I sense a theme...


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...65655347019776

A very definite one, as well as a stark difference

Biden’s Memorial Day message and Trump’s Memorial Day message. pic.twitter.com/nHbu0FT4dm

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 29, 2023

Lets not forget Trump's campaign spokesperson also used Mayor Pete's service to mock DeSantis on memorial day as well.

Yet his supporters were pointing to the fact that Trump was losing the military mail in vote as proof of fraud.

Jack Smith is reported to have Trump on tape from 2021 talking about one of the secret documents he kept. It was the US invasion plan for Iran.

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I sort of wonder if DeSantis strategy is to jump in the race and hope that multiple indictments turn people away from Trump. If the reports are true, they have him dead to rights on leaking classified information. It sounds like the election interference might go through in Georgia too.

Still don't think it matters but maybe they think 3 separate criminal trials will be enough for some to move to DeSantis and avoid the headache.

Ans then pardons him after he's elected.

The tape of him discussing the classified document on Iran is the first time I've felt jail is a legit possibility here. If it's true he discussed having it, that he knew it was classified, that he wasn't supposed to have it, and wanted to share it with others he's fucked and should be.

This man's ability to undermine his own defense of everything is something to behold.


EDIT: Also, for a guy as paranoid as Trump is; he rips up documents, flushes them down the toilet, ect. He puts himself in position to be recorded incriminating himself quite a bit.

Just him having this, let alone on tape discussing it, shouldn't only be disqualifying for office, it should be life in prison.

The problem is Garland works so damn slow by the time this actually comes to trial he will be the nominee and the DOJ won't pursue.

Jack Smith has the case. Every indication he is almost finished with that part of the investigation. Garland could technically stop him from going for an indictment I guess, but I don't think he would.

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I think that's by design. Delay an indictment and then come out and say "well we didn't want to do it near an election".

Even if they indict tomorrow it won't see a courtroom for a year. Then they will delay because he will be the nominee.

Speaker Kevin McCarthy is reportedly giving January 6 security footage to conspiracy theorist Julie Kelly | Media Matters for America

All the best people working together again.

Yeah so maybe that CNN Town Hall with Trump wasn't such a good idea after all:


Just a moment...

Licht really thought that CNN could base a business model on the loyalty of people who think Chick Fil A is too liberal.

Shortly before there was a piece in the Atlantic about Licht in general with the Town Hall featuring prominently: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-trump/674255/

This may be the prelude to a complete removal, but he's still in charge of programming. And, similar to the Bud Light fiasco, I think it's totally preposterous for the higher ups to wash their hands of the decisions being made below them. They bought into Licht's vision for how to turn around or remake CNN. So to make this out to be some isolated thing happening below them is pretty ridiculous.

I get that you hold the people responsible who failed to execute the strategy (similar to firing coaches and GMs), but the higher ups are responsible for approving off on a strategy that was virtually unexecutable.

And speaking of CNN, my boss took his car in for service to a guy he's been buying cars and getting service from for 25 years. When he came to pick up his car, the guy came out and said, "What the hell are you listening to CNN for?" He tried to back away from the conversation as best he could, but then the guy noticed the car his son (who was dropping him off) was driving - a Suburu - and said something about that, too. Kid said he liked the car and the guy said something to effect of, "Yeah, they have very loyal customers. Like liberals and gays." And then when my boss got into his car, the radio was programmed to Fox News.

What my boss was most incredulous at was the idea that people think it's OK to just make these kinds of statements, particularly in a business context. We both agreed that we'd never come out and just launch into some anti-Trump commentary meeting with clients, or even talking with neighbors, if we didn't know their leaning. We just chalked it up to being in Kentucky and everyone assuming the people around them are as red as they are.

That would be a never return to their business scenario.

This is my every day. I'm old white man, so everyone assumes I'm facist friendly. People are way more openly racist than they were pre-2016

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It’s the movie Us in real life


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The enduring legacy of the Trump Era.

Time to find a new mechanic

that ending sucked

I've been wondering if someone wqanted him to do it because it would further expose what an idiot trump is and cause him to say stuipid self exposing things

One of the bigger changes I've noticed since 2008 is how it used to be liberals who forced red/blue politics into ever interaction ("If you aren't outraged, then you aren't paying attention!") and now it is conservatives.

Well, Kevin has to do something after he made a big deal about giving all the footage to Tucker Carlson, who got shitcanned instead.

if someone doesn't have an opinion on trump already (one way or the other), they've been in a coma the last decade.

He did air some of the footage before that though. Maybe there would have been a part 2 (and 3 and 4) but it's not like he didn't get to air what he claimed was oh so damning.

They are still threatening to remove McCarty as speaker, and I say let them. Nothing useful is coming out the House for the next two years anyway. Let the GOP infighting shut down the House. I'm sure that the American people will see that and say "let's vote for more of that."

News I missed:

Trial date set for Steve Bannon's fundraising fraud case | CNN Politics

All Trump's pardon for Bannon did was delay his trial since NY closed a double jeopardy loophole with preemptive pardons. Since his trial never started NY can still charge him at the state level. His new trial for the build the wall scam is scheduled for next May. Two of the others have been sentenced to 3 and 4 years respectively and Timothy Shea is awaiting sentencing.

Watching MAGA constantly eat their own is kind of fascinating. The fact that MTG has been trying to be slightly more moderate and is cozying up to McCarthy hasn't gone unnoticed in MAGA land and Bannon and others are calling for her to be primaried.

So it looks like indictments on the classified documents case are close: lawyers for Trump met with DOJ lawyers to "plead their case" before indictments come down-often a sign that that its about to happen. Here is Trump's response afterwards:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...62038281322496

I wonder if he would have been charged without Margo Martin's laptop. That recording is so damning and apparently the document he was describing wasn't turned over.

Nvm

I think trump proves that the parable of the boy and the wolf is utter bullshit.

McCarthy just put a rules vote up for their "Save the gas stoves" bill (ie. utter performative bs) and it didn't pass. The fringe is sinking votes in protest of the debt ceiling deal.

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I'll let the Bard (Shakespeare, not a D&D Bard) sum up the Fringe.

it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

So anyone gonna mention how the rollback of Title 42 didn't result in an illegal immigration boom.

Almost like all the right has is fear.

I listen to a podcast with a couple of experts on immigration talking about it. Basically, there was a surge right before the repeal because people didn't trust the rule change that Biden implemented along with the repeal. They said large groups are sitting right across the border, but they are waiting to see how the rule is going to pan out.


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Oh, wut?

MORE: It is understood that Mr Trump's last White House chief of staff, @MarkMeadows, has agreed to plead guilty to several lesser federal crimes in exchange for his testimony under a limited grant of immunity. https://t.co/7ZMm60nhxf

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) June 7, 2023

I hope all of this is true, but I also hope it happens next week... because my Trumper parents are on their way to my house tomorrow and will be leaving on Monday. If he freaking gets indicted Friday, I'm not sure how we're tiptoeing around that!

According to the article, the charge is going to be mishandling of national defense documents. They are going to skirt the whole classified issue.

I'm sure this one will finally be the one he can't slip out of.

I have no doubt at all they can get a conviction. The problem is both timing and public opinion. Can they get him to trial before next years election, and will this actually prevent him from winning the election. I absolutely can see him getting a conviction, stay free on appeal through November of next year, and winning the election.

its possible that if he can get a conviction of something that keeps him from running AND allows him to claim he's been disallowed from running. He could leverage the shit out of that martyrism and raise a boat load of money to keep the grift going because thats the big win.

If he gets a conviction for something that disqualifies him it better come with jail time.

Is there a conviction that can keep him from running? I'm pretty sure that you can win the presidency from jail. There is no criminal disqualification in the Constitution.

From what I read Trump's attorneys were hoping the classified part of this would sway them from bringing charges because it's a really difficult thing to have a trial for. Anything submitted into evidence would need to be declassified and since some of the documents Trump had were extremely classified there was little chance of that happening.

So avoiding the classified part of this but still hitting him charges should make the case easier.

All the better in my opinion. So many conservatives were leaning into the murkiness of the classification rules that sidestepping them entirely kneecaps what their objections were built around.

Between this and the UFO "disclosures", I expect this week to begin with highs and massive letdowns.

There is. It is a conviction by the senate after impeachment. Which they had teed up in front of them after Trump try to have them all killed on January 6. But they decided he was awesome and should be president again, so they did not convict him.

Dola:

It is actually good, IMO, that normal convictions do not make you ineligible for office. Otherwise, you’d have some random DA in rural Oklahoma having gotten Obama convicted of a felony jaywalking during his first term or something to keep him from being reelected.

trump has been notified that he is the target of a criminal investigation.

It is close.

Per Trump, he has been indicted and is to appear in court in Miami on Tuesday. News reports say 7 charges.

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My effing parents haven't even been here for 3 hours and the indictment hits. FML as the kids say.

Freaking out on Truth Social.

I have an agreement with my in-laws. Zero talk about politics.

We really need a new thread, this one is pre-2020 election

Then again, we could resurrect it in 2024, since that's an election year. Of course, there's at least a chance he won't be on the ballot that year.

A Trump is a Criminal thread:2023?

Trump Crazy Criminality Consequences (TrumpCCC) 2023 Edition.

Trump's a criminal is an ageless thread.

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If he decides to run, who do we want driving the Ford Bronco? Junior? Eric? Elon Musk?

Lol, he has apparently already sent out a fundraising email based on this

It's going to be a Golf Cart. The ratings would be YUGE. The biggest ever.

The dictionary is subtweeting him:

https://twitter.com/merriamwebster/s...Znv52YZTh9J2dg

Apparently Trump is real shook because his folks told em "Don't worry, you won't be indicted, and if you are, we can tie it up in jurisidictional stuff forever"

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Yeah I think they thought they had a good chance of having the whole thing thrown out if the charges were in D.C. and not Florida,

Trump has posted a video saying he's innocent, and everything the Democrats did during his presidency and after is a hoax and we must make America Great again.

with a bad toupee

How can you stand being on there?

I love that old that Peaches and Herb hit



Re-indicted and it feels so gooooood...

I'm not. I just see people reposting his rants on Twitter.

So did you have a nice breakfast?

Actually, it's gone much better than I expected. Nothing so far, although I'm pretty sure I watched my dad read the breaking news on his phone during dinner in real time. But maybe they were already expecting it, so there was no outburst.

And it probably also helped that I went through an extended Seinfeld episode last night trying to explain streaming services to my parents. At least an hour showing them how all the services work, how you get to them, etc. They don't understand the difference between a TV channel and a stand-alone service (so REELS channel and the REELSNow stand-alone app, for instance). Had no idea how they would find channels without numbers.

The culmination of this was that my mom kept complaining that they were old and don't know any of this and how did I learn all of this, and I said, "I am a 52 year old man with a full-time job and I made time to spend time researching how all this works and what packages are best for me. You're retired with nothing to do. Grab a pad of paper, make a list of every show/channel you can't do without, and start looking at services, packages and prices!"

It ended with me talking about YTTV, then Hulu, then some other service, and after each one, my dad vetoed it... due to who owned it. Seriously.

I think they are going to downgrade from DirecTV satellite to a smaller DTV Stream package. Probably the best option since there's some familiarity there. It was fun. But also maybe a distraction from Trump.

That's how my night went. I missed all of the "good" parts of the FSU/OU game and only watched them lose.

He looked scared and like he'd been crying.

So they play the "old and feeble-minded" card, but can't believe they'd be duped by lying politicians and media companies. Got it!

My aunt wanted to get my parents Netflix a while back. I tried to explain the concept of streaming and it didn’t go well. Eventually I just told her to get them Apple TV and I’ll set it up. Dead serious she tells me they already have a tv.

I think I read that he recorded the video before the indictment came. Just to be ready for it.

Would they be able to work the Apple TV remote?

I got my folks a TCL Roku TV and loaded up Netflix, Disney+ and Britbox and also wrote down instructions about how to get to Live TV (e.g. their basic cable), and then stripped all the other channels off of the Roku homepage. It's worked really well.

Good Lord. That tape of him showing off the Iran documents is worst than first given.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/polit...et-information

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FFS. Game over. Aileen Cannon has been assigned as the judge. This will be worse than the Rittenhouse judge.

Yes. After lots of coaching they learned how to use mine

According to what I've read, from a used to be prosecutor in this Circuit said its very likely she will be asked to recuse herself if not at the arraingment, for the trial herself. The 11th Circuit has already chastised her once for what she did in the earlier stunt for Trump, and would not hesitate to do so again I'm sure:


https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/...66126881619969

SMH.

They can ask her but can they force her? Genuinely asking. And if she is forced to recuse holy shit the conspiracy theories.

They may feel the case is so strong that they want her to be the judge to put to rest any "RIGGED!" arguments. If she oversteps her bounds, the 11th circuit has shown it will take her to task, so she may be limited in how much help she could be. This might be the preferable set of circumstances to take him down, if the case is really as strong as it appears.

I don't feel all that worried about the judge. It sounds like the prosecutor is legitimately apolitical and exceptionally thorough with his cases. It sounds as if he was very selective and focused on what charges could be clearly proven. I guess my thought is that it sounds like the case that was built will not be overly complex and pretty concise.

I am completely skeptical of there being any accountability. Only takes 1 MAGA idiot on the jury let alone a patrician judge.

Only the best people

Trump's two attorneys John Rowley and Jim Trusty have resigned, per Trump, and Todd Blanche will be taking over: https://t.co/WgNQ9Tcctv

— Jacqueline Alemany (@JaxAlemany) June 9, 2023

I wonder if Trump paid them at all.

One thing a pro-Trump presiding judge can do is slow-walk the case, grant every requested continuance, take a long time deciding motions, etc. So it might not affect the verdict, but if the defense plan is to delay, delay, delay, then she can help them along.

Just heard a second person is being indicted

They can appeal and go over her head to the Circuit if she tries to take control of things again, and as Joyce White said the reputation of the whole Circuit would be in question if she does not recuse herself.

wow well given what Trusty was saying on CNN last night about the case probably good for Trump. Who knows maybe Michael Cohen will come back and work for him now. :)

Obstruction conspiracy for the guy who moved the boxes after the subpoena. It is fucking amazing how people still get involved with him.

Please be Jim Jordan

They have said the Mark Meadows is going to be charged with lesser crimes-maybe here? Maybe the guy who helped moved the boxes if he didn't flip-a lawyer who lied?

It is Walt Nauta, Trump aide.