Back to Default All Star... It's fantastic

[slthree]

I'm a big fan of most of the slider guys. Been following them for years.

I played about 7 games ( not having completed every one) before I started tinkering and plugging in sliders from a few guys. I figured I had to since I've always done it.

But, yesterday, I got sick of tinkering and decided to go back to default everything, All Star for pitching and Hitting.

I've played just 5 full games (no quick counts) and have had the best games I've ever had playing The Show. Everything seemed right and I saw all the things we like to see, like: a difference in average verse elite fielders, balls getting over outfielders heads, dominant pitchers owning me and average pitchers giving me a fighting chance.

It may just be placebo. Heck, this feeling may not last 20 or 30 games in. At this point, I'm exhausted for all the combinations I've tried. But, for now, I feel great with the experience.

Will anyone else try this to see if I'm alone in this assessment?

[Suvorov]

It's not a placebo. I have great games using default All Star settings. I think these slider guys are chasing Bigfoot. After about 10 play now games, using default All Star settings, I have had games where I blew out the other team and games where I was blown out. I had good games hitting and bad games hitting. I had good games pitching and bad games pitching. I have walked and given up walks. I have seen several errors in one game and no errors in a game.

I used to be one of those guys that chased sliders as well, trying to find the perfect sliders, but it's an impossibility. People tend to change sliders, play one or two games, and decide something else needs changing. But the fact is, you would need to play 20+ games with a slider set, to compare stats, and to be honest, even that wouldn't be enough to give true randomness of possible outcomes in a game.

You would need to play hundreds, if not thousands of games, to get a true variance and be able to determine if a slider setting is truly correct or not.

The other thing about sliders, is that everyone plays differently. I may not hit as well as player A, but hit better than Play C. Therefore, a slider set that works for me, may not work for either of the other players. Not worth all the hassle.

[wizfan2]

I am with you, with only limited playing time(the whole work, family & mortgage deal)only played 6 games using a variety of different teams, I too am getting varying results. Started a test Season just to get a feel for the game using different teams but I have decided I am just gonna pick my Nats & 1 AL team and just roll with it. I have only adjusted down 1 click on baserunner speed(an inside the park by Yasmany Tomas at Chase) & cpu pitch strke frequency. I have just come to the conclusion that I don't have the time to become OCD with the game, so far as rosters & sliders. I just enjoy the gameplay sooooo much.

[steelerfan]

So, to recap, slider guys would need to play thousands of games with a set to know if they're good but you guys are on board with default after 6, 7 and 10 games?

Makes sense.

I do agree 100% that sliders have to be tailored by the individual user. Some sliders like Injuries, Stamina, Manager Hook, Pickoffs, Steal Frequency, Wind and Trade Frequency (and maybe a few others) should be good for everyone. Aside from those, the results will vary which is why I do my own with every game I play (I'll use other's sets as a guide on occasion).

Hopefully you guys can get the enjoyment you want out of default.

[Fiddy]

Pretty sure I'm going default all star myself for my franchise when the opening day rosters hit. I get tired of the slideritus. So many sets, so many great insights from those slider creators. It starts to drive me nuts and i end up combining things i like from sets etc. So default it is this year for me (maybe lol).

[Armor and Sword]

This game is so easy to lock in your own custom settings.....I am talking eaaaaaasy. The is a testament to the developer team. This is the best tuned sports game out of the box bar none.

Most slider sets for The Show are specific to a certain play style, settings, cameras, approach etc.

Takes hundreds or thousands of games? No I don' think so.

Took me a week and half and 30 test games to lock in my settings. Just a little effort to give me 1000's of hours of baseball gaming pleasure.

I am off and running.

Default All-Star is great.....nothing wrong with it at all. But some of us like certain things and a few knob turns get us there. Lumping in all slider makers is not a fair assessment. I can only speak for myself.....I just share my settings that appeal to a certain style of sports gamer. There is no magic bullet. And we are simply sharing and trying to help people enjoy the game more.

Simple as that. Take them of leave them as a base for you to build your own tweaks.

But Chasing Bigfoot? Come on man. And for the record....it's not rocket science. I think anyone is capable of making custom tweaks to their own game whenever they want. If you have played sports games long enough....you know exactly what your looking for.

It default floats your boat....AWESOME.

The best way though to choose a base set is know your skill level, settings you like to pitch and hit with and find a slider thread that fits that as close as possible. Once you start jumping thread to thread...it's a black hole.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelerfan

I do agree 100% that sliders have to be tailored by the individual user. Some sliders like Injuries, Stamina, Manager Hook, Pickoffs, Steal Frequency, Wind and Trade Frequency (and maybe a few others) should be good for everyone.

Those are individual as well.

There is no "good for everyone" setting on any slider.

[steelerfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

Those are individual as well. There is no "good for everyone" setting on any slider.

I said "should".

Stamina, injuries, etc. "should" be universal as long as your goal is to mirror real life.