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sterlingice 12-10-2020 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 3317660)
Funny that he said no one has even come close to losing while winning those states. He, himself, came real close in 2016.

I don’t like this multiverse where we all have to go along with his delusions in order to stroke his ego.


This is a crap timeline, made even crappier by a lot of the people in it.

SI

Kodos 12-10-2020 09:26 PM

Yep. If people acted in concert for the greater good, we’d be in a much better place.

Atocep 12-10-2020 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3317648)
This means literally nothing, yet it's still hilarious.



I'm fairly certain no one has come close to losing while winning all the states Biden won.

GrantDawg 12-11-2020 05:43 AM

Georgia speaker is moving to amend the state constitution to make the Secretary of State a position appointed by the legislature. Republicans fear nothing more than democracy.

Ksyrup 12-11-2020 07:22 AM

The other part of the "what happens next" question!


JPhillips 12-11-2020 01:06 PM

Now up to 126 GOP Reps that support the Texas lawsuit.

larrymcg421 12-11-2020 01:44 PM

2022 primaries are sure going to be interesting.

Thomkal 12-11-2020 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3317730)
Now up to 126 GOP Reps that support the Texas lawsuit.


And two new states have joined as well-New Nevada and New California

albionmoonlight 12-11-2020 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3317704)
The other part of the "what happens next" question!



I wish they'd hold off leaking stuff like this until he is out of office. Don't make him feel cornered. Hell, leak a complete lie that "prosecutors doubt they will bring charges."

Ghost Econ 12-11-2020 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3317740)
And two new states have joined as well-New Nevada and New California


I prefer Nude Nevada and Nude California.

JPhillips 12-11-2020 03:07 PM

Having been to nude beaches, the people you want to be nude rarely are and the people you'd like to stay clothed generally don't.

Izulde 12-11-2020 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3317746)
Having been to nude beaches, the people you want to be nude rarely are and the people you'd like to stay clothed generally don't.


This.

JPhillips 12-11-2020 03:13 PM

I wish the Dems had the stones to press this.


Thomkal 12-11-2020 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3317744)
I prefer Nude Nevada and Nude California.


I may have to move to one of those if this stupid stab in the dark succeeds. :)

Lathum 12-11-2020 04:37 PM

For those more in the know, is there a point when this gets concerning?

JPhillips 12-11-2020 04:49 PM

I think we're well past the point of this being concerning. We have a majority of the GOP declaring that SCOTUS should overturn the election because they don't like the outcome and feel the GOP-appointed justices owe them. AT this point it's hard to know whether this is an ending or the beginning of a more anti-democratic future.

Lathum 12-11-2020 05:06 PM

yeah. Long term I agree it is already concerning. I guess I should have been more specific. In the short term are there any actual worries they could overturn the election, or delay the electoral college?

I realize the concept of an armed civil war is so alien, but is we were watching this happen in another country we would think there is no way their democracy would survive.

JPhillips 12-11-2020 05:10 PM

There's a lot of dry tinder on the ground and I worry a lot about what happens if there's a spark. A shooter taking out an elector next week could push things into a violent phase pretty quickly.

Ben E Lou 12-11-2020 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3317762)
yeah. Long term I agree it is already concerning. I guess I should have been more specific. In the short term are there any actual worries they could overturn the election, or delay the electoral college?.

Nah


Lathum 12-11-2020 05:37 PM


Lathum 12-11-2020 05:42 PM

Hope it was 9-0

Ben E Lou 12-11-2020 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3317768)
Hope it was 9-0

Alito and Thomas said the Court was required to hear the case, but that they would not grant any injunction, so it sounds like 7-2 on whether to bother hearing the case, 9-0 if they had heard the case.

Ghost Econ 12-11-2020 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3317769)
Alito and Thomas said the Court was required to hear the case, but that they would not grant any injunction, so it sounds like 7-2 on whether to bother hearing the case, 9-0 if they had heard the case.


I believe those two about as much as they actually believe in God and that they aren't Him.

kingfc22 12-11-2020 06:05 PM

So much losing. Hahaha

Ben E Lou 12-11-2020 06:22 PM

Parler is in full meltdown mode.

Wow.

Ben E Lou 12-11-2020 06:28 PM

Just a few samples from the #SCOTUS hash tag.

To all you limp wristed #SCOTUS FUCK YOU!! I HOPE THE GIFTS YOU RECIEVED FROM THE LEFT ARE MAKING YOU HAPPY!! I AM SO PISSED RIGHT NOW!!


#scotus rules FOR an illegal national election - may their souls burn in hell




Pray for America. We’re fucked. Lady Liberty sure is disappointed tonight. 🥺😤 #stopthesteal #godblesstexas #texaslawsuit #supremecourt #scotus

I'm so pissed that our constitution is no better than the paper we wipe out ass with it's useless if even #SCOTUS won't abide by it


Fire every single #scotus !!! Every single one !!!!


So I guess we are back to talking about secession now, am I right? #SCOTUS #stopthesteal #Trump2020Landslide









SCOTUS just gave Georgia permission to cheat in the January Senate election. SCOTUS just legalized voter fraud.

#SCOTUS are cowards. Of course you know...this means war.

Ben E Lou 12-11-2020 06:30 PM

Oh..and just lovely...

There’s about to be a lot more Kyle Rittenhouse’ in the streets. Stay loaded my friends. Cometh ye commie f@cks.

Lathum 12-11-2020 06:33 PM

I mean, what part of the constitution did they violate?

JPhillips 12-11-2020 06:42 PM

TX GOP basically calling for secession.

Quote:

“Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.”

ISiddiqui 12-11-2020 06:44 PM

They can call it... a... Confederacy of states?

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sterlingice 12-11-2020 06:55 PM

Dammit. I want to live in the West Germany side of things not the East Germany side

SI

CrimsonFox 12-11-2020 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3317772)
Parler is in full meltdown mode.

Wow.


iis it lowering your iq as you read?

AlexB 12-11-2020 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3317782)
Dammit. I want to live in the West Germany side of things not the East Germany side

SI


If it makes you feel any better, in 70 years time your equivalent of Berlin will be the coolest city in the world. Honestly, wow, what a place!

PilotMan 12-11-2020 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3317783)
iis it lowering your iq as you read?


Parlertakes on twitter gives me enough highlights without needing to soil my equipment.

Lathum 12-11-2020 07:04 PM

Parlertakes is the best

PilotMan 12-11-2020 07:06 PM


lungs 12-11-2020 07:17 PM

Which is more popular next step on Parler right now, “succession” or “Marshall” law?

RainMaker 12-11-2020 07:22 PM

Lot of violent internet fantasies on those sites. Guessong this will lead to some more right wing terrorist attacks.

Thomkal 12-11-2020 07:55 PM

Is Twitter done for everyone?

Edward64 12-11-2020 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3317769)
Alito and Thomas said the Court was required to hear the case, but that they would not grant any injunction, so it sounds like 7-2 on whether to bother hearing the case, 9-0 if they had heard the case.


Good to know our system of checks and balances still work ... albeit with holes to be patched.

albionmoonlight 12-11-2020 08:51 PM

Well, he got a vaccine approved before the election. It’ll be interesting to see if it’s enough to sway enough electors when they meet on Monday.

sterlingice 12-11-2020 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3317784)
If it makes you feel any better, in 70 years time your equivalent of Berlin will be the coolest city in the world. Honestly, wow, what a place!


So... Austin?

SI

Ksyrup 12-11-2020 10:41 PM

State of the universe right now:


Edward64 12-12-2020 05:59 AM

Good thing California's Calexit plan/attempt at secession has failed (so far). Otherwise TX would have a template to go by.

CrimsonFox 12-12-2020 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3317785)
Parlertakes on twitter gives me enough highlights without needing to soil my equipment.


There are plenty of foods that are good at soiling your equipment

Ben E Lou 12-12-2020 07:33 AM

In case anyone was wondering if being smacked down by the highest court in the land would quiet him as he realizes it is over...

No.

BYU 14 12-12-2020 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3317848)
In case anyone was wondering if being smacked down by the highest court in the land would quiet him as he realizes it is over...

No.


I am sure he will create his own super. amazing, even higher, best court ever full of judges with courage and patriotism and finally get his vindication. Chief Justice Lindsey Graham anyone?

Ben E Lou 12-12-2020 08:12 AM

So, back to the original poll...how DOES this end? Continued tantrums, maybe another stupid legal maneuver or twenty, and a competing rally on 1/20?

Surely he won't have to be physically removed, if for no other reason than how weak that would make him look.

albionmoonlight 12-12-2020 08:17 AM

A lot of GOP Politicians said back in November that they would accept Biden as President-Elect "When the Electoral College voted" or "After the Supreme Court ruled on any cases."

I am sure that seemed so far away when they said it. Surely, the problem will have resolved itself by then.

Sort of like getting a two-week extension on a term paper. "I'll have lots of time to write the paper now!"

Well, the paper's due on Monday, guys. How's that going for you?

Edward64 12-12-2020 08:17 AM

Looks like #3 to me. But the "give up" should be "give up but with continued bitching".

Lathum 12-12-2020 08:21 AM

Twitter is turning off commenting and liking on his posts that mention the election. He’s got to be out of his mind.

albionmoonlight 12-12-2020 08:25 AM

So, the two big dates left are the EC voting on Monday and Congress accepting the results on Jan. 6th.

There are a lot of MAGA House members who would be fine having a vote on accepting the results. They would lose, of course. But they would be happy to fight.

But, apparently, you need an objection from a House member AND a Senator to even get a vote. And I don't think that McConnell wants his members having to go on record with a vote. They don't get the benefit of gerrymandered districts when they run for reelection.

So my guess is that McConnell is happy for all of the norm-busting that Trump has done, but he's ready for it to end.

And I've always felt that McConnell is pulling Trump's strings more than people realize (A very smart puppetmaster with a very stupid puppet).

So I think that McConnell will backchannel to the WH that it is time for Trump to acknowledge that Biden will be President, while continuing to deny his legitimacy. And he'll make Trump think that it is all his idea.

albionmoonlight 12-12-2020 08:26 AM

dola--so number 3 above, with more whining--like Edward said.

Ben E Lou 12-12-2020 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3317859)
Twitter is turning off commenting and liking on his posts that mention the election. He’s got to be out of his mind.

Huh? I’m not seeing this...

GrantDawg 12-12-2020 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3317866)
Huh? I’m not seeing this...

They turned it back on. This morning you couldn't like or comment on his tweets.

cartman 12-12-2020 09:38 AM

So apparently the leader of the Proud Boys was invited to a meeting at the White House this morning

albionmoonlight 12-12-2020 09:46 AM

On the one hand, how disgusting.

On the other hand, it's not McConnel or Graham or Bill Barr. When the Proud Boys are the only people left returning your calls, you really need to take the hint.

albionmoonlight 12-12-2020 10:05 AM


Qwikshot 12-12-2020 10:08 AM

This is a stupid deranged unhinged man who knows the moment he's out of office he's in danger to criminal and financial investigations.

He's going to fight using all resources to control the government (he had 125 stupid assholes join him in his Supreme Court gambit, they should all be removed from office).

His followers are going to be more deranged and dangerous as he escalates further.

The run-offs have to go blue or this will get much worse.

Ksyrup 12-12-2020 11:37 AM

They do what now?


Comey 12-12-2020 02:13 PM

....him?

bhlloy 12-12-2020 02:23 PM

I think they called the guy from the John Lennon conspiracy theory by mistake

Ksyrup 12-12-2020 04:12 PM

He looks like a Red Skelton impersonator.

Ksyrup 12-12-2020 04:44 PM

And another...


Edward64 12-12-2020 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 3317896)
I think they called the guy from the John Lennon conspiracy theory by mistake


It's the glasses. But closer to Lennon than JFK Jr.

Ksyrup 12-12-2020 05:20 PM

Ben Stein can keep his money.


NobodyHere 12-12-2020 08:38 PM

You read it! You can't unread it!

But honestly I thought Ben Stein was dead.

NobodyHere 12-12-2020 08:48 PM

Fox News Conspired to Overthrow Trump, MyPillow CEO Tells 'Stop the Steal' March

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

PilotMan 12-12-2020 09:05 PM

If we're all sleeping comfortably in our beds we can't fight trump! That's the nefarious plan!

JPhillips 12-12-2020 09:34 PM

In case there was any question about their racist foundations, the Proud Boys are going around D.C. tearing down and burning BLM banners, some of them from churches.

albionmoonlight 12-12-2020 09:39 PM

No one questioned that that the Proud Boys are racist. I don't even think they deny it.

NobodyHere 12-12-2020 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3317923)
In case there was any question about their racist foundations, the Proud Boys are going around D.C. tearing down and burning BLM banners, some of them from churches.


You can be anti-BLM w/o being racist.

Comey 12-12-2020 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3317927)
You can be anti-BLM w/o being racist.


Yes, but you can't be a Proud Boy without being racist.

RainMaker 12-12-2020 11:46 PM

Rushing to defend an openly racist neo-fascist group.

RainMaker 12-13-2020 12:18 AM

Don't see those armored tanks and tear gas for these right wing riots tonight. Strange how that works.

albionmoonlight 12-13-2020 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3317933)
Don't see those armored tanks and tear gas for these right wing riots tonight. Strange how that works.


It wasn't the white time to use teargas and tanks.

GrantDawg 12-13-2020 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3317941)
It wasn't the white time to use teargas and tanks.



lAw AnD oRdeR!!!

NobodyHere 12-13-2020 10:39 AM

I wonder how many people caught covid in these protests/riots and counter-protests.

albionmoonlight 12-13-2020 10:42 AM

An understated, I think, part of all this is how Biden is just not reacting to anything.

Trump needs chaos. He needs the fight to keep going. He gains power when you fight back. It's the classic "when you mud wrestle a pig, you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it." Biden isn't getting down into the dirt with him.

GrantDawg 12-13-2020 10:43 AM

I imagine some, Nobody. Being outside helps cut it down, and the masked groups help as well. Probably less than a large group in a small area with no mask, but more than none.

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albionmoonlight 12-13-2020 12:55 PM

Ben needs to add a new poll option:


GrantDawg 12-13-2020 01:08 PM

That's an opinion of a non-trumpian lawyer, btw. Not someone fron his team, or even sources from his people. Not saying it is wrong, just that it is a guess.

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Lathum 12-13-2020 01:10 PM

If Trump tried that I believe he would be breaking the law.

I get Biden not going after Trump for the things Trump did in office, although I think he should, but if Trump attempts to govern once Biden takes over that absolutely would have to be stomped out.

albionmoonlight 12-13-2020 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3317965)
That's an opinion of a non-trumpian lawyer, btw. Not someone fron his team, or even sources from his people. Not saying it is wrong, just that it is a guess.

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Oh yeah, that isn't the campaign. That's just a guess.

I think that Trump won't do that. He will be President-In-Exile-and-God-Emperor-Trump. But I don't think he'll have a fake oath of office administered.

He has to walk up to the line where he looks strong but not stupid to his supporters.

Shit posting on Twitter about how much better he'd be as president and pointing out that he should be president is one thing. Actually having, like, fake presidential seals made and stuff is another.

albionmoonlight 12-13-2020 01:57 PM


albionmoonlight 12-13-2020 01:58 PM

"giant jurists" floored me.

GrantDawg 12-13-2020 02:06 PM

Trump says no judge has ruled on evidence. He is wrong. Judge Ludwig, who Trump appointed just months ago, said the President had standing in his court. He then ruled against him pretty harshly based on merit.

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Galaril 12-13-2020 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3317962)
Ben needs to add a new poll option:



I guess I should have went and bet on this in Vegas back on8/22 when I called it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3297059)
Funny I was just thinking about this question this morning myself. I think it is very likely even with the vote by mail suppression BS he losers at least by 2-3% popular vote and losers a few key states such as Florida, NC, Pennsylvania,Michigan and Minnesota that give Biden the EC victory.
I think "he fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed." and he stages as a patriotic act to his supporters. I think he then keeps traveling the country claiming he won and is the legitimate president to his base doing interviews and trying to stay in the media focus. He will set up shop in some place like Mel Largo and declare he is the rightful president as a modern day Jefferson Davis. I could see right wing domestic terrorist carrying out bombings and the like in his name too. The question and am not sure what happens is what will the federal government do in this sceanrio.


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Ben E Lou 12-13-2020 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3317941)
It wasn't the white time to use teargas and tanks.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3317942)
lAw AnD oRdeR!!!

The days between tomorrow's EC vote and 1/20 could be quite problematic with Trump directing any federal response to violence/riots and pressuring red-state politicians to take it easy on the "patriots."

PilotMan 12-13-2020 09:21 PM

trump has given some insights into his plan going forward. He will call Biden the illegitimate President and everything that he says will go from there. I'm not sure he'll go so far as to take an oath of office separate, but he's dangerously close to criminal behavior. I think he's too stupid to keep from crossing the line after Jan 20th as well. He is already fueling the flames for people who have little reservation about killing in the name of trump. It's coming. I hope when that happens, and he's not the president, that he's arrested and charged.

Lathum 12-14-2020 06:46 AM

Parler and Qanon folks losing their shit over the google outage

Ksyrup 12-14-2020 08:22 AM

I just saw a CBS poll that 48% of Republicans say Trump should not concede and should do whatever it takes to remain in office. The only thing that will keep us from an outbreak of numerous mass casualty incidents is the hope that, like those of us sitting at our computer while Trump does things we never thought he'd do instead of taking to the streets, the vast majority of these MAGA pu$$ies do nothing but cry to each other on social media after Biden takes over, and eventually things go back to some sort of normal.

There will still be threats and a few violent incidents, but I'm hoping the complacency of Americans and not wanting to upend pretty decent personal situations will keep most of the possible action from actually happening.

Ksyrup 12-14-2020 09:27 AM

This kind of crap cannot just continue to be allowed.


Ben E Lou 12-14-2020 10:09 AM

Huh. I missed this.

Twitter Confirms Trump Could Be Banned After Inauguration Day For Repeated Violations

Atocep 12-14-2020 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3318064)
This kind of crap cannot just continue to be allowed.




The Michigan GOP has already removed him from all committee assignments.

Brian Swartz 12-14-2020 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum
Parler and Qanon folks losing their shit over the google outage


They do that over the arrival of a day ending in the letter y though, so meh.

sterlingice 12-14-2020 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3318070)


I think that would go a ways with mitigating some of the stupid. Sure, he'll hold rallies and move to Parler or whatever - but I'm (naively?) hopeful it won't be covered the same way that every network jumps on every single Tweet he makes.

SI

Ben E Lou 12-14-2020 11:17 AM

Next up: pressure on GOP members of Congress to accept votes from "Alternate Electors" in the swing states.

On Fox News, Stephen Miller Says ‘An Alternate Set Of Electors’ Will Certify Trump As Winner

Ben E Lou 12-14-2020 11:32 AM

Heh. Guess who made the announcement in Georgia?


Ben E Lou 12-14-2020 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3318078)
Next up: pressure on GOP members of Congress to accept votes from "Alternate Electors" in the swing states.

On Fox News, Stephen Miller Says ‘An Alternate Set Of Electors’ Will Certify Trump As Winner

Part of me wanted to think that Miller was just lying.


He wasn't.



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