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ISiddiqui 11-21-2020 06:06 PM

The proTrump protest in Atlanta is also saying if Republicans don't help Trump steal the election they will withhold support for Republicans, especially in the runoff...

Oh no....

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Ben E Lou 11-21-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3315226)
The proTrump protest in Atlanta is also saying if Republicans don't help Trump steal the election they will withhold support for Republicans, especially in the runoff...

Oh no....

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See, I read that as something far more troubling: "we will no longer support any Republican who isn't all-in for Trumpism."

Ben E Lou 11-21-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3315217)
One thing I have thought: couldn't this full on attack on the election system actually dissuade Trumpers from voting making it seem futile?




I think it'll turn Republican Primaries into a Trump loyalty test.


GrantDawg 11-21-2020 07:26 PM

It already is, Ben.

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cuervo72 11-21-2020 08:01 PM

Troubling for whom?

GrantDawg 11-21-2020 09:11 PM

Kelly Loeffler may or may not have Covid. Is in isolation. Spent all day yesterday with Pence.

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Ksyrup 11-21-2020 09:29 PM

Rick Scott is also positive and he was in GA recently. Not sure if he was with her specifically though.

GrantDawg 11-21-2020 09:35 PM

Trump is asking for another recount has in Georgia. He gets to lose Georgia yet again.

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Ksyrup 11-21-2020 10:07 PM

The mid-80s Braves didn't lose this much in Georgia.

GrantDawg 11-22-2020 07:54 AM


Ksyrup 11-22-2020 08:59 AM

When you've lost Chris Christie...

Lathum 11-22-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3315264)
When you've lost Chris Christie...


What is this in reference to?

Ksyrup 11-22-2020 09:58 AM


GrantDawg 11-22-2020 10:44 AM

Kemp is a loyal Trumpist. Because he refuses to break the law for Dear Leader:

SackAttack 11-22-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3315269)
Kemp is a loyal Trumpist. Because he refuses to break the law for Dear Leader:


It's funny because Chavez died almost ten years ago. Yet another right-wing claim that the leftist liberal socialists have time machines they use to embarrass the right.

HUGO CHAVEZ LAID A PLOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION FROM ME.

...Really? more than a decade before you were anything but a laughingstock politically, he knew you'd be President, running for re-election, and that the only way you'd lose is if he, Hugo Chavez, reached out from beyond the grave to bitchslap your ass?

Atocep 11-22-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 3315271)
It's funny because Chavez died almost ten years ago. Yet another right-wing claim that the leftist liberal socialists have time machines they use to embarrass the right.

HUGO CHAVEZ LAID A PLOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION FROM ME.

...Really? more than a decade before you were anything but a laughingstock politically, he knew you'd be President, running for re-election, and that the only way you'd lose is if he, Hugo Chavez, reached out from beyond the grave to bitchslap your ass?


The redacted portions of the Mueller investigation lays out how Stalin stole the 2016 election from Dems.

Lathum 11-22-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3315269)
Kemp is a loyal Trumpist. Because he refuses to break the law for Dear Leader:


At what point can action be taken, other than judges tossing these cases out, to curb this nonsense. There has to be some repercussions for this. no?

Qwikshot 11-22-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3315278)
At what point can action be taken, other than judges tossing these cases out, to curb this nonsense. There has to be some repercussions for this. no?


He’s never faced consequences for his actions; I’m hoping after inauguration they throw the book at him (and his family). I hope the lawyers he uses are just as incompetent.

Lathum 11-22-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwikshot (Post 3315279)
He’s never faced consequences for his actions; I’m hoping after inauguration they throw the book at him (and his family). I hope the lawyers he uses are just as incompetent.


I mean the lawyers who are obviously wasting everyones time and money.

Toddzilla 11-22-2020 01:37 PM

and not a single elected Republican in Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Georgia is going to hesitate to get in front of a bible to be sworn in asap. Because, of course, their votes were legit.

Ksyrup 11-22-2020 01:50 PM


GrantDawg 11-22-2020 04:23 PM

Meanwhile, there are growing number of Republican congressional candidats that lost their elections by 40+ points now claiming their elections were stolen as well.

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Ben E Lou 11-22-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3315269)
Kemp is a loyal Trumpist. Because he refuses to break the law for Dear Leader:




You. Can't. Make. This. Stuff. Up.



Ksyrup 11-22-2020 05:13 PM

What an embarrassing disaster.

Lathum 11-22-2020 05:17 PM

They have trained almost half the country to not believe their own eyes and ears.

Ksyrup 11-22-2020 05:33 PM

HA!


NobodyHere 11-22-2020 06:04 PM

I don't get it

BishopMVP 11-22-2020 06:14 PM

I guess I'm always weirdly optimistic, but I hope Trump keeps fighting this. We might never get that 38% back, but the real fight is for enough of that 10% that (a) Trump can't win in 2024, & that the GOP power guard realizes just how dangerous it is to align behind an uncontrollable loose cannon. The more that Trump attacks people like Brian Kemp the better, and the more that his "team" can't stop at saying "election machines were hacked, number dump, technical talk" & feels compelled to add "fronted by a 3rd world dictator who died a decade ago" let's go!

I still very much agree Biden has played this close to perfectly, (and unlike some I never had doubt actual judges & the US Military would be professional), but I do hope as this starts going the liberal part of the media starts incessantly asking every elected Republican to go on the record if this election was stolen or not (and if it's in doubt why they're taking the oath of office) because the more you get on the record giving less than unconditional support for Trump, the more people he'll personally target.

That goes tenfold for people covering the Georgia races... There absolutely are people who will boycott the runoff if they think the GoP duo aren't being loyal enough to Trump, it can't be the Democratic party pointing it out, just get those two on the record agreeing to be as far "left-wing" as Brian Kemp & the GA SecState. Shucks, ask them if they will boycott the primary if they don't also hold a re-vote on Trump vs Biden, some people will get mad when they say no!

QuikSand 11-22-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3315316)
I don't get it


LMGTFY

JPhillips 11-22-2020 06:47 PM

It seems at least 50/50 that the state board in MI will refuse to certify the election tomorrow and then it will go to the MI Supreme Court.

I still think a coup can't happen, but they keep trying.

GrantDawg 11-22-2020 06:54 PM

JPhillips, I do think it will end up in court either way, but the SOS dies also have the option to fire whoever voted against verification. Don't know she will go that route, but she can.

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NobodyHere 11-22-2020 08:21 PM

Trump campaign cuts Sidney Powell from president’s legal team - POLITICO

JPhillips 11-22-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3315321)
JPhillips, I do think it will end up in court either way, but the SOS dies also have the option to fire whoever voted against verification. Don't know she will go that route, but she can.

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Would that invalidate the vote, though?

AlexB 11-23-2020 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3315333)


Is she the first person too crazy even for Trump?

GrantDawg 11-23-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3315334)
Would that invalidate the vote, though?

First of all, it is "does" not "dies". Sorry for the many typos. And in answer your question, no. It would most likely be legally challenged either way, but she does have the authority to remove someone for not doing their legally mandated job.

Lathum 11-23-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3315361)
Is she the first person too crazy even for Trump?


My guess is McConnell got in his ear on that one, he really can't afford to have Georgia voters disenfranchised.

Ksyrup 11-23-2020 08:44 AM

You mean, he can't afford to have Georgia voters duped into disenfranchising themselves?

Butter 11-23-2020 12:34 PM

Sounds like one of the GOP members of the Michigan canvassing board wants to take public comments before a vote. I read somewhere nearly 800 people have signed up to comment.

Good luck with that

BYU 14 11-23-2020 01:28 PM

Yeah, that will devolve into a shit show, nothing will change, just validate it so we can drive one more nail into this nightmare election

larrymcg421 11-23-2020 01:35 PM

It sounds like he wants to hear a lot of people to say he has no choice but to certify, so that he has a defense for fellow Republicans. That's what he's getting.

BYU 14 11-23-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3315400)
It sounds like he wants to hear a lot of people to say he has no choice but to certify, so that he has a defense for fellow Republicans. That's what he's getting.


Could also be that he may want to hear a lot saying he should not, so he has an excuse to hold it up. It will be interesting to see the demographic that turns out for this.

whomario 11-23-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3315404)
Could also be that he may want to hear a lot saying he should not, so he has an excuse to hold it up. It will be interesting to see the demographic that turns out for this.


Considering people with an axe to grind in general are way more likely to come forward than those fine with a result ...

larrymcg421 11-23-2020 02:49 PM

You guys realize the meeting is streaming live, right? I didn't make that comment randomly. I've been watching the whole thing.

I've heard more people say it should be certified than say it shouldn't. The one Republican who has already said no has been making moronic comments throughout, supporting people who come by with wild conspiracies and trolling some people who ask for certification. The only time I've heard the other Republican speak up is when he's asked if there is any legal basis to not certify.

Jas_lov 11-23-2020 02:53 PM

They have it on CSPAN. I've just heard some state reps thus far who want it certified and one former rep complaining about Dominion.

Ben E Lou 11-23-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3315410)
You guys realize the meeting is streaming live, right? I didn't make that comment randomly. I've been watching the whole thing.

I've heard more people say it should be certified than say it shouldn't. The one Republican who has already said no has been making moronic comments throughout, supporting people who come by with wild conspiracies and trolling some people who ask for certification. The only time I've heard the other Republican speak up is when he's asked if there is any legal basis to not certify.

I'm watching it now. What I've heard so far doesn't make it sound like they're letting many random nitwits through. Three have read well thought-out written statements, and the fourth was an election poll worker saying that things were solid. All four requested certification and expressed faith that the counting was done properly.

Ben E Lou 11-23-2020 03:08 PM

Dola:

It's also quite a reflection on how COVID has changed our culture: I'm now on voter #5. All appear to have been upper 50s/lower 60s and older. None seem to have any problem handling a Zoom meeting.

Ben E Lou 11-23-2020 03:11 PM

Dang. Upper 50s/lower 60s white female who lives in Detroit. Short version: "All of my fellow white people who moved out of here to the suburbs, if you wanted to influence the votes of Detroit, you shouldn't have moved away."

Ben E Lou 11-23-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3315404)
It will be interesting to see the demographic that turns out for this.

Larry, is the demographic I'm seeing so far reflective of the rest of the meeting? Mostly white and older?

Ben E Lou 11-23-2020 03:21 PM

Heh. MAGA ain't happy with this meeting...


larrymcg421 11-23-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3315417)
Larry, is the demographic I'm seeing so far reflective of the rest of the meeting? Mostly white and older?


Pretty much, yes. Many of them are county clerks for various counties throughout the state, so that probably is the typical demo for that job. I've missed a few people speaking, but the craziest so far was the guy spouting Dominion nonsense.


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