whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

[whosnext00]

whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro sliders for realistic simulation play!



Updated 10/5/2016
PS4 GAMERTAG: KINGHUBBARD

Madden is back and better than ever in my opinion. NFL 2K5 move over!

Game Options

Quarter Length - 15 Minutes (+7)
Plays are realistic and yards are between 280-420 per team. NFL average is 346 yard per team. Auto-Subs should fix individual stats when it's working.
Accelerated Clock - 12 Sec (+12)
Get the occasional delay of game by CPU just like in NFL
Game Speed - Slow
Auto Flip Defensive Play Call - On
Ball Carrier Special Move - Manual
Defensive Auto Strafe - On
Defensive Ball Hawk - On
Defensive Heat Seeker Assist - On
Defensive Switch Assist - On
Coach Mode - Off
Injuries - 48 (-2)
Fatigue - 60
KEEP 50 IN MAIN MENU
Player Speed Parity Scale - 100 (Football is a game of inches)

CFM Options

Skill Level - All-Pro
Game Speed - Slow
League Type - All
Instant Starer - Off
Trade Deadline - On
Trade Type - Enable All
Coach Firing - On
Salary Cap - On
Relocation Settings - Everyone
Injury - On
Pre Existing Injury - Off
Practice Squad Stealing - On
Player Progression Frequency - Every Four Weeks
Fill Roster - Off
Re-Sign Players - Off
Progress Players - Off
Sign Off-Season Free Agents - Off
Tutorial Pop-Ups - Off

Penalties
DO NOT EDIT - 100+ HOURS OF TESTING

True NFL: 5-9 penalties per game, occasional 1 or 13. Order of frequency are Offensive Holding, False Start, Offsides, Defensive Holding, Pass Interference, Facemask, Illegal Block in the Back, Roughing the Passer

Offside - 85
False Start - 50 (-5)
There were too many back to back false starts
Offensive Holding - 80
Defensive Holding - 80
Facemask - 55
Defensive Pass Interference - 90
Illegal Block In The Back - 50
Roughing The Passer - 50
All other penalties are on

Human/CPU Sliders
Values are the same for both

True NFL: Running game - Bad = 2.8-3.2ypc, Good = 3.7-4.2ypc, Great = 4.5-5.2ypc. Passing - 52-67% avg completion, 6-9ypa

QB Accuracy - 5 (-5)
Pass Blocking - 0
Prevent suction blocking
WR Catching - 50
Experimenting with WR Catching at 100 for ball fights and proper targeting
Run Blocking - 60 (+60)
Don't need to compensate by lowering tackle slider which create far too many broken tackles
Fumbles - 50

Reaction Time - 100
Interceptions - 50
Pass Coverage - 100
Tackling - 60 (+35)
Reduces broken tackles to realistic amount

FG Power - 50
FG Accuracy - 45
Punt Power - 50
Punt Accuracy - 55
Kickoff Power - 75

Auto-Subs

I decided to go with Flazko's and JoshC1977's iteration of Auto-Subs and fatigue for now unless I decide to do some more experimenting with it.

(Based off JoshC1977's Auto Subs with a few tweaks of my own, you must input settings accordingly in Main Menu and in CFM to get results, Keep fatigue at 60 in cfm and 50 in main menu. If you lower quarter time, higher fatigue in cfm. Always keep fatigue at 50 in Main Menu.)


Main Menu Out / In

QB : 0/1
RB : 0/80
WR : 0/60
FB/TE : 0/50
OL : 0/1

DT : 0/90
DE : 0/90
LB : 0/75
CB : 0/65
S : 0/65


CFM Out / In

QB : 0/1
RB : 60/80
WR : 60/80
FB/TE : 60/80
OL : 0/1

DT : 60/80
DE : 60/80
LB : 60/80
CB : 60/80
S : 60/80

XP Sliders

Check out TDawgs Thread!

I have had a great time with this years Madden, more than any other in a long time. Thank you EA for finally making a game that's fun again!

I have edited this post after hours of learning more about the game and how things work.

NOTES:
2 penalties some games, and 13 some games.
1.9ypc some games and 9ypc some games.
35% completion percentage some games and 80% some games.
Main receiver will get targeted a lot some games and others not as much.
Total Offensive yards will be 500 some games and 200 some games.
12 TFL some games and 0 some games.
Most realistic is to pick the gameplan play instead of cheese.

Bod Scores

Bad Game

Miami Dolphins at Brooklyn Bulls
Oct 6, 2016	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Miami Dolphins (4-7)	3	9	6	5	23
Brooklyn Bulls (5-7)	3	0	3	7	13

Team Stats Comparison
	MIA	BLK
Total Offense	342	190
Rushing Yards	106	15
Passing Yards	236	175
First Downs	16	10
Punt Return Yards	19	13
Kick Return Yards	73	128
Total Yards	434	331
Turnovers	2	0
3rd Down Converstion	10	2
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/3	1/0
Penalties	37 yards	30 yards
Posession Time	39:44	20:16

Miami Dolphins PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Ryan Tannehill 27/37 - 72% 246 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Karlos Williams St. 32 108 3.4 0 Kenyan Drake 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Devante Parker 8 85 10.6 1 Jordan Cameron 6 75 12.5 0 Jarvis Landry 4 23 5.8 0 Niles Paul 4 34 8.5 0 Kenyan Drake 2 23 11.5 0 Leonte Carroo 1 2 2.0 0 Karlos Williams Sr. 1 -3 -3.0 0 Bennie Fowler III 1 7 7.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Austin Barnidge 0 1 Other 5 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Patrick Asiodu 7 1 0 0 Reshad Jones 6 0 0 0 Bobby McCain 5 0 0 0 More... KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Billy Cundiff 5/5 0/0 15 39 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Matt Darr 6 252 42.0 1

Brooklyn Bulls PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Connor Shaw 18/36 - 50% 213 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Cameron Cummings 8 14 1.8 0 Connor Shaw 2 1 0.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Kevin Lawler 5 68 13.6 0 Cameron Cummings 5 28 5.6 0 Robert Herron 4 52 13.0 0 Nick Boyle 2 33 16.5 0 Devon Cajuste 2 32 16.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Oday Aboushi 1 2 Jordan Mills 0 1 Andrew McDonald 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Jordan Richards 12 0 0 0 Barkevious Mingo 11 0 0 0 Brandon Williams 10 0 0 0 PJ Dawson 10 .5 0 0 Bjoern Werner 9 .5 0 0 DJ Swearinger 8 0 0 0 More... KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Josh Scobee 2/3 1/1 7 44 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Robert Malone 7 274 39.1 3 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Demarcus Ayers 2 44 22.0 0 Jalen Saunders 4 84 21.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Jalen Saunders 2 13 6.5 0

Good Game

Green Bay Packers at Brooklyn Bulls
Oct 6, 2016	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Green Bay Packers (7-5)	5	7	6	0	18
Brooklyn Bulls (5-7)	7	14	6	3	30

Team Stats Comparison
	GNB	BLK
Total Offense	322	447
Rushing Yards	66	270
Passing Yards	256	177
First Downs	15	19
Punt Return Yards	5	7
Kick Return Yards	90	62
Total Yards	417	516
Turnovers	2	1
3rd Down Converstion	8	7
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	0/2	1/1
Penalties	20 yards	55 yards
Posession Time	27:39	32:21

Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Aaron Rodgers 21/40 - 52% 265 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Eddie Lacy 18 60 3.3 0 Myles Mayle 2 6 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Richard Rodgers 6 48 8.0 0 Jordy Nelson 4 50 12.5 0 Jimmy Baugher 4 41 10.3 0 Eddie Lacy 2 51 25.5 0 Ty Montgomery 2 42 21.0 1 Devante Adams 2 22 11.0 0 Jared Abbrederis 1 11 11.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Totals 3 3 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Nick Perry 14 2.5 0 0 Margan Burnett 11 0 0 0 Donald Butler 8 1 0 0 Mike Daniels 5 .5 0 0 More... KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Mason Crosby 3/3 1/1 10 50 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Britton Colquitt 5 219 43.8 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Ty Montgomery 5 90 18.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Ty Montgomery 1 5 5.0 0

Brooklyn Bulls PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Mike Young Sr. 16/23 - 69% 210 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Cameron Cummings 32 276 8.6 2 Mike Young Sr. 5 -5 -1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Nick Boyle 7 111 15.9 0 Kenny Stills 5 54 10.8 0 Kolby Listenbee 2 35 17.5 1 Nate Whitlock 1 1 1 0 Barry Wall 1 9 9.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Oday Aboushi 1 0 Jordan Mills 0 3 Andrew McDonald 1 0 Others 3 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Barkevious Mingo 9 1 0 0 DJ Swearinger 9 0 0 0 Kemal Ishmael 8 0 0 0 PJ Dawson 10 0 0 0 Scooby Wright III 6 0 1 0 Emmanuel Ogbah 2 1 0 0 Lamar Langley 1 1 0 0 Fernando Cargile 4 0 1 0 More... KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Kyle Brindza 1/3 3/3 6 38 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Robert Malone 2 92 46.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D'joun Smith 1 12 12.0 0 Jalen Saunders 3 50 16.7 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Jalen Saunders 1 7 7.0 0

[Sajiky]

What do you mean by weather progression? Also if 0 - 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 are all that matters for skill sliders why would fatigue be any different?

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sajiky

What do you mean by weather progression? Also if 0 - 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 are all that matters for skill sliders why would fatigue be any different?

I mean day and night

You're right about fatigue but I haven't gotten there yet so decided to use Josh's solution for now.

[Playmakers]

Welcome back

I have a question for you are you seeing a crazy amount of one hand or spc catch animations with wr catch at 50 or higher?

It seems like by lowering the slider it not only provides more passes that are off target but it also seems to reduce the amount of one handed grab attempts and spc catches....

There's more natural looking catches when you go below 50 IMO.....

I'm close to some of those settings already using a pro level setup in favor of cpu to equal up the playing field and it's been coming along pretty good.....

Thanks for sharing your thread.....i will study your findings and see if i can implement them further on Pro level which is where i believe has underrated gameplay after some slider tweaks.

[Grandview2015]

I used 100 with Armor sliders wow!

I couldn't stop Denver on D. Ware and Miller played like Ware and Miller

Their CB's stayed with Hilton

You have to adjust playcalling. Denver should be a stud D. 100 lets the movements by CPU and OL not slow down

[Teleo]

Whosnext,

Glad you're back! The findings that you and playmakers did on QB chart back on Madden 12 was groundbreaking...On Madden 12, you developed your sliders for CPU vs CPU...will this year's sliders be for that style of play or for user vs cpu oriented?

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

Welcome back I have a question for you are you seeing a crazy amount of one hand or spc catch animations with wr catch at 50 or higher? It seems like by lowering the slider it not only provides more passes that are off target but it also seems to reduce the amount of one handed grab attempts and spc catches.... There's more natural looking catches when you go below 50 IMO..... I'm close to some of those settings already using a pro level setup in favor of cpu to equal up the playing field and it's been coming along pretty good..... Thanks for sharing your thread.....i will study your findings and see if i can implement them further on Pro level which is where i believe has underrated gameplay after some slider tweaks.

@Playmaker... WAZZUUUUUPPP!!!!

Actually no I haven't seen that with WR Catch above 50. It's very interesting about your Pro project, please post some stuff (in a new thread of course :-) )

My goal here is to hopefully keep default and use other adjustments to fix the issues. Right now I am seeing the best stats I have ever seen in Madden, I mean they're near perfect in nearly all aspects! My LBs are even getting proper amount of tackles lol

It appears that penalties directly affect how the game plays and they need to be adjusted anyway to get the proper amount which is 5-9 on average and about 1 Pass Interference every 3 games or so which you'll see with my Penalty set.

Anyway, cool to see you here and please do post your findings. I'll post my set soon because people are probably trying out the above settings without knowing all of my settings lol and thinking it's garbage.

Also I could be wrong about the 0, 25, 50, 75, 100 thing because it negates what we worked on with Madden 12 so it's simply a guess at this point but an educated guess as I'm a developer as well. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of it but I hate when people downvote threads when they don't know what they're talking about.

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by Teleo

Whosnext, Glad you're back! The findings that you and playmakers did on QB chart back on Madden 12 was groundbreaking...On Madden 12, you developed your sliders for CPU vs CPU...will this year's sliders be for that style of play or for user vs cpu oriented?

Well I always develop my sliders starting with CPU vs CPU because it provides an even playing field on all fronts and it's impossible to compensate for everyones playing styles and skill levels. This year I"m focused on realism.