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Not so sure about this. "The election was stolen" might be the 2024 platform. |
This thread took an interesting turn. Also on the tweet that KSyrup linked, how about ...
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Get the feeling that's not what they want said, but it's what's most likely to get me to vote for a Republican next time. |
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It worked for Andrew Jackson after all. |
PA just dropped under 60k gap for the first time
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If he takes 70% of the 250K, he gets 175K to 75K for Trump. Biden wins by 35-40K. |
Just saw someone call it the Pettysburg Address
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Yeah, I know, but I'm a pessimist. |
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One risk of doing that is getting tax departments involved in terms of where you live. Lying about residency in terms of taxes is a serious problem. I'm sure there are a small number of voter fraud cases, we find a few every cycle, but there's no evidence of even hundreds of cases, so certainly nothing like the millions GOPers sometimes claim. |
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He means to line up with Trump so they can get his 2024 blessing (after Trump wins here), right? |
The election was stolen didn't work out for the Dems in 2004, so good luck with that
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Yes. Don Jr tweet-whined about none of the 2024 hopefuls backing Trump and immediately Cotton and Haley tweeted something. |
53k lead in PA now.
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I feel like I am watching a horse race where there is a furlong to go and you just know the horse in the lead is dead meat
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Maybe we shouldn't know vote counts until after all of the votes have been counted or its pretty obvious who won a state.
What's wrong with that idea? |
USA Today interfering with democracy!
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Imagine how easy the projection would have been with a national popular vote! |
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Totally agree. I posted earlier here (I think) about the terminology we use - No one is "leading" or "behind," one of them won and one of them lost the minute voting was legally over. We just don't know who. There's no reason to concoct narratives based on where the vote is coming from or which ones are counted first. If Biden wins AZ, he didn't "hold onto the lead," he had the most votes by a slim margin. Trump's not losing his lead in PA and GA. This isn't a real-time race played out over hours/days, we just need a one-time dump of the result. |
The slow and steady release of votes was fine before Trump and it'll be fine after him.
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This. It’s just a matter of those reporting on it using different words to convey the message. Nobody is winning or losing. It’s a game where the turns are out of order. |
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Agreed she is smart looking hot. |
So... Alaska? WTF?
My quick math says he'd have to get like 73% of the mail-in vote. I mean, it doesn't seem likely, but like long-shot possible...? SI |
PA down to 50k difference now
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Less than 2,500 lead in GA
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Folks in Georgia deserve a comeback win. Might as well be this one.
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Yeah, hard to tell if this is just bluster or something real. |
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And by my count, there is ~215k votes left to report. |
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Are there still 70K or so outstanding in Philadelphia? I've lost track |
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Well done, sir. Well done. |
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Alaska has such a unique electorate, it’s probably hard to take anything we know and apply it there. A lot depends on how well Alaska GOPers listened to Trump on the mail ins, but there sure seem like a lot of 75-25 Dem to GOP mail in batches. |
That game is number three of the best games ever, right behind the 1995 World Series game 6 and the 1980 Sugar Bowl. We get so few great games.
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I'm thinking AZ is going Trump.
So hopefully Biden gets NV + GA tomorrow and PA whenever. |
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As of the time of this tweet (3 hours ago) they were saying about 60k votes left in Philly.
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So Trump must be upset about AZ because those are clearly illegal votes just like in PA, right?
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Clayton county, Georgia says they will have their final 5.7k ballots counted by midnight. That will be about 5.5k Biden votes. That will put him well over the top.
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Well done Alabama. Well. Done.
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Lisa Murkowski is up for re-election in 2022 and there have been some rumors that Sarah Palin may challenge her, so Gross may be building up a war chest to run again and improve his name recognition. Murkowski vs Palin seems like it could be one of those where Palin could win the GOP primary but be too extreme for the general election. Plus, Gross is a former Republican Independent. |
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Latest update on the PA dashboard, 208k left (so I was off a bit) and 72,677 in Philadelphia. |
I say higher. 90%+ Biden. The last I saw the Clayton regular count was like 83% Biden.
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Under 45k lead in PA now.
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Under 2k lead in GA.
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AZ Secretary of State says there are 200K left in Maricopa and 285K total in the state. So Trump needs to win the rest by about a 20% margin to get near Biden and higher to take a lead. He won the last batch in Maricopa by 14%.
Not sure where the other 85K are. |
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Thanks. Those AZ votes made me nervous but the experts seem to be saying Trump needed a bigger margin on that drop. |
Hey, Lindsay Graham trusts AZ vote counting but not PA for some reason...
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Imagine being the one to tell Trump that a 70% black county drove the final nail in his electoral coffin. #WelcomeToAtlantaWhereThePlayasPlay
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I'm absolutely shocked by how surprised my rural Ohio friends are at Trump losing. It really just never entered their thoughts that Trump could lose. Even after all of the polls and 2018, they were totally convinced Trump would win easily.
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My parents thought it would be a landslide. |
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That, plus the realization that he almost certainly lost Wisconsin and Georgia by spending the last three months pooh-poohing the mail in vote. |
My boss told me yesterday that he just can't understand why there is so many Biden supporters. I told him they can't understand how there could be any Trump supporters.
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Cruz and Graham still on their knees for Lord Trump on Hannity. What a pathetic life to live.
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I would love to see the look on his face. |
That election count scrape posted by Ghost Econ earlier is excellent.
In case you missed it: Election 2020 Results |
So when that GA county comes in and finishes the counting, do we get "Biden is the winner in Georgia", or will they hold off pending the recount / still in transit ballots?
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Hannity talking up having the PA legislature send Trump electors no matter what. Lindsay Graham agreed it should be on the table.
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Most Trumpers did. My buddy was telling me his BIL was saying it was going to be a landslide. I know him a little and he has some money and is a douche about it. Had my buddy call his BIL and say I want to bet 5K that Biden wins the popular vote. Guy backed down quick. They are all talk. |
I know some states were put in a bad position but the count is way too slow. Can really spot which states are dogshit.
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Reporter is saying around 4-5A Eastern is when the votes in PA should flip the lead.
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I don’t have much use for his smugness, but good counterpoint on how Trump’s ego is coloring hardcore GOPers cognitive dissonance.
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Once you're in that right-wing ecosystem, it's tough to come across reality. Lots of Trump folks thought this would be a landslide. Like people legit thought he could win NY or CA. |
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What a perversion of our democracy |
Not sure about anywhere else, but it's clear by now that Dems will flip GA-7
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Predicit odds for Biden in Pennsylvania are now the same as they are in Wisconsin.
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Not to be a Debbie Downer, but let's not get all self-congratulatory until the final votes are counted.
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Just popped in to Aubrey Huffs twitter feed. Now I need a shower.
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And even if you're confident, there's still big stakes in a margin that limits legal and elector drama. |
Take this with a MONSTER grain of salt, but...
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No. There are 9,000 military/overseas ballots who have until tomorrow to come in. Who knows how much does come in. |
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You should check out Aubrey Plaza's instead. |
Looks like the last big update from PA that dropped Trump's lead from 48k to 42k came from Monroe County, a county that was red but now finished blue (so a county close to 50/50). Biden finishes that county at 52%, +4 from Hilary 4 years ago.
ABC News shows that county at 95% reporting, but they had 14k remaining and the update was 14k. I assumed (I know, I know) that ABC knew how many votes were left to count, but it looks like they are using 95% as "we think they are done" and 99% as "we're pretty sure they are done". Should have used 95% as the ceiling, not 99 or 100%. Oh well. Biden might not win by 150k, but should still win.. |
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Depending what's in it...might also need a shower. |
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Whoa. That would be something. |
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I'd be willing to take that risk. |
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I gotta admit, I went there to see the responses SI |
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That'd be a nice soft landing for Trump to take that job. |
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Yep we saw Trump come back in Arizona today a little, which no one thought would happen. Do we really want to feel how we did in 2016 again |
I saw a projection that PA should flip overnight.
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"Will the election be called on the 6th or 7th" is now at -400.
Biden to win at -1100. Biden to win AZ at -280. Biden to win GA at -550 |
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I mean, hasn't that ship sailed whether he wins or not? Me adjusting my expectations isn't going to help at this point |
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I can't stay up that late! |
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I've come to understand that Trump's supporters genuinely love the guy. Many (not all) are racist and uneducated, but they give the guy unconditional love. I think very few of Biden's supporters actually love the guy. By and large, they're driven by a visceral hatred of all things Trump. You could replace Biden with a mannequin running against Trump, and their feelings about the mannequin probably wouldn't be much different than their feelings about Biden, but their extreme hatred for Trump would still be just as powerful. |
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Aubrey Plaza is my kind of crazy/hot, also. Would explain both of my ex-wives. |
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This is the quote I meant to respond to. I'll leave the other one just to confuse posterity. |
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TWO ex-wives? You might want to stop getting married for awhile. ;) |
This Election Day thread is so 2020. Tuesday started back at post 5583. There have been 1500 posts since and still no President.
And we haven't even gotten to the legal part of the proceedings... SI |
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I disagree with this. While they do hate Trump, they aren't driven to vote Biden because of their hatred for Trump. They are driven to vote Biden for the love of their country, respect for the office, fear of what another 4 years of trump would do to the future of our nation. Basically everything Trump isn't. to say they are voting Biden because they hate Trump dumbs it down immensely. |
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For what it's worth, when Fox called AZ for Biden, they asserted their belief that the remaining votes would be 55/45 for Trump. They envisioned a gap-closing like this (today was something like 57/43, there are more to come that demographically should be lower), and still made the call. AZ is going to be close, but the movement from today's counting isn't a complete shock. |
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Yeah Cohn is becoming more confident that Biden holds on, but it will be close. |
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Hey! I have two ex wives as well! Welcome to the club! :D Same here though on the crazy/hot. It's fun but I can only mentally handle it for so long. |
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I didn't mean to infer they were "voting" Biden because they hate Trump. |
Kind of interesting to think that there are probably zero GOP senators for the Dems to try to bribe to switch caucuses because both parties are so polarized.
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Fair Enough |
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Yup, still thinking Biden holds AZ by 20k or so. Wisconsin like numbers |
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At Biden and 51 GOP, Murkowski can be the Queen of all Americas if she desires to be. |
PA down to 36.5K lead for Trump
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36.5 left to go in PA
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