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Old 02-23-2006, 02:52 PM   #1154
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Their thread isn't nearly as long, but contains a few nuggets. Plus, extra points for the #1 MF fanboy showing up there:

02-16-2006, 01:04 AM #61
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"Next Week" is an official release date. Eric Rutkins thinks that the game is ready on Monday. So "Monday" is the target.



This will be part of Updates. You can improve every game so MF is never like all other games finished.



Thinks. Target. These are not words that indicate a certainty. I'm still not holding my breath. And part of updates? No, you mean, part of patching because the programmer goofed off for a year without adding anything of value to the game. Honestly it sounds to me like he's half-assing it and relying on the third party developers to do most of the dirty work for him.


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Here i am not really surprised when you look at all the bashing , prejudicies and assumptions based on rumors and false "facts".

When you read many posts you have to think that all these users have invested money in this project and want now a return. Many of these suggegstions did not realize that there is a difference between what he can do and what is (at the moment) impossible. But the simple fact is DW is the developer and decides how this game will look. The user has right to achieve correct informations so he can decide if he wants this game but he can claim nothing more. Even when DW sas now MF will never released you can claim nothing. On the other said DW can not claim that you like his game. It is only offer.


I'm sorry, but a guy who publically whines about quitting a project he's been working on for four or five YEARS, whatever the exact amount is, a few WEEKS before the alleged release date strikes me as someone who doesn't have the commitment or the stomach for the business.

Criticism is a natural part of any business world and if he's so thin-skinned he can't recognize that he deserves a lot of flak for his repeated delays, pathetic add-on features after having an entire year to add a career mode (the reason the last delay was given for), then he has absolutely no business being an independent developer and should contribute what talents he might have to a larger corporation, where he has a much smaller audience to deal with.

But oh wait, that'd mean he'd have to meet deadlines in a timely fashion, wouldn't he?

This kid's got a lot of growing up to do and I strongly believe he's going to face an even more powerful firestorm of criticism when the game comes out than what he's faced now. When you've taken this long to work on a project and the game feels incomplete, the sim engine is busted, or there's major, major bugs, etc... whatever the problems are, you're going to get a hell of a lot more heat for it.

Maybe he'll prove me wrong and the product will actually turn out decent. Maybe he'll stop being so defensive and condemning of those who offer critiques of his game.

But right now, from where I stand, there's a better chance of my hooking up a threesome with Amy Lee and Kirsten Dunst than either of those things happening.
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02-17-2006, 10:36 PM #62
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I think he underestimated things a tad. This is from his home page.

"Expect to see Maximum-Football available in 2002."
David Winters
April 2001



Well, here's the new slogan then:

"Maximum Football: hey, it's only five years late!"
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02-18-2006, 11:41 AM #68
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What about Football Mogul? Is it alright? Can you actually play games like FOF, or is it just the financial/GM role you fill.

In any case, I hope that FOF comes out with a new version soon. Something more customizable. I thought the game engine was very good, or at least good enough for Arlie(?) to consider other improvements.

BTW, is Skydog Arlie? I haven't seen him post in a while.
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Is that from the guy's wife?

Oh brother.

GH



Yes. Oh sorry, no, its from "Media Relations" LOL

I love the condescending tone in it, looking down on anyone who dares to criticize all these endless delays.

You would think they were releasing shareware or something.
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Yesterday, 07:18 PM #84
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I'm sure that will put out all those public relations fires! Good job!
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Yesterday, 08:43 PM #85
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Next post is from his mom.


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Next post is from his mom.

Are you sure you don't you mean the "Laundry Relations Liason"?
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