Yep. And apparently Gwinnett and Cobb have gone heavily for Biden this time (even Cobb!!) before all the mail in are counted.

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You, me, and like 4 guys writing for The Gospel Coalition website may be the only people in America who hold this opinion.

Biden with a 10 point lead in NE CD2 with over 80% counted

Also Senate looks lost to Rs so even if Biden is to win he won’t get anything done including court packing or even get Breyer to retire and put a young liberal on the SC. God Democrat’s are such a pointless party. Shit even with the country going less white I have little optimism since we have Mexican Americans at the Rio Grande voting for Trump among other groups that are voting against their own interests. I am also similar to people here in the north of $300K income and being white and straight if I was to vote for my own selfish interests Trump would be the way to go.

Nebraska is weird, but I guess it's better than it all being red.

This was my fear in a worst-case scenario.

People are misinterpreting this tweet. I meant: no matter who wins. The fact that Trump is competitive will convince Republicans the Trumpism sells. People on the Democratic left will probably argue that more energetic leftism could have drawn more turnout. https://t.co/MQ1Bmnk4h0

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 4, 2020

After that debate in Georgia, I thought for sure Ossoff would win. Amazing he is getting his ass kicked.

He comes off as a guy who will have a checkered past in the future if he were elected.

Dems need to do something about the pervasive disinformation that Dems=Socialism and Communism. It's that simple. They've got to get better at combating social media narratives, straight up. Not more radical.

I remember my favorite show in the 90s, MTVs Real World. This is the world we live in now.

A bunch of drunk white people with a couple gays and minorities thrown for shits and grins. Welcome to America 2020

Minnesota called for Biden by Fox News

Cant wait to hear how Bernie would have gotten even more crushed than Biden just like y'all said in 2016 begging us to vote for Hillary. We got behind your bullshit candidate both times. And in 2024 y'all will be asking and pleading for us to unite and back the candidate and talking about how socialism can't win...

Fuck off.

Dems are horrible at framing shit. "Defund the police" will never win. But neither will "play the middle" and vote the moderate. Y'all Doubled down on Trump hates M4A and lost bigly on that messaging. Get strategic.

Fire Tom Perez. Fire all the Dem establishment. Blow it up. AOC for Prez 2024. Fuckl if you say it cant work because clearly your best fucking lame ass centrist Biden can't either even with the entire party behind him.

I saw snippets of this debate, Graham, and McConnell and all of the Republicans performed miserably. And it didn't matter. Perdue sat there and took the soundbite moment from Ossoff and then sat back and watched the votes pour in.

Just wait for the older generations to die out. The US is still decades behind in terms of socioeconomic politics. Once millennials become the bulk of voters, it's over for the republicans.

MI at 74% Trump. Wiscy 86% Trump, PA 79% Trump

Strangely, Pedro, Puck and Judd would have probably all been voting for Trump this year.

Im thinking 2024 will be a battle fo young, charismatic people. I cannot see another election of 70 year olds.

I am pretty excited about 2024.

I suppose one way to combat the Dem = socialism narrative is to just lean into it and put a socialist up. From the standpoint of name calling by the GOP and how voters view the candidate, Bernie and Biden are basically interchangeable.

Although I do wonder if Biden's age and the whole "proxy for the left wing" thing was a way more legit concern than Dems realized.

what's up with georgia

Tarcone, when are you going to bed? I would consider that a victory tonight.

Don Jr v Chelsea?

It looks like more and more that:
1. mail in ballots = more Democrats
2. Poll voting = more republicans

So, Biden could end up winning some of these states more convincingly after the mail in votes get counted.

pretty much this.

High-level view of what Biden needs to do to win:

If Biden loses both NE-02/GA: Can afford to lose one of WI/MI but PA is must-win
If Biden wins NE-02: Can afford to lose one of WI/MI/PA
If Biden wins NE-02/GA: Just has to win one of WI/MI/PA#ElectionNight #Election2020

— Ryan Matsumoto (@ryanmatsumoto1) November 4, 2020

Whoa, apparently there are 2 million mail in votes yet to counted in Pennsylvania. And it seems a lot from Philly and suburbs and Pittsburgh

https://twitter.com/PhilsBaseball08/...600594432?s=19

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LOL. Im here for the long haul. Had a few drinks and am enjoying myself. Throwing shit against the fan and seeing what sticks.

Look, I will admit it, I voted Biden in a state that is really red. I voted for the D Governor, as well.

I get it. But this is a country that is white centric and afraid of reality.

Im sorry I am irritating you. But the reality is what it is. Sad but true, we have a CRAZY motherfucker as our president again.

But I will say, I am having fun with this thread. This is a legit great thread about politics. We should have our own show on TV explaining WTF is going on.

Yeah 2024 Tom Cotton against name the far left leaning dem socialist 38 something congressperson. Yeah that will be competitive in this country

Where is the throw up emoji?

I was thinking Ossoff if he won or Harris and Hawley

If you ever thought Biden had dementia, that speech confirms it.

You're good tarcone. Maybe a little doomy, but you're good with me

Pretty much exactly what I said an hour ago.

AP calls Minnesota for Biden.

Have to think that bodes well for Wisconsin.

I’d like to see the margin in Wisconsin under 100,000 votes before the Milwaukee dump comes in.

Exactly the way the GOP that controls the state wanted it. They couldn't even begin processing the votes before election day (something just about every other state allows even if counting doesn't begin until election day). PA is going to take a few days.

Ossoff isn't done yet. His numbers are only slightly behind Biden's and Perdue would need 50% to avoid a runoff.

Wiscys House races went 5-2 GOP. Not sure what that means for the presidential election, but that cannot be good.

Bernie had his chance and can't even beat the Dem "centrists"

It's trending that way, now 113,000 difference. I believe the Milwaukee votes are supposed to come in by 6am.

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Better put the coffee on

Do you know how they are counting the vote? Like in person vs absentee?

SI

poles and stolen elections.

No surprises. The districts are gerrymandered and the only semi-competitive district this time around looks to be won by the Dem.

I like that

I do have some good news to report.

It's looking like weed about to be legal in New Jersey!

You know the longer this goes on, the greater chance Trump does stupid shot.

The world as we know it is only going to get crazier.

Biden had to win in a blowout or shit is hitting the fan.

It was rigged. Both times. Definitely in 2016 and likely in 2020 when Buttigieg and Klobuchar conspired to endorse Biden after Clyrburn's South Carolina deal which was his first, desperate and honestly, pathetic win. They both dropped out and it was over from there. People WANT a MOVEMENT not a CANDIDATE. Trump is a MOVEMENT. BIDEN is a CANDIDATE. AOC is a MOVEMENT. Bernie is a MOVEMENT.

I know you think you're fucking wise and smart but you're 0-2 the past 8 years and even if you're right next time I'm not buying in.

Good luck trying to get that messaging across. Ill vote Trump 2024 over you fucking telling me to vote your stupid ass moderate establishment DNC candidate.

Maybe this is the reckoning we all need. If we survive 4 more years of this.

Cant wait til Van Jones pronounces that Trump is "presidential" in his acceptance speech either.

Jesus Christ. Who has a good number for a mail order bride?

Lucky. It took 2 years for Medical in Missouri to be voted in until the first dispensary opened. And most doctors will not prescribe it.

I think we're still here. I definitely get tarcone's doom and gloom, I think its a bit overboard but I completely get it. For me I think I had bought into the idea that NC was a pretty easy win for Biden and others would be close that it turned out aren't so much. But overall we've ended the night where a lot of people predicted, and we're probably in tossup land. We'll see.

I think we're all inherently aware of that tarcone, yes.

Now that I believe. It's not about the country to you, it's about yelling at people and being badass on the internet.

Not sure the exact order they count.

Biden did stretch Hillary’s margin of victory in Dane County (Madison).

It’s going to be close. Milwaukee turnout wasn’t as high as they hoped.

You're wrong again and butthurt and your tail is tucked between your legs... Im the badass though.

How is this. Country over party: I came around and committed to your side for 8 years. It didn't work out. But you're welcome. Will you come around to my side in 2024? Commit right now. No Dem centrist. Get behind the Dem populist candidate.

Man, I saw a Trump win coming. Same thing as 2016. No one thought the rural voters would come out and the suburbs would be slightly ahead for dems and the cities would be the difference.

But here comes the rural voters again.

Biden wins the majority. Trump wins the electoral Again, GOP wins the right places.

I am going to bed feeling better than 2016, but still amazed that there are this many people out there who really think he's worthy? It is feeling a lot like 30s Germany in here before the election. If trump wins again it might inch further down that path.

The electoral advantage inherent for Republicans is staggering when all votes are equal. Theoretically.

I'd vote for any Dem candidate against Trump. You said you'd vote for Trump if you don't get your way. That's all you need to know to know the difference between us. You'd vote Trump, I wouldn't.

(I'd actually bet money you tantrum voted for Trump last time and maybe this time. Or that you didn't bother to vote at all.)

I would go with a populist Dem. Damn, I gave money to Yang this year. Guy has some good ideas.

Too bad we live in a country with 2 parties that neuters any populist candidate that would win.

I mean, as someone who doesn't care for Bernie, I would absolutely get behind him and/or any other progressive. Hell, I look forward to voting for AOC at some point, because her brand of progressivism doesn't completely discount pragmatism, which is a big issue for me in a Presidential candidate (also why I supported Warren).

So like Gayle King is pretty useless on CBS.

Van Jones started talking and I couldn't wait to turn the channel from CNN, and I'm a lib.

Is that racist?

When will Michigan some in?

Go to bed loser. See you in 4 years. Tell me if you're still flying planes for a commercial airlines or if you're lucky to get a job for Koryo Airlines... oops American Airlines in 2023.

Sleep sweet.

You'd be wrong. Dem down ticket the last 8 years.

Cant wait for you Boomers—the worst, most selfish generation in American history—to die off.

But yea, lets just keep counting on "tHoSe InDePENdeNrt VOteRs are WheERE ITs At" and "socialism" and "healthcare for all" cant win. Funny how we were worried that Amy Comey Barrett would decide this election and now we are wishing she would. Y'all idiots are like hanging onto FOX NEWS polls hoping they are correct at this moment... lol.

And maybe you're right. But tell me a platform that doesn't have a last name of Clinton/Obama/Biden/Gore and LMK who not to vote for and lets get behind the same candidate in 2024.

Trump only down 22 in the biggest Dem county in Wiscy compared to losing it by 37 in 2016

Get bent and sober up. Tell us again how crying about your loser candidate was the solution. I'm guessing you were part of the problem 4 years ago that got us in this. Great strategy there. You keep running with that.

Jeez, in this world of technology, it really takes this long to count votes.

Jfc dude. You don't know fuckall about anything.

6 states are holding this up. Get over yourselves and get shit done.

Look at us, we are more important than you. We are going to hold off until it is determined or our state matters the most.

Stupid.

It's almost the exact states that were predicted to be the difference makers. Almost like it was anticipated. Look, there are some worse numbers than anticipated, but by and large, there haven't been any shocking results.

Seems fishy to me that CNN waited until well after midnight to call FL and TX for Trump. Those were gone a couple hours before midnight.

100 million dollars spent on a senate race. Yeah, our political system rocks.

CNN has been conservative on all of their calls, even ones that look like they'll go to Biden (AZ, VA).

It's a travesty that that kind of money was spent all over the races.

..' the fuck is wrong with you?

Get bent and get drunk. I would if I was you. Because your next job is probably coming in 2-4 years Pilot Boy. Literally if it wasn't for a bailout and a stimulus bill that ran out you probably wouldn't even be weighing in on today if we'd done this correctly.

Cant wait to see you whining here like you usually do about your job and how hard the airline industry is for pilots and begging for federal money to bail your ass out for the 3rd time in 10 years so you have a job.

But socialism bad. Unless it helps you out. Fuck off.

You'd vote for Trump. You have no say. Despite your irregular capitalization. Which is super edgy.

I guarantee neither AOC or Bernie would vote for Trump or insult other allies about their lives and jobs and views. They were, and are, trying to build something bigger. People like you hold them back.

I've watched John King on CNN say literally the same thing about Pennsylvania about 15 times. Must be time for bed

Yeah. Im out. This is ridiculous that 6 states are holding up the process. Get your shot together.

Nebraska District 2 projected for Biden. Biden just needs Wisconsin and Michigan to get to 270.

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I didn’t appreciate Steve Kornacki on the board until I saw John King and the guy from Fox.

Hyberbole statement. Would obviously never vote for Trump. The point being made is that the current DNC candidate selection process is clearly not working/flawed/not jiving with voters who MATTER (aka YOUNG minority voters). So maybe, just maybe, it is high time y'all coalesce behind the the "left" candidate. Let's try it. Maybe you'll like it.

You should seriously log off and calm down man.

And you want to be the spokesman for the party? No wonder you can't beat anyone. You couldn't think your way out of a paper bag. I love how you're cherry picking here. It's almost like.. wait no, sorry, you're completely fucking clueless. Make up whatever shit fits your narrative. Go back to the armchair and keep screaming about how much you fucking care. You ain't done shit. Walk on man. You're fucking pathetic.

There's a portion of Sanders' base that hate other Dems more than Trump. That's who gets the backlash. It's very telling. They cost people elections

When pilotman is the target of your edgy liberal rage than you're just confused. Look back at the shit you're saying to people when you sober up.

Mate, that is literally the most pathetic, non-substanstive response possible. Lot of words and bluster but nothing substantial. Are you sober? Who is the drunk one here?

Unfortunately tomorrow you'll still be unemployed because the candidate you supported couldn't beat the worst candidate in American history who gives no fucks about you and is destroying your industry and refusing to help you out. For the record I am on your side. I think you deserve help. That is the point here. But y'all keep voting against your own self interest. You'll get it eventually. Or you won't. We can only do so much, us socialist.

On the NYT board, 91% of Georgia now counted. It's gone down to Trump +3 and the Needle has gone up to 64% Biden. Fulton County is going to count mail ballots in the morning (they've gone home for the night).

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https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/stat...519565825?s=19

And Lucy McBath (D) in the 6th District holds her seat she won in an upset in 2018.

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Absolutely this. Living in a progressive bubble with no understanding that they aren't getting cheated at every turn, but that not even even most registered democrats have moved far enough left yet. I think Biden is a shit candidate and if it wasn't for Trump I'm not sure I'd vote for him, but trump exists, so that's the very easy and obvious reality to get behind Biden and be happy for the possibility of some sort of return to normalcy, even though normalcy is still terrible for millions of Americans who would benefit from Social Democracy. But we are here now, and we have to work with what we can to advocate. People like BillyMadison really hurt that in an active way. It's too bad.

Nice gem I found from the 2008 election night:

That's just it. You think you have the answers, but you don't know Jack fucking shit. Which is, I guess, where you fall. I can't fault you that badly. I guess you really are your namesake after all. Take another shot. That brain cell will die eventually.

It seems like Georgia may be more promising than Wisconsin.

I actually love Joe Biden. Like, I love the guy. Empathetic, true, honest. A good person. So in my mind, a good candidate. And maybe you're right! Maybe no Dem candidate could compete with the worst incumbent Presidential candidate in American history alongside a pandemic and a sinking economy and rampant racism and an FBI blowing warning signals that white supremacy (which said candidate endorses) is the biggest national security threat.

But it's the activist Dems that are trouble and are sinking things.

Here's a question: will you get behind new DNC leadership going forward? What does that look like for you? What are your limits? What do you think wins in 2024—if, and even IF we have the opportunity to vote again—and please don't say a moderate that can win republican voters...? Is that too much to ask?

well the senate looks to be a big fucking loss.

Senate is gone (MT just about a formality to be called in the next 30 mins)... but feels like maybe if all votes are counted then Biden is still just about the favorite for president? Definitely a weird night, and can't wait for the lawsuits to start tomorrow.

WTF is that clown anyway?

Which is such a 2020 statement, it's unreal.

Truth.

Cautiously optimistic on WI. 169,000 Milwaukee mail in votes not yet counted.

Always fun to add another to the ol' ignore list. So much anger and so little vocabulary.

Not surprising. There is a racist element in the far left, only furthered by minority rejection of Sanders in 16 and 20.