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Got Cheese? Stuck
Posted on January 6, 2009 at 12:16 AM.
After spending some time last night playing some NHL 09 online, I got thinking about the subject of cheesing in video games. Now I know that it's probably going to exist, as long as people have the ability to do it. Is it feasible to tie up every single loose end when it comes to cheeses inside sports video games? Probably not. After all, it's just computer AI at the end of the day. It's only as smart as the people who program it. This gave me an idea on how to handle cheesers in the online arena.

What if there were a mark next to every player who's been voted as a cheeser. This mark would show up on the leader boards (almost like *Barry Bonds). It would also display during the match creation screen, when picking teams. This way, if you didn't want to play a cheeser, you could simply back out before the game started. I think it'd punish cheesers enough that people may reconsider doing that backwards-breakaway goal in NHL 09, or the S-move in the old 2k hockey series. Who would seriously want to play a cheeser in a ranked match if they knew the other player's playing style going in? Most people prefer to play a straight up game, regardless of the sport.

Now, you may think that players would just begin giving bad "cheeser ratings" simply because they lost. Maybe this is true, maybe it's not. This is why I think the ratings should be weighted based on the person giving the review. If the person is ranked high, with very little cheeser marks on his/her name, their vote at the end of the game would hold a lot of weight. If you're low ranked, and you have a bunch of cheeser hits yourself, your vote counts for a lot less. I believe the weighted votes from higher ranked players who've shown that they don't cheese can recognize a cheeser as good as anyone. I also believe they want the game clean, so they wouldn't just give someone a cheeser mark because they lost the game. If I lose to someone in a legit manner, I'll be the first one to say how good of a game they played.

To get even more specific to NHL 09, and how to fix the problem, I'll lay down an even more detailed idea. The EASHL is known for tons of cheese. It has almost ruined the league. Division 1 in the EASHL holds the title of "cheeseheads" more than Green Bay, Wisconsin. What if, like above, there were marks next to every team that accrues more than "x" percent of players on their team marked as cheesers. So, at the end of each game, you're given a list of all the opponents that you played against. Again, you mark the ones who cheesed. You can also mark if they played a good game, to add weight to that opponents future votes towards other cheesers out there. If they played a good game, you say "non-cheeser." From that point forward, that player holds more weight with his vote. When starting up a new EASHL ranked game, it will show the mark next to their name at the match-ups screen before entering the game. Simply back out if you don't want to play a cheesing team.

I know it's not the perfect solution, but I think it'd help crack down on the cheese that ruins so many online games. Who wants to have a cheese asterisks next to their name or teams name? It'd be a permanent scar on the face of your online identity. If you got it, you earned it. It's that simple. You didn't just accidentally earn that cheese mark next to your name or team. Someone with a credible opinion voted you as one. I'm sorry if nobody wants to play with you anymore. Perhaps another cheeser would like to play with you, as that's about all you'd have left after you received that mark.

Enjoy your new mark, cheeser!
Comments
# 1 rawgamer @ Jan 6
I played with you in those sad games last night and I must say you make a lot of good points. I would take it one step further and have it just filter out the cheesers kind of like you can filter out people of higher skill levels. You wouldn't even have to back out.The same goes for the disconnect people.
 
# 2 jyoung @ Jan 6
I support this idea 100%.

Unfortunately, I don't think the game companies will, because cheesers make up the majority of the playing population, and no one likes being ostracized from a community, regardless of how deserving they are of the "punishment."
 
# 3 Acedeck @ Jan 6
It's not anything I ever expect to happen, but it's a pipe dream. It's what true sim gamers deserve.
 
# 4 JohnDoh @ Jan 6
I agree with your assessment 100%, but again, doubt it could ever happen because the majority of gamers are ****** fans and do whatever they can to score or to exploit the CPU AI. I run an online dynasty for NCAA Football and have to constantly weed out the cheesers - it's a pain!
 
# 5 DEA7H13 @ Jan 8
But people like me will mess up the system and everyone will have cheese next to em. I would just report cheeser to people i have never played, and if i have played them i would do it anyways weather they did or didn't.
 
# 6 Acedeck @ Jan 9
There would be a stipulation to the system's rules. If you give more than "x"% of all people the "cheese" rating, then your vote no longer counts. Problem solved.
 
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