NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

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Submitted on: 09/23/2010 by

2K Sent us the overall ratings for every player in each team's starting five. Give the list a look through and let us know what you think! Did 2K rate your team right? Any surprises? Let us know!

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# 201 jeebs9 @ 09/23/10 04:56 PM

6-9 to be exact....lol

# 202 Kaanyr Vhok @ 09/23/10 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jr2424


	I think that's way too much of a stretch. He was good last year, really good. But that's it. No way did that one season vault him into one of the all-time great college basketball point guards. I'll just give you one example, though I know many here could give more: Oscar Robertson's three-year career at Cincy: 33.8 points, 15.2 rebounds, 7.1 assists. I know you're not comparing him to the Big O. I just don't want people people thinking that what Wall did was all-time. Wall's numbers by the way: 16.6 points, 6.5 assists and 4.3 rebounds.

I rest my case. If you have to go back to the 50s to find a PG with a substantially better freshman season then I have no problem calling Wall and alltime great.

# 203 stillfeelme @ 09/23/10 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pepp32


	WTF?! Rondo 87 and Rose 85.......lmao......Rose>Rondo

Rondo and Rose are very close 85, to 87 is not much of a difference.

Rondo has advantages on the defensive end that Rose doesn't have. I know yall played that demo Rondo is uber aggressive on defense and got 2.3 steals per game last year. I mean the guy is 1st team all defense in the NBA last year and he was on the second team the year before last. He led the league in steals, 4th in assists as well so I say his passing ratings should be better than Rose. So his awareness is probably better Rebounding Rondo is a better rebounder not just defense but offense. Neither are great perimeter shooters Rose is slightly better than Rondo but he isn't great from the perimeter. Rose is slightly better than Rondo from the freethrow line but he isn't great.

Rose advantage to me is his athleticism so his dunk rating would be higher. So I see why Rondo get the edge.

# 204 KB2009Champ @ 09/23/10 04:59 PM

i don't get what all the crying is about jennings. dude can't shoot period.

that alone is going to hurt him in the ratings. he's flashy, super streaky and he's not a good defender be happy with the rating he has.

most of the ratings are fine but some need to be tweaked a little.

the only one that is 10000000% off is the one for kleiza lmao. He should be in the high 60s at least.

some of the ratings that need to be tweaked are :
- CP3 is rated too high. He and DWill should have the same rating. There is a reason why 50% of people think CP3 is better and the other 50% think deron is
- Dirk is rated too low, only needs 1 or 2 more points though
- There is no explanation you can give me as to why Wall would be a 81 coming out of the box. Let him show that he can actually play in the nba before you put him in the 80s. That should be standard for all rookies. IMO he should be 78 at the max.
- Mgee, though raw is good enough to be in the low 60s.
- And finally tony parker. Dude has been injured but he's not a 78. no way. Gotta be in the 80s as well. If you going to dock him for his injuries do the same with Paul.

# 205 jr2424 @ 09/23/10 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	Dirk is not a great rebounding PF. So if anything, his rebounding numbers/ratings will not help his overall by much. Playoff numbers are not factored into overall ratings and attributes. Dirk isn't high in many qualities that make a PF rated high. Strength Low Post Def Def Aware Rebounding Blocks So why is it that you expect Dirk Nowitski to have a high overall rating as a power forward.

I think playoff numbers are part of it. How can you explain Rondo being an 87. Granted, he had a really good year last season, but his playoff push really put him on the map for the casual basketball fan. If he didn't have that performance, I think he would've been closer to an 84.

# 206 Kaanyr Vhok @ 09/23/10 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dropseven


	Nobody should be rated 97 anyway...that's too high and KD is a great scorer, but he plays no Defense and he's 6'11 and only averages 6 boards a game. Fair passer...decent ball handler.

Durant had a good year defensively. Better than Melo.

# 207 CJBEeZy @ 09/23/10 05:03 PM

Not really feeling these ratings....Drose should be atleast 88 or 90 and Noah gotta be an 80, John Wall should be in the 70's by far and where is Dwights 91.

# 208 stillfeelme @ 09/23/10 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	Dirk is not a great rebounding PF. So if anything, his rebounding numbers/ratings will not help his overall by much. Playoff numbers are not factored into overall ratings and attributes. Dirk isn't high in many qualities that make a PF rated high. Strength Low Post Def Def Aware Rebounding Blocks So why is it that you expect Dirk Nowitski to have a high overall rating as a power forward.

I agree 100% Dirk can score but it is usually from the perimeter a lot. Doesn't have many post moves. Basically he is a small forward in a power forward body.

# 209 CallMeDrop @ 09/23/10 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	Dirk is not a great rebounding PF. So if anything, his rebounding numbers/ratings will not help his overall by much. Playoff numbers are not factored into overall ratings and attributes. Dirk isn't high in many qualities that make a PF rated high. Strength Low Post Def Def Aware Rebounding Blocks So why is it that you expect Dirk Nowitski to have a high overall rating as a power forward.

I didn't know that PF's were graded by these qualities...lol

He averages 8.5 rebounds for his career. Amare average 8.9...so does Gasol
Amare's an 86 and Gasol's an 89. None of the 3 defend or block shots well.

Oh and sorry...NBA doesn't have a stat/career category for strength...

# 210 Colts18 @ 09/23/10 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jr2424


	I think playoff numbers are part of it. How can you explain Rondo being an 87. Granted, he had a really good year last season, but his playoff push really put him on the map for the casual basketball fan. If he didn't have that performance, I think he would've been closer to an 84.

Jr,

Playoff influence can be factored into certain ratings, but I don't think 2K is looking at playoff averages between Duncan and Dirk Nowitski do determine overall ratings. Those are two established star players, they know what those guys can do.

Rondo is different because he is still an up and coming talent, so looking at his success in the playoffs is a little more acceptable and necessary.

# 211 jr2424 @ 09/23/10 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaanyr Vhok


	I rest my case. If you have to go back to the 50s to find a PG with a substantially better freshman season then I have no problem calling Wall and alltime great.

You want me to continue?

Magic Johnson CAREER at MSU: 17.1 points, 7.6 rebounds, 7.9 assists. Not ONE year.

Penny Hardaway CAREER at Memphis State: 20 points, 7.7 rebounds, 5.9 assists.

You're talking about ALL-TIME greats? REALLY?

# 212 CallMeDrop @ 09/23/10 05:06 PM

Oh and if you think that KD is only 6'9...you should actually meet him. They even mentioned that he was almost 7 feet during the world championships.

They meaning his teammates and the commentators...

# 213 onyx030 @ 09/23/10 05:06 PM

i dont mind about one individuals overall rating but into relation to others.
duncan a 90 sounds to me like duncan in year 2004-06 and not 2010

# 214 dwillacy24 @ 09/23/10 05:07 PM

I'm Sorry but LeBron and Wade are NOT on the same level as Kobe. AT ALL!

# 215 Colts18 @ 09/23/10 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dropseven


	I didn't know that PF's were graded by these qualities...lol He averages 8.5 rebounds for his career. Amare average 8.9...so does Gasol Amare's an 86 and Gasol's an 89. None of the 3 defend or block shots well. Oh and sorry...NBA doesn't have a stat/career category for strength...

Yes DropSeven,

You can't just look at career numbers. The past season will be considered much more than career. Also, 8.5 is not high as I mentioned before.

Certain qualities weigh a little more heavily when the game calculates overall rating. The categories I named are the main categories for power forward players. Dirk Nowitski's skill are not reflective of his overall rating, but he can shoot the hell out of the ball. If he cannot shoot in 2K then I will complains.

Strength is not a stat you are correct but we know that Dirk is lacking in that department. Not a "power" forward

# 216 jr2424 @ 09/23/10 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	Jr, Playoff influence can be factored into certain ratings, but I don't think 2K is looking at playoff averages between Duncan and Dirk Nowitski do determine overall ratings. Those are two established star players, they know what those guys can do. Rondo is different because he is still an up and coming talent, so looking at his success in the playoffs is a little more acceptable and necessary.

I think for those two guys, if one had a phenomenal playoff, it might give that guy the edge over the other. Neither has had a tremendous playoff run in a while though.

# 217 DubTrey1 @ 09/23/10 05:11 PM

Ratings are just that - ratings. Until we actually play the finished product Oct. 5th, no one can really say for sure how these will play out. The demo is on Pro or whatever, So sliders etc may be the culprit at some things, but overall I think the ratings are fine since it looks like 2K made an effort to allow the real superstar players stand out from the other players. That's all... besides, by the 3rd day of release, someone on here will have an entire roster share available with "Ratings edits" that we can all download to our hearts content -

# 218 jeebs9 @ 09/23/10 05:12 PM

Why are people so surprised by CP3 being better then DWill? One thing is defense. Yea someone is going to say DWill plays good D too. But in CP3 case he makes a lot of steals on the defensive end. Deron doesn't....

Another factor is that CP3 is only 6'0. Remember "My Player" the small you were the more point you got?....just kidding about that..

But defense is what keeps them from being the same rating.

# 219 airjoca @ 09/23/10 05:12 PM

Many people underrate european players, including their respective NBA coaches...

# 220 Colts18 @ 09/23/10 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jr2424


	I think for those two guys, if one had a phenomenal playoff, it might give that guy the edge over the other. Neither has had a tremendous playoff run in a while though.

Jr.,

I think at this point, both of those men are established players in the history of the NBA. I don't think a great playoff would do much to influence their ratings.

As I mentioned, if they were young and unestablished players maybe.

But don't look at Dirk Nowitski's rating as a way that 2K doesn't think he is good.

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