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GrantDawg 06-02-2021 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3337261)
I would not want to be the FoxNews intern having to sift through these emails looking for dirt.

Why? The kids are likely to win "MAGA" awards. It is not that hard to take statements out of context and make them sound like a conspiracy. I have seen quotes already saying that Fauci said the virus "look man made." They are just going to feed the MAGA crowd for weeks.

BYU 14 06-02-2021 04:17 PM

I've said it before, but it is tragically sad that so many Americans are so mentally weak that they can be lead by a lease through these hoops of lunacy.

kingfc22 06-02-2021 04:33 PM

Also a great demonstration on just how powerful propaganda can be

PilotMan 06-02-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3337274)
Also a great demonstration on just how powerful propaganda can be


100%

Propaganda sounded crazy when trump said it 'as a joke' then it became 'well maybe' then it became 'the gods honest truth' in 3 simple steps.

Just like trump will stay in the WH, then he'll be reinstated Jan20, then March, now August.

Just like the vaccine will kill everyone in 30 days, then 3 years.

The goalposts just get moved to wherever is convenient.

The people who buy into this are the ones with shallow social (in the person to person social version) safety nets, the ones with struggles in their lives, who are unstable, who don't cast very wide nets in the world of information. They are the ones who love 'magical thinking' and can make great leaps of logic in order to fit the world to their own view of it. Take the 'audit' in Arizona. It's about the least scientific thing there is. Instead of looking for oddities with an open mind, and trying to find any divergence from what was expected, like a scientist does, it's the complete opposite. They are taking existing theories, and trying to shoehorn data and evidence into those existing theories in an attempt to prove them. There's no way to disprove them. Should they not find what they are looking for they will simply say 'they did a really good job of hiding it, but it's there'.

Lathum 06-02-2021 08:17 PM

24 minutes into the Q documentary. These people are so mentally ill...

Lathum 06-03-2021 08:16 AM

Just heard on the radio, full disclosure CNN, that Trump got the August return date from Mike Lindell. The AI in the sim is broken....

Swaggs 06-03-2021 09:43 AM

There is just so much about Trump that feels like the little kid whose parents never let him learn how to lose.

In 2016, it was not accepting that he lost the popular vote or, if he did, he wouldn't have if he had not been campaigning to just win the electoral vote. And from there, it developed into a "landslide," "historical" victory.

In 2020, it is that he won the most votes ever by a sitting president (despite losing by 7-million in the popular vote) and that he won all the states that were close. The reason he didn't win is that he was cheated in the areas that they won in the closest states, even though we can't quite prove it and the rest of his party did well pretty much across the board.

Someone needs to tell the poor guy that sometimes you don't win.

Ryche 06-03-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 3337316)
There is just so much about Trump that feels like the little kid whose parents never let him learn how to lose.

In 2016, it was not accepting that he lost the popular vote or, if he did, he wouldn't have if he had not been campaigning to just win the electoral vote. And from there, it developed into a "landslide," "historical" victory.

In 2020, it is that he won the most votes ever by a sitting president (despite losing by 7-million in the popular vote) and that he won all the states that were close. The reason he didn't win is that he was cheated in the areas that they won in the closest states, even though we can't quite prove it and the rest of his party did well pretty much across the board.

Someone needs to tell the poor guy that sometimes you don't win.


And even in most of the states he won his margin went down by a similar margin to the states that flipped.

JPhillips 06-03-2021 11:08 AM

Trump's superpower is getting people to willingly incinerate all of their dignity.


NobodyHere 06-03-2021 11:26 AM

For all of Trumps flaws, I still remember Trump at the 2016 Republican primary debate saying that George W did not keep us safe on 9/11. He even got booed by the crowd for it. It was probably one of the few times I agreed with him.

Lathum 06-04-2021 11:10 AM

Looks like Facebook is paving the way for Trump to return



Lathum 06-04-2021 01:02 PM

Or not.

AlexB 06-04-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3337330)
For all of Trumps flaws, I still remember Trump at the 2016 Republican primary debate saying that George W did not keep us safe on 9/11. He even got booed by the crowd for it. It was probably one of the few times I agreed with him.


That’s a hell of an endorsement - I agreed with what he said once, 5 years ago

molson 06-04-2021 01:39 PM

I agreed with several of his firing decisions on Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice.

BYU 14 06-04-2021 02:34 PM

As if there was any doubt about Russia's intentions to undermine democracy.

Putin tries to amplify GOP efforts to whitewash the deadly Capitol attack, saying the insurrectionists weren't 'just a crowd of robbers and rioters'

albionmoonlight 06-04-2021 03:02 PM

Barnes & Thornburg Partner Leaves Firm After Representing My Pillow CEO in Suit | The American Lawyer

Life comes at you fast.

albionmoonlight 06-04-2021 03:13 PM

dola:

For context, from what I could tell from legal twitter, that firm was at risk of losing a LOT of clients due to that filing. Firing the partner was necessary (maybe not sufficient, but necessary) to save the firm.

Lathum 06-04-2021 03:38 PM

He should be fired for showing a heinous lack of judgment taking him on in the first place.

AlexB 06-04-2021 05:26 PM

Saw a post the other day saying that how in the hell can Trump just stroll back into the White House in August when he can’t get even get back onto Facebook :D

molson 06-05-2021 04:25 PM

I know there's been some confusion about how Trump will take office again and the mechanics of that, fortunately, conservative radio talk show host and former presidential candidate Dr. Laurie Roth, Ph.D, has cleared it all up:


miami_fan 06-05-2021 05:14 PM

Yes, it is wrong and unfair. Regardless, I looked it up and now I am judging the PhD program at Oregon State.

JPhillips 06-05-2021 05:24 PM

It seems like the plan after, something something August, is to make Trump the Speaker in 2023 and then impeach Biden and Harris.

AlexB 06-05-2021 05:30 PM

Seems legit to me. I think all PhDs would call it a which hunt, and need people to comfirm things for them. And the punctuation is impeccable.

thesloppy 06-05-2021 05:49 PM

I think my favorite part of that is the casual "the military gave him 2 more months as President."

Lathum 06-05-2021 06:12 PM

These talking heads don't believe what they say, but they know their gullible listeners do and they make a lucrative living off them so they keep up the charade.

BYU 14 06-05-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3337455)
These talking heads don't believe what they say, but they know their gullible listeners do and they make a lucrative living off them so they keep up the charade.


It is prestige bias at it's finest. Put a PHD after your name and watch the gullible masses buy any Bullshit hook, line and sinker.

Lathum 06-05-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3337456)
It is prestige bias at it's finest. Put a PHD after your name and watch the gullible masses buy any Bullshit hook, line and sinker.


While the rally against the elites and college type smart mouths.

It is amazing how they don't realize they are being played

Thomkal 06-05-2021 07:52 PM

Man they give out P.H.D's yo anyone these days don't they? If this Laurie Roth really does have one, they should take it away for all that nonsense

I. J. Reilly 06-05-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3337450)
Yes, it is wrong and unfair. Regardless, I looked it up and now I am judging the PhD program at Oregon State.


Geez, and I thought nothing could be more embarrassing than our football program.

Atocep 06-05-2021 08:30 PM

I'm a high up and trusted military source (I work in the IT department of an Army hospital). I can assure you Trump is not president. I'm happy I could clear that up for everyone.

Thomkal 06-05-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3337462)
I'm a high up and trusted military source (I work in the IT department of an Army hospital). I can assure you Trump is not president. I'm happy I could clear that up for everyone.


Thank God :)

JPhillips 06-07-2021 08:04 PM

The Trump Ukraine quid pro quo was all true and there's audio.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/polit...den/index.html

albionmoonlight 06-07-2021 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3337549)
The Trump Ukraine quid pro quo was all true and there's audio.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/polit...den/index.html


Of all the Trump misconduct, I bet this is still the one he does not get. His handlers have convinced him that people think it was bad, and he knows to repeat the no quid-pro-quo line.

But they had something he wanted. He had the ability to give them something they wanted. Why it was wrong for him to say "I'll give you this if you give me that" seems very hard for him to understand considering the way he's wired.

Ksyrup 06-08-2021 08:01 AM

Dr. Roth left out one part of the message - the part where her source offered her 4 pillows for the price of 3.

albionmoonlight 06-09-2021 07:58 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...mposter-fraud/

Who watches the Watchmen? But for cheap fraudsters.

Lathum 06-09-2021 11:26 AM

This is.....something.....


NobodyHere 06-09-2021 11:28 AM

It worked on Futurama

Lathum 06-09-2021 11:36 AM

Maybe they can use a Jewish space laser?

molson 06-09-2021 11:48 AM

What I take from that if that he's acknowledging climate change.

whomario 06-09-2021 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3337601)
What I take from that if that he's acknowledging climate change.


That's never been the real denial for many people though, right ? This has long been denying it being a) human induced/worsened/accelerated and thus b) can't be influenced by humans doing sth about it by changing things about their"Footprint".
It has long been popular to reference big, unchangeable natural reasons for climate change as the primary reason, thus suggesting (or just plainly saying) that best that can be done is cope. Which then also serves as the comfortable way out for many folks by supporting technological 'solutions' (either to cope or offset the causes, i.e. geoengineering. Both of course emminently important, but not as an exclusive strategy).
Or put blame on individuals for fallout like with the Wildfires. That's the sort of underlying framework this is serving here: frame it as a) impossible to change and b) thus time and energy would be better served focussing entirely on the fallout while just chugging along.

molson 06-09-2021 02:04 PM

Trump says global warming is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese, and the last I saw, there is still a significant number of Republicans who believe it's not happening at all.

My quick Google search tells me that a Gallup survey found that 59% overall believed global warming was happening in 2016, and and a Yale study found that 69% did in 2019. And it's probably fair to assume that most of those that don't out of those numbers are Republican.

whomario 06-09-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3337605)
Trump says global warming is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese, and the last I saw, there is still a significant number of Republicans who believe it's not happening at all.

My quick Google search tells me that a Gallup survey found that 59% overall believed global warming was happening in 2016, and and a Yale study found that 69% did in 2019. And it's probably fair to assume that most of those that don't out of those numbers are Republican.


Wasn't meant to say it's not sth a lot of folks believe, but politicians especially seem prone to go for the "yeah ok, but ..." option or the "it's unclear" option (might well be less popular than over here though) and not just on this topic. Might change of course, now that being crazy is a real selling point and there's less need to 'compromise'

Colour me shocked it is that high though. I mean, large part of the US population believes some crazy shit, often way more tangible stuff. Like thinking Dinosaurs aren't extinct and/or havin co-existed with humans.
Though i have to say these sorts of studies often have problematic methodology, i.e. these yes/no questions kinda skew towards people with some skepticism/doubts to say "no" on principle. Though i'd like to think both Yale and Gallup have that in-between are covered in some way ?

Overall it unfortunately comes down to the 2 party system again as a sizable portion of voters feels obligated to vote Rep despite disagreeing on their stance on certain issues. Because ultimately "green" policies do have a decent majority of all americans behind them, and even a sizeable portion of republicans in some instances.

How Americans see climate change and the environment in 7 charts | Pew Research Center

RainMaker 06-09-2021 03:24 PM

I think their views have changed a lot. At first they said it wasn't happening. As evidence kept mounting, they had to move to "we aren't causing it". Pretty sure we'll reach a point where the argument is that it is good for us.

Ghost Econ 06-09-2021 03:56 PM

Look, if we just change the orbit of the earth or the moon, we can finally get the dumb, woke millennials to get off our lawn.

cuervo72 06-09-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3337601)
What I take from that if that he's acknowledging climate change.


The angle I saw was that he was acknowledging it, but is of the mind that it is due to sunspots, orbits, etc. so unless if we can change those, we can't do anything about climate change.

RainMaker 06-09-2021 06:23 PM

Shocking I tell you that they are getting special treatment from the feds.

Revealed: majority of people charged in Capitol attack aren’t in jail | US Capitol breach | The Guardian

NobodyHere 06-13-2021 01:30 PM

MyPillow Guy’s MAGA Rally Rouses ‘Stop the Steal’ Truthers With Corn Dogs and Hate for Fox News

I'm still amazed that this could be a news headline in the USA.

BishopMVP 06-14-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3337597)
This is.....something.....


I'm only disappointed when I figured out the BLM in question is the Bureau of Land Management. Tying in Black Lives Matter to climate change would've been peak crazy GOP. :lol:

Atocep 06-14-2021 02:02 PM

So the DOJ, under Barr, was subpoenaing communications records of democratic members of congress and some journalists without their knowledge? Am I understanding this correctly?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN2DQ1I3

kingfc22 06-14-2021 04:12 PM

Yes, but "Socialism bad", "colored people bad", etc is more worrisome than a wannabe Dictator


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