That's a shame Shiny... really, that's a shame.

Thank you/Thank you! I rented both on release day, and do not understand the fascination with 2k. I've played both titles, but live gets the edge. Like the reviewer said, "2k has a ton of replay ability, and a host of bells and whistles, but LIVE is a better on court basketball experience." The perplexing thing for me is I loaned out my rented copies to a buddy for 8 hours, and he swears 2k is more realistic than Live-with Live being arcade like. I totally disagree! I challenge any 2k baller to play LIVE first, and then play 2k, and then make a decision.

Also, in regards to graphics. I prefer Live's. 2k's on the court experience is extremely busy, and I prefer Live's clean presentation. 2k players, however, looks more like their real life counterparts than LIVE.

These are my exact sentiments. While 2K is "better" in terms of just what it does, I don't feel it like I do with Live. I don't know how to describe it, other than Live just "feels" better, in almost all aspects, on the actual court where it matters

I always go for the best game and for the last 4 seasons it has been 2k. But after playing the Live Demo 1st and then playing 2k's I couldn't belive what I was about to do, but I was going to Live. I ain't a fan boy but for the past 4 years 2k had the best game but since im outta work I gotta play the funnest game. That's Live 10, 2k fan's take it how u want but after playing Live 10 I feel like I had fun and with all the things going on in my life now thats what I need. 2k10 wasn't horrible but for $60 I wanted more than a Roster Update with better graphics and when I start to feel like that it's time to change, For a company to get some of my unemployment check you gotta work hard and this yr i feel like Live 10 has done that. And I have played both games (Retail Versions) if anybody wants to know the slowdown in the paint on 2k is gonna hurt them and I don't even own 2k.

Put it like this live is a more easier game to play no learning curb what so ever thats why alot of people prefer live also it feels new 2k feels the same for years(if it aint broke dont fix it) In my opinion live is like that new girl at school that looks good you give her a try for a while then she get old fast. yeah and by the way if you practice and actually learns the 2k controls in and out it is so beautiful . Also you can post up when you want in 2k its a certain way you roll the left stick.

Very solid and honest review man. Usually you only get a one-sided opinion that results into bashing but I didn't get that from yours. Thumbs up

Ao defense, don't get it twisted, I know the controls of 2K very well and even wrote tutorials for the post game in the past. There was a little of a learning curve to the 2K game this year but not much. It wasn't the controls that hurt 2K this year, it was the lack of control due to the sliding and animations. If you think you can just pick up Live and there is no learning curve to it, you are sadly mistaken. There is a very big learning curve for Live 10. When I see comments like that I know it is obvious that you have not actually taken the time to learn the game. I have played both in depth. While I respect your opinion, I would encourage you to gain more knowledge about the game before you make comments like that because it doesn't look good on your part. People who know better probably read your comment and said, "He doesn't know what he is talking about." Play the game and learn it, then come back and comment.

I completely feel you MJJr. If I could say that the whole thing is based on gameplay it's Live hands down but, I'm not the only person that has an opinion. Lots of people put a lot stock in the other aspects of the game and 2K has been pounding Live in those areas for a while. EA will have to step it's game up if they want to have a better product. Live is a better basketball sim, no question. I stated that in the review.

One thing about me I dont speak on something that I dont know about. When I say no learning curve I haven't played a nba live game for more than 3 weeks since live 04. I pick up live I'm crushing guys who claim to play nothing but live games ,I learn everything a game can do and somethings that a tutorial dont show. Like on live if you press in the left thumbstick slightly pull back away from the goal you will post everytime as long as you are by the paint in 2k you can post by slightly rotating the thumbstick in a half circle away from ball hand post everytime near paint, and I dont know what????. I not bashing anything both are good games thats why I have them.

Actually Ao Defense, that doesn't work. I went into the game to see if there was some validity to your claim and to no avail. Last year you could post on Live with the right thumb stick, not the left by pressing in on it. They took that out of the game this year and it won't be back in until after the patch is released. I was told this by Mike Wang. 2K moved to automatic post up this year and it isn't working that well IMO. So, please let me know where you got this information from.

How can you enjoy a Basket Ball game where you have no control of what you are doing on the court. You might as well put the game on spectator mode. Graphics and presentation will NEVER replace gameplay. NOT NOW, NOT NEVER. LIve is def more fun to play.

If gameplay is the only thing that matters, why even bring up the other categories? Graphics?Presentation?Dynasty?Online? to say those things are bells and whistles is borderline laughable. If gameplay was the only thing that mattered Inside Drive would still be around curb stomping Live and 2k but unfortunately all 4 of those other categories were poorly done in that title imo.

The superiority of these games is based on preference not fact imo and those enjoy either title will have to overlook the faults that are present in BOTH imo.

Still a great, well thought out review.

That was a nice write up man. I would recomend a few edits...not that you missed anything, but would add to the overall punch that readers get.

Assign points for each section, and total them up in the end. Kinda like Czar does with the Battleground.

Also, I have both games, and my impressions mimic yours greatly. However, I do feel like live players look too glossy.

Again, great write up.

I have no problem with control in 2k or Live (different people = different experiences)

This is the same MJ that complained about the crowd not reacting to Lebron's chalk toss in 2k, and net physics right? These seem like superficial complaints imo when your main focus is gameplay. Be honest MJ, if you felt Live did achieve all those superficial elements such as graphics, presentation, dynasty, etc. you would be the first to say so and commend them for it. It would add to the overall greatness of the product would it not? Now all of a sudden it doesn't matter? To each his own...Enjoy whatever game you play MJ. I will be doing the same.