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Trump still trying THIS MORNING to pressure Kemp into overturning the election results. Crazy that we're at the point where we're dependent on people like Brian Kemp to save our democracy.
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His 2 month long temper tantrum over losing is going to propel him past Buchanan for worst President, if he wasn't there already.
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This is the effing truth right here.
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The lawyers hired by the state of Georgia in the Powell lawsuit are gettin' kinda spicy!
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I'm about ready to just walk out of this country and into the ocean. We've spent weeks railing against the GOP conspiracy theory nuts, and now the Dems are doing the same thing - about McConnell's victory, no less! Led by Christopher Titus!
The same half-baked BS about cheating and something seems suspicious and yada yada... just read the comments. Oy. We don't deserve what we have. We just plain suck.
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yeah. If anything they should take that "data" and use it as an example to the right that data inconsistencies happen on both sides.
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It is hard to express just how crazypants these lawsuits are as lawsuits (I know that the point of them is to raise money and not to win).
The best analogy I can think of: Team A beats Team B in a football game 35-14. Three weeks after the game, team B files a complaint with, like, the deputy director of the NFLPA, arguing that Team A fumbled twice in the third quarter, and turnovers are a big predictor of success. So it is impossible for Team A to have won. So the deputy director of the NFLPA needs to overturn the results of the game and declare Team B the winner. |
After the completion of the third counting of the votes in Georgia, Joe Biden wins again. Georgia results have been certified for the second time now.
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We will keep counting until Trump wins!
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From his Georgia rally. And people keep harping on Biden's mental faculties SMH
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Biden's one win away from sweeping the 7 game game series in Georgia. |
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Trump is just showing what a good Christian he is
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Cobb County, GA closing half of the early voting locations.
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FWIW, I like the idea of Trump going down to FL and not coming back to the WH after the holidays.
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I don't know where this needs to go since it's not directly Trump-related, but ... W. T. F.???
In THIS political climate, the official AZ GOP twitter account posts THIS?
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A bunch of GOP congress folks filed an amicus brief with SCOTUS that includes this gem:
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Well, we do have Andy Biggs, Debbie Lesko and Paul Gosar in office here, so yeah, not too hard to believe something like this, one of them probably ghost authored for whoever controls the account. Sadly, a lot of elected officials here in both parties are fairly moderate, but the outliers defein extreme in a new and scary way. |
This one is even more direct. Holy crap! Someone is going to get killed.
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So naturally, the next lawsuit seeking to overturn the election is from Texas, against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin. How much further past pathetic can we go?
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didn't a lawmaker from Az. get shot in the face a while back?
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We know where this goes one of two ways. 1) we (whatever side we happens) say that it is the fault of the other side and/or 2) we say no one explicitly said that someone should die so we cannot not be held responsible for how someone interpreted the message that we sent.
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Yes, and her husband just became senator. Also, Lathum since I think your in PA, the child killed in that shooting was Dallas Green's grand-daughter (Dallas Green coach of the Phillies in 1980). |
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Kelly Ward seems to be the grand marshal of the crazy parade. |
Imagine someone saying your father killed a sitting President and your wife should be committed to a mental institution.
Then imagine you doing everything in your power to support this person, even offering to argue for them to steal an election in front of the Supreme Court. You would think there is no low for Ted Cruz, but you would be wrong. At least now we know what blind ambition looks like. He has to feel going all in is his only shot for 2024. |
With the EC meeting six days from today, I fully expected this to be a week of crazy. So far it hasn't disappointed.
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Who somehow stays relevant despite getting trounced by McSally in the primary for what is now Sinema's seat. |
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I'm in Jersey but had no idea. |
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Except they may all have COVID now, so that probably at least slows them down a bit.
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Now that the SCOTUS has said they won't overrule the vote, now what they'll do. Apparently the big plan was to get to the SCOTUS, where they'll give it to Trump... Because they owe him or something? But they said nah.
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There's actually a Really Supreme Court they're going to appeal to.
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It's all about the Texas lawsuit now. |
In an article about the stimulus package even Mitch referred to Biden as President-elect.
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Right, the Texas lawsuit is even more ridiculous than any others. The SCOTUS would smack it down on the same basis.
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So....I've lost count of the prominent conservatives who have been revealed to be a part of the Deep State. It seems we have Brian Kemp, Bill Barr, Amy Coney Barrett, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, and Samuel Alito. Am I leaving any out?
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I feel like just the remarkable declining quality of GOP politicians kind of gets lost/obscured in the discussion about Trumpism. Graham and McConnell are horrible (and Romney is relatively inoffensive), but they at least seem intelligent & maintain some air that reminds me of the classic 'GOP statesman' that I grew up with, whereas seemingly every other modern GOP politician is some flavor of used car lot kook. In particular, the next wave of gen-x GOP leadership, Cotton/Jordan/Gaetz/Cruz/Rubio/etc comes off like an an erectile dysfunction support group at a suburban Florida strip mall.
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So they know at least 2 letters of the alphabet...
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Someone explain to why the fuck the Texan AG would have any insight into the other states that they don't ? Ia this just one of those very american things in the "everybody can sue everybody for anything" vein ?
Why in the world is that even any of his business in his role (decidedly not as a citizen) how other states handle a matter that (as i understand it) is a state matter ? Also, as a layperson: There is no way this isn't riddled with holes in it, no ? Like, say, states Trump won using similar or at least some of the same adjustments ? |
They are desperate to get to the Supreme Court because they believe the conservative court owes Trump a win, and one of the matters that the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction over (meaning, you don't have to go to another court before the SC) is suits between states. But this has no chance in hell.
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This thread is must read. It breaks down the affidavit on the Texas case. To say it is bad is an understatement.
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The other interesting thing about this suit by this particular TX AG is that he was recently referred for criminal investigation by a number of his own aides (a couple of which were fired shortly after) for abuse of office and bribery. He's likely attempting to curry favor with Trump and others for possible assistance with those matters. And he's already facing securities fraud charges. Real winner. Law and order and all that...
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The suit is frivolous. It’s a game to the MAGA. They are enjoying this. It’s all a show. And Trump promised them a Supreme Court scene near the end of the show. And if there’s one thing the man knows, it’s television. Give the people what they want. |
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Aww, the site where you can speak your truths..... |
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It's amazing how many states are going with let's steal the election.. when the SCOTUS declines to hear it, there is going to be violence...
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States rights! Until you do something I don't agree with.
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So can we get rid of the ridiculous electoral college now since these states are clearly fine making up their own rules.
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All of those states also changed their voting laws to adapt for the pandemic. So their results should probably be tossed as well.
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Too many political threads so not sure where this one should go:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/polit...ion/index.html After pausing in the months before the election, federal authorities are now actively investigating the business dealings of Hunter Biden, a person with knowledge of the probe said. His father, President-elect Joe Biden, is not implicated. Now that the election is over, the investigation is entering a new phase. Federal prosecutors in Delaware, working with the IRS Criminal Investigation agency and the FBI, are taking overt steps such as issuing subpoenas and seeking interviews, the person with knowledge said. |
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Considering that Trump is going to self pardon and pardon his kids; Joe should just pardon Hunter day one and we move on. |
And Hilary to really drive them mad.
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Oh yeah to both ideas. That would really be sweet.
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I think it depends on the laws of that state. I know there was a controversy when former GA Attorney General (Thurbert Baker) was appealing a case to the Supreme Court. The Governor at the time didn't want to appeal, but since he was an elected separately, it was ruled that he got to make the final decision. It looks like only 3 AG's are appointed (Hawaii, New Hampshire, Wyoming), so I imagine in those states, the governor would make the final call.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/polit...ede/index.html
Hard to tell if GOP leaders are so naïve that they think that Trump will suddenly decide to admit he lost on December 14th or if they think that we are so naïve that we believe them when they say that. Actually, it isn't really hard. These are smart people. They know what they are doing. They just expect us to be too stupid to notice. Any elected official who hasn't denounced Trump's coup attempt is in on the coup attempt. And the occasional anonymous quote to a reporter that they'd rather not be doing a coup does not change that. |
dola: It isn't the coup they object to. It is the fact that the coup isn't succeeding. They are afraid that a failed coup might look bad to Georgia runoff voters.
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Yeah, they're just hedging their bets. The coup is a long shot, but if they can get it, it's worth trying to get for them.
It's more scary/frustrating/sad that no one is standing up and trying to do something about it. The Dems are basically pretending it's not happening and the GOP are all willing accomplices. And the populace is either 100% behind it or just trying to laugh it off because it's being done by a buffoon. Anyone not seeing this as a giant flashing red light for the next couple of decades is not paying enough attention. SI |
The Deep State is so deep and insidious it's impossible to detect when it's at work.
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It's like pornography - they know it when they see it!
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Dude....78%???
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 Actually, that whole exchange is pretty relevant Kent Brockman: Mr. Simpson, how do you respond to the charge that petty vandalism such as graffiti is down 80% while heavy sack beatings are up a shocking 900%? Homer: Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that. Kent Brockman: I see. What do you say to the accusation that your group has been causing more crimes than it's been preventing? Homer: Oh, Kent, I'd be lying if I said my men weren't committing crimes. Kent Brockman: Touche. SI |
I am sure he has some poll that says 78% of respondents believe the election is rigged. Most likely it is an webpage poll on something like Newsmax.
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The hashtag has gone from #StopTheSteal to #Overturn
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I've been reading some of these briefs for the Texas SCOTUS filing, and some of these are just dumb (like the one posted below). This whole filing again reinforces my idea that none of this stuff was ever filed in real expectation to succeed. It is only hoping something catches SCOTUS attention enough to stop the process so the electoral college voting deadline has past. It is super long shot, but if they throw enough crap against the wall, they hope something will stick.
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Let me move from Georgia first, but I am definitely down with this.
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Ugh, I don't want to have to cross an international border to visit my folks who live less than 10 miles away.
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We may have a Civil War, but the one thing nobody will be willing to fight for is Toledo.
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Michigan and Ohio nearly went to war over it in the 1830s. |
Yes, I know. That was kinda the joke, since Toledo is the armpit of America and the idea of fighting FOR it is funny as hell.
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The problem you have are the blue cities in red states. Atlanta and Austin sure as hell don't want to be part of Jesusland. We may have to do an airlift to keep them supplied over enemy lines.
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I will fight for Cedar Point.
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I'd say Gary, Indiana is the armpit of America. And it smells like it.
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Hey, leave my hometown alone. Not that you don't have a point, but it still is home. ;) |
So it seems my house rep signed onto the lawsuit with SCOTUS. It makes sense, since his grandparents name is on half the buildings in town and he's never earned anything in his life. He calls himself a small business owner, his parents literally own the lease on his business.
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Ut-oh. The federal judge (Trump appointment) is suggesting he does have jurisdiction to hear the Wisconsin case. This would be the first federal judge to say they gave jurisdiction.
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To follow up, the judge did seem to think that the questions raised should have been handled before the election. It doesn't sound like he was to favorable to the Trump case, but it will still the first federal judge that has said they have jurisdiction in any of these cases.
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106 GOP Reps have signed on to the amicus brief in the Texas case. The GOP is pretty clearly anti-democracy now.
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So proud of my AG for opting out, even though it was an EXTREMELY unpopular decision among many in this very very red state.
Edit: State AG is such a strange office - they have a different role in every state, depending on tradition, the person holding the office, the relationship with the legislature, the political ambition involved, etc. At the end of the day, though, they're just the lawyer for the state. They shouldn't be policy-driven. Very few live up to that ideal. Edit: but, our nutjob Lt. Governor is trying to join on her own. This dispute will not be good for AG Office funding next year, but, it is the right thing to do. |
I would love to see what the reaction would be if New York filed a similar lawsuit against West Virginia and Kentucky (and/or insert your favorite red state). I can just imagine Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz and Rand Paul spinning in circles on how one is sensible and patriotic while the other is an abuse and mockery of the legal system.
How many days away are we from Trump retweeting someone declaring that the 15th Amendment should be repealed and the 19th should be amended to remove urban and suburban women, followed by 70% of GOP officials saying every option should be explored? |
Remember this Texas lawsuit when Republicans pull out the "states rights" or need for "strict constructionist" on the court.
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This means literally nothing, yet it's still hilarious.
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