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Former Madden Developer's Epic Rant on Twitter Stuck
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 06:16 PM.


A few of you may know AJ Dembroski. He worked on the last two editions of Madden and before that, he was one of the top members of the sports gaming community.

Well last night he went on an epic mad rant about EA, how they treat games, and how they see games. In his own words, he feels EA treats games in a 'robotic' type of way.

Adem's biggest complaint of his time at EA seems to be that management simply doesn't seem to get games and instead wants to make money (aka the bottom line). He also seems upset at one of his fellow designers on Connected Careers for what he says messed the whole mode up.

Regardless, AJ leaving EA is a big blow to the team in my mind. He's one of the most passionate people in sports gaming historically, so there is no doubt losing that means there's big shoes to fill on the Madden team.

**caution for language, I'm presneting AJ's tweets in unedited fashion from start to finish.**

Quote:
It's funny... you get some real gainful employment, and the friends flock. You lose that, and they ****in' scatter.

I left EA recently... and boy howdy, did mother ****ers disappear. Fake *** friends.


I know everyone's gonna want me to dish the dirt on EA. I ain't about to do that. Good friends I left behind. I'm not going to **** on them.



and honestly, EA treats their people well. They really do. The EA Wife letter... I dunno, I didn't experience that. Good people there.


But I AM glad to be rid of them. It wasn't what I'd imagined. It wasn't what I'd hoped.


Sadly, any corporate involvement in a creative business is doomed to fail.


Because creativity is stiffed by corporate culture. It's sad that so many brilliant people at EA are held back by corporate structure.

There are great... GREAT people at EA. I wanna call out John White and Patrick Bellanca in particular...

You'll be hearing a lot from Pat, I think he's going to be the media focus going forward for Madden... and deservedly so. He's awesome

point is, if you're following me for my connection to Madden, please unfollow, I'm done with Madden, and happy about it.

like Phil Frazier and Ian Cummings, I found myself questioning my own ****ing self-worth because of it.

Ian, for the record, was awesome. I feel like if he hadn't moved on, I'd still be there. I miss his *** so much.

we'd have never been friends outside of work. He just wasn't my kinda dude. But he KNEW his team, KNEW what his people were capable of.

And knew not to push them further then they could be pushed.


Ian Cumming is going to be a legend in this business when it's all said and done.


but Sports is not the place to make that happen.

EA is held back by being a publicly traded company. that'll never change.


I'd go so far as to say J.R. is a good dude, but he doesn't understand GAMES. He thinks of them as a collective of statistics.


I think Metrics are the worst things to happen to gaming.


Breaks everything down to numbers, without the benefit of reason.


So a football game wants to reach feature parody with Call of Duty... without the realization that theyre different ****in games.


"Call of Duty Numbers" is the be-all-end-all of the industry. And genre's other than realistic FPS's suffer.


Games like FTL (go to steam, look it up, BUY IT!!!!) suffer because corporate America wants the "design by numbers" bull****.


There were 4 designers on CCM... 3 of them competent. The incompetent one undid most of what we did and ****ed it all up.


Micah Brown is still there, still kicking ***, and appreciate that dude, because he'll move on to something FAR better eventually.


@Matt_Doza I'm glad to not be at EA. Very glad. The culture really sucked me dry. I found myself missing driving taxi, of all things.


@rudyjuly2 I am not willing to get into specific things like that. Looman works hard. I don't agree with many of his decisions. ( continued


@rudyjuly2 ... but he works hard for you guys. he does.


@rudyjuly2 @Bgamer90 That was SOO stupid. The NBA life team is SOO good. Like, really, really good.


@Bgamer90 @rudyjuly2 I do too. Most of the team that's making it agrees. So much to redo. The team wants greatness, they rare dedicated.


NBA Live is going to be AWESOME if the team that's making it is not interfered with. As long as the GAME people make the decisions.


That said, the moment "corporations" get involved, all bets are off.


@rudyjuly2 @Bgamer90 I ****ing know, right! NBA Live 10 was a HUGE step forward. Understandm the guys working on the game know that.


I'll be serious, I might be SERIOUSLY ****ing myself over just saying what I have. I don't want to screw whatever chance I have to...


.. remain in gaming... but I'm so frustrated right now, and YOU people get lied too so much, I kinda feel like I'll find something on Karma.


but seriously... don't trust EA. Not because they're bad. They do good by their people, really. But because they're robotic.


Paint by numbers. They see video games as a collection of features. They don't understand the artistic aspect of it.


And they NEVER ****ing will. EVER! Nor will any corporate entity.


I'm not going to sit here and dump on people who worked their asses off on CCM, no matter how much I dislike them. It's not their fault.
What do you all think? What do AJ's comments mean to you? Do they confirm anything? Do you think it's only half of the story? Sound off by commenting!
Comments
# 31 jwilphl @ Dec 5
He articulated exactly why I've essentially stopped purchasing EA products. I'll admit I'm not 100% off the train yet, but my spending on their products has dwindled considerably in the last five years. The fact is, they don't produce product worth the investment of my time and money. I get they produce quantity over quality for reasons mostly relating to their business model. It is their job to earn as much profit as possible. I can't hate them for it, that is capitalism. But I can quit consuming the product when it no longer relays any benefits to me, and that's the road that's coming.

Eventually, I hope it will work itself out as consumers wise up. Unfortunately, though, the general populace probably doesn't care about the end product as much as us here at OS. The more casual gaming public thinks Madden is forever awesome--and it may be under some classifications--but it isn't football. NCAA has been dreadful this entire generation because of the lack of progress and legacy gameplay flaws. Although I haven't owned a Madden game in years, I've played them, and can say many of the same issues exist there.

Lack of innovation, progress, and even simple improvement are certainly the biggest detriments to the future of these franchises. Of course NCAA may die off for other reasons, and EA can no longer monopolize the NFL license, but I have little hope of another developer coming in and taking up the challenge. If I knew how to program games, I'd give it a shot myself haha.

As long as this is the status quo, I don't envision much in the way of change. Money rules all, and in most instances, creative vision is second to profit.
 
# 32 panthersfanstev @ Dec 5
I totally understand what AJ is saying here. The corporate mentality is to spend as little as possible and get the most return. What happens is you lose out on features and improvements that could be made, that could be revolutionary, because they just don't bring enough "return on investment". They know they have the "exclusive" license and a huge marketing machine to sell the product. It is not a game to them, and creativity means nothing. They are selling a product and looking for ROI for the investors. It's a shame, EA was a beast before they got so big. The lack of advancement in their titles (stagnation) is hurting the videogame industry.
 
# 33 inkcil @ Dec 7
Waaa waaa waaa...bottom line is those guys don't know how to make a good football game. What is it exactly that the suits are doing to prevent them from making the game better than something another CORPORATION did LAST gen? Absolutely nothing, that's what. The game has no SOUL to it. They don't know how to edit sound and other BASIC presentation element appropriatley, they don't know how to create models that make you feel like you are actually controlling unique individuals on the playing field, they don't know how to iron out glitches like DBs running OFF the field and RB's being TACKLED by their own WIDE RECEIVER. EA is full of it and so is this dude.
 

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