, they're calling players by the wrong name or worse, just calling them by their jersey number. And should I mention that Arizona has dropped the 's' from their name and followed the route of the Stanford Cardinal.

Everyone who isn't a hardcore college football fan still wonders what the heck that one's supposed to mean.

The commentary is really a poor showing in so many ways. At best, you can say the camera enhancements and commentary are a wash. At worst, you can say the commentary is so bad that the presentation often feels it's taken a step backwards.

The Other Sounds

There are some glitches within the sounds, and the crowd at times feels completely artificial and lifeless -- but the rest of the audio of theMadden package isn't too bad at all. The sound is not on a level that's great, but it's very solid.

A better way to put it is that everything else could use some work, but you aren't going to spend time saying the crowd noise, stadium music, etc. is atrocious. Granted, I was always taught that audio is 51 percent of your picture, but so long as the rest of the audio never sinks to the commentaries low of this year I think I'll feel OK about Madden.



Other Odds and Ends

The rest of the presentation and design of the game can really be summed up as a mixed bag. There are numerous gaffes in terms of uniforms and field art. There are even some things to do with other little details within the game. These are things that the hardcore fans of certain teams will see and be annoyed. But fans of the other 31 teams (or casual fans) will completely overlook them. So to make a big deal out of those issues is a big exercise in missing the point -- but I'd hope that in the future these are issues that are indeed cleared up.

Wrapping it Up

The Presentation has indeed taken a huge step up, but let's not lose perspective here people. Madden NFL 12's presentation is nowhere near great -- the audio issues and the other various issues hold the game quite a ways back from a level thats either great or classic. Madden NFL 12's presentation is good. It still lags far behind some other games in our genre which can be considered as having a great presentation to the user, the commentary alone guarantees that outcome.

But for those who's biggest gripe with Madden over the years hasn't been the gameplay, but the presentation, you are going to see an NFL game that finally looks like an NFL Broadcast. Just be sure to mute the commentators because the illusion is quickly broken the moment they begin to speak.


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# 21 malky @ 08/29/11 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TreyIM2
Ditto. It was the start of something that could have been great with continual work. Maybe they pulled it to improve on it for next yr. Doubt it but, eh, whatever....

I have to say that the presentation as far as the new cam angles and intros is nice but, of course, they get tired after a while. Been playing this game since Friday and I can't help but to feel bored of it after the demo excited me so much yet I'll stop there. It's about presentation here, right? And YEA the commentary sux!! Heh...
They should have kept the EXTRAPOINT in for the playoffs, beginning and end of the season, sort of how College Hoops2k use to do it, I think it's value would have been better until they found something new. Come on EA, get creative with your presentations!!!
 
# 22 jack1535 @ 08/29/11 12:51 PM
Wow I thought the Entrances were authentic. They Bills is wrong, the mascot stands on a platform above the players running out of the tunnel, and there is no blue up symbol it is a set of doors with the symbol on it.
 
# 23 cloverfield91 @ 08/29/11 07:01 PM
this is probably gonna sound dumb but im super happy they fixed the chargers helmet.
 
# 24 jack1535 @ 08/29/11 07:19 PM
If they dont have custom music playlsit I will be very pissed. It defeats the point of authentic intros if every team comes out to the same 5 songs.
 
# 25 SGMRock @ 08/29/11 07:20 PM
The coin toss always has your best players at certain positions and not your team captains.
 
# 26 CCK @ 08/30/11 12:12 AM
The commentary is a disaster. To even try and find a positive would be a lie to you all. As others notes, saying the team has great field position when they've been pinned down on the one, the constant wrong names and the changes in volume are ridiculous.

A couple of other examples. First, like when McNabb takes off, they'll talk about how the opposing defense is going to have to contain this great running back. Also, there was a great moment when I was up 38-0 in the fourth and I punted and put the computer on the 10. Johnson says to Chris "What is the road team going to have to do to get back in this game" and there was like 20 seconds of silence. Even computer programed Chris couldn't answer such a stupid question.

Two really annoying things. When introducing the Vikings offense, they continue to say how it is lead by Kevin Williams, even though I didn't resign him and he's been off my team for two years. Also, every coin toss they talk about what the road team is going to have to do for the game. Every single freaking game they say the exact same thing.

Finally, the introductions are not authentic. The vikings do not have some big goofy disney costumed guy riding out on a truck.
 
# 27 youALREADYknow @ 08/30/11 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Yep, that's what I heard, the commentary is horrible. Hopefully, with FIFA's sound technology, the future Madden's, starting with 13, will be vastly improved.
Can we get FIFA's physics and animation branching as well?

Seriously, just finished playing a game of FIFA 11 and the player interactions and ball physics seem light years ahead of Madden at times. And that's last year's game in a series where FIFA 12 is supposed to be far better.
 
# 28 roadman @ 08/30/11 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by youALREADYknow
Can we get FIFA's physics and animation branching as well?

Seriously, just finished playing a game of FIFA 11 and the player interactions and ball physics seem light years ahead of Madden at times. And that's last year's game in a series where FIFA 12 is supposed to be far better.
Maybe.

The new football director of both games comes from FIFA and Fight Night backgrounds, plus was a Division 2 starting QB.
 
# 29 youALREADYknow @ 08/30/11 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by roadman
Maybe.

The new football director of both games comes from FIFA and Fight Night backgrounds, plus was a Division 2 starting QB.
Good to know. I haven't kept up with the whole management fiasco after hearing Ian decided to call it quits.

FIFA is the saving grace for EA right now so hopefully that's where they go for inspiration.
 
# 30 stlstudios189 @ 08/30/11 12:36 PM
I love this time of year Madden gets us all worked up and at least one part of the game dissapoints us and it becomes a fun time here at OS. If they would just up the presentation and commentary to the max I think we wouldn't notice more of the little things.
 
# 31 MAzing87 @ 08/30/11 01:30 PM
Why are the players, specifically QBs, look as bulky as they do? I've played the demo over and over, and I was somewhat excited. After seeing some gameplay videos, something about Madden 12 just doesn't look right. I'll just rent it this time.
 
# 32 DanielDJohnson @ 08/30/11 07:46 PM
Constant freezing, bad commentary, failed Ncaa classes imports, this is a very disappointing game....
 
# 33 Pete1210 @ 08/30/11 09:34 PM
Presentation is awful. Halftime is a joke.
 
# 34 13whitebread @ 08/31/11 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SGMRock
I see way more stuff this year being called wrong by commentators. Its bad enough they sound lame as ever but do they have to say stuff like.

"And the Lions look to score again after getting the ball in excellent field position." Hmm after the defense just downed the ball on the 1 yrd line on a punt!!!!! Happens a lot, he said that when I had the ball at the 10, or 15 or 7....

He says lots of other things that are way off too. Collingsworth, don't get my started...

I like the camera stuff, I like the starting lineup things coming out on the field too but after seeing them 1x you just skip them. :P

I think its cool they show the offense and defensive lineup but its the same thing everytime. They always talk about the same player. So that also gets old, also in order to see a lot of the precentation stuff you have to make sure you don't press buttons to fast after plays or it skips them and you don't realize it.

The halftime thing shows some of the big plays but it needs some sort of voice overlay to have it be cool. Just showing the plays makes it pretty vanilla.
I disappointed about the game and lackluster ratings it is sad this year I was really thinking of picking up madden. But after poking around on OPS I will not be picking it up but may go after the college game. The presentation and the commentating have always been my pet peeves. Madden especially the following this game has the announcers should be flawless.
 

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