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I don't know what reality is anymore

It's really amazing.

Is anyone watching the videos from the guy who supposedly has a bomb outside the Library of Congress? It's exactly who you would expect.

Is there a reason Facebook let him stream for an hour?

Both sides must be heard.

His wife said he voted for the first time in his life, for Trump, was mentally disturbed by the election results:

Bomb Threat Suspect Surrenders After Threatens Explosives in DC – NBC4 Washington

Republicans sure are effective at getting people out to the polls.

Floyd Ray Roseberry would be a good 80's wrestler hick character name.

My statement on the Capitol bomb threat: pic.twitter.com/yCuTNTbJyP

— Mo Brooks (@RepMoBrooks) August 19, 2021

Doubling down, I see

Not really surprising from him

SI

Perhaps we jumped to conclusions and that it was actually dictatorial socialism behind the wheel of that bomb truck.

I was just reading this article (even tho it's five months old, it was new to me) which seem semi-related?

Who Is Lauren Boebert’s Father? Inside Stan Lane’s 1980s Paternity Case

Facebook likes money. It gets money from ads. Ads pay more money with high engagement. Facebook gets the most engagement by being a rightwing disinformation site with a skin of being the place that you go to wish your Aunt a happy birthday.

I saw them aggregated on a Twitter account. I basically treat Facebook like MySpace - I mainly spend time in groups for music and hobbies.

"Investigators said Roseberry's criminal history was "nothing that serious." In the late 1980s, Roseberry was charged with larceny over $200 and driving without a license. He was given probation for those offenses. Cleveland County court records indicate he was convicted of resisting a public officer in 1993 as well."

Yeah, if this were a PoC shot by police, damn well sure that'd be serious enough.

We'd also be waiting for the "trace amounts of marijuana in his system" report.

Texas Dems returned to Texas to give the legislature a quorum to pass all the GOP special session laws. When they started their quorum breaking, I did not realize they had no endgame. The whole thing seems like a bunch of silly theater. I always give too much credit to the strategic thinking of the Democratic Party..

The local activist community here is pissed, particularly since there had been no indication that they were going to get arrested.

SI

It seems like there were two non-galactically-stupid options:
(1) Don’t do it, or
(2) Do it and see it through.

But door number 3: Take a trip to DC, accomplish nothing, and make sure that the GOP knows that your bluffs should always be called, was not a good choice.

The end game was Dems passing a federal law, but Sinema and Manchin don't care.

They were trying to put pressure on the Democrats in the Senate to pass a voting rights law.

To show you how little effort the FBI and DOJ is putting into January 6th, folks on Reddit and stuff are doing deeper investigations.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-vide...mpression=true

So they didn't meet with Sinema, and met with Manchin but didn't bring up breaking the filibuster, just agreed that a voting rights bill would be good. So the usual half-assed effort Democrats give.

That's an intriguing take. I'm curious what left-of-center influencers they've banned to earn this assessment?

Don't think left of center influencers really use Facebook for the reasons albion stated.

If that was their goal, they wouldn't ban Trump and also ban others for 'misinformation', some of which is actual misinformation and some of which is manifestly not.

A house divided against itself cannot stand. Facebook does not behave as a site that's trying to attract right-wing disinformation, it acts like a site that is trying to get rid of the appearance of it.

https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10?s=09

That should give you an idea of what the users and company want to promote.

Both Sides, smh

Yes Leftists are flooding FB with a ton of misinformation on Vaccines, Russia, Voting, Ukraine, Child Trafficking, Q, BLM, etc. Those F'n libs!!!!!!!!

Also, just so I don't come off as too high and mighty-if I were in their position, and someone told me "Hey, you are going to have to leave your wife and kids and go live in a hotel in another city, and you might not be back until 2022 or later," I would have said no. I wouldn't have wanted to make that sacrifice.

So I can totally understand why they wanted to come back.

But what I can say is that I would have said no in the beginning. I would not have gone along, knowing the whole time that I'd not see it through.

Dude, Ben Shapiro? Really? Does he just churn out a ton of content so they can mine the turd diamonds in the rough? He's like a bargain basement Sean Hannity

SI

His site gets more engagement than the NYT, Washington Post, CNN, and NBC News combined on Facebook.

They do game the system real hard by setting up feeder pages that are just fake conservative groups. And since they don't do original reporting, most of their stuff is plagiarized which gives them a huge advantage in how much content they can churn out.

So basically, like an SBNation of far Right Wing stupid?

SI

Good thing Mexico paid for the wall.

Silver Creek near San Bernardino NWR. Monsoon storm leave gates in disrepair. #BorderWall pic.twitter.com/6F1IkNK8zo

— Kate Scott (@madreanwildlife) August 19, 2021

Except that there's significant pushback from some of that list on right-wing misinformation. I.e. on the Jan 6th trials, on the vaccine, on support for Trump, etc. Then we've got apolitical animal & pop culture sites in there, NPR, etc.

If their goal is to be a right-wing misinformation platform and this is the result, they need to fire all of their executives for gross incompetence.

Again, you're arguing all the points that no one is making. No one says their goal is solely to be a right-wing misinformation platform, though, yeah Zuckerberg clearly has some authoritarian right tendencies.


But right wing disinformation pays well in their model so they're not about to cut it off.

It's not nearly as toxic to advertisers or payment services as, apparently, consensual porn is (lol OnlyFans).

SI

Exactly. It is not so about promoting, just cashing in on as much of it as they can.

To the contrary, I've argued directly and specifically against what people have said. Your own post says it's not soley a right-wing misinformation site, then says that pays well in their model so they're not going to cut it off, even though I've already talked about the fact that they *have* cut a lot of that stuff off, and the list RainMaker linked purported to be a refutation of that but in fact it actually isn't because it has lots of content that isn't right-wing misinformation and very little that is; because Facebook *has* in fact removed lots of that content.

This has all the appearance of someone constantly saying 2+2=5, and then someone else comes along and says 'no that's four', then the response 'of course 2+2=4, nobody claimed it wasn't'.

They have cut out some of the most extreme stuff on the most extreme fringes as it's profitable to do so - it gives the appearance of doing something and the PR probably costs less or is a wash with what the most extreme stuff was making them in ad revenue. But far right wing stuff is still very profitable and very prolific on Facebook.

SI

That's a reasonable take that I wouldn't necessarily object to. In regards to who uses it, it's interesting that virtually all social media lean left. Facebook is more conservative in the sense that it's closer to even, but still has slightly more of a liberal constituency (72-69 last study I've seen).

Full audit report on so-called AZ Audit is delayed.

“The team expected to have the full draft ready for the Senate today, but unfortunately Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and two other members of the five-person audit team have tested positive for COVID-19 and are quite sick." pic.twitter.com/fXumvuhnX7

— Dianne Gallagher (@DianneG) August 23, 2021

Why, yes, of course they **** are. What's a thrillingly annoying story like that without a final punchline ?

At least they didn't say his dog ate it.

shocking!

We knew the Dems were going to give them COVID to prevent the truth from coming out.

Probably coming out right after Trump announces his replacement for Obamacare and his tax audit gets wrapped up.

Not sure where this goes, and I don't want to start a DeSantis thread. But apparently 51% of Floridians think that DeSantis is putting his political ambitions ahead of everyday Floridians.

Which means that at the peak of the pandemic in Florida, 50% of the state is OK with his leadership/approach.

Which makes me think that the Dems need to start thinking of Florida like Ohio. A former swing state that has turned reliably Red.

My wife spent 30+ years in Florida, has many relatives there, and I spent 15+ years there with a number of old friends/acquaintances remaining. Of those who were reliably conservative 20+ years ago, I can only think of 1 who has not gone off the deep end, to some degree. It's really disturbing.

You may well be right, but that stat doesn’t on it’s own lead to that conclusion, and doesn’t match an article I found from the last few days (today in fact)

Another poll shows Ron DeSantis' favorability rating underwater

Hershel Walker is running for senate as Trump's hand picked candidate in Georgia, and I am now going to put my head through a brick wall.

I saw something about his wife illegally voting in the GA election from Texas because that's where they claim their homestead exemption? I don't know what came of it or if there's anything to it but that's funny.

I’m sure her intentions were pure


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There's an official investigation, but nothing is likely to come of it. They do own property in Georgia, and in the past things like this have not led to charges.

Not if you're rich.

Yup, and if you vote Republican helps too.

Texas upholds sentence for woman who didn’t know she was ineligible to vote | Texas | The Guardian

Tommy Tubberville has turned out so well!!

Is it possible to trade a senator to Minnesota?

:D

I don't think Minnesota would give that much up a second time.

"Skip, I'm telling you, Georgia got FLEECED! Minnesota gets Hershel Walker. HERSHEL WALKER! He's a top-5 Senator. That's a FACT. You can WIN CONGRESS with him. What did Georgia get? A bunch of young state reps and some mayors and an Attorney General? Really? For HERSHEL WALKER??!!"

I was thinking the same thing when it was announced, but then I do really wonder. Conventional wisdom says Walker won't win the general election, but conventional wisdom has been thrown out the window since Trump. Attacks on Walker could backfire into all attention going his way, and the people feeling like he is being targeted. I already worried that the mid-terms were probably be more GOP leaning than the general. Having Walker on the ballot might be a even bigger Republican motivator.

Walker is just about the bet opposition for Warnock, though.

They'll just make it take 10 hours to vote in Atlanta instead of 8.

Not really. Walker has not done much for the urban Atlanta voter. And his very Trumpy opinions are death in the suburbs. I think Gary Black would have beat Warnock. Walker still might, but he actually makes it a closer race.

Sorry, I meant he's best for Warnock. A more conventional GOPer I think is a much tougher fight.

Gotcha. Yes, he is. Well, a lesser know white guy that had pictures with Klansmen would probably be the best, but Walker is up there.

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I think people are downplaying Warnock's chances a bit too much. I mean Stacey Abrams is going to be on the top of the ballot which is going to massively increase turnout, even with GOP fuckery.

(And the GOP top of ticket is going to controversial regardless if it's Kemp or someone else)

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My FIL is a lifelong republican, card carrying NRA member, voted Trump in 2016 and supported him through majority of his term, told us yesterday his biggest fear is Trump getting the nomination in 2024 because there is no way he could ever vote him again. The election fraud drove it home for him and 1/6 really piled it on. He still is very anti dem, a lot of which is driven by years of Fox news, and will never vote that way, so it leaves him on an island.

I wonder if there is a growing number like that since the events of 1/6.

There is a number. It is still the minority of the Republican party, but it is there.


Correction: Minority of those VOTING Republican. I really think most of the Trump vote couldn't care less about the GOP in general.

...couldnt

...corrected.

Of course they couldn’t. It’s all about owning the mind. That’s where my FIL and likely others get off the train.

With Ida set to reach land this morning I remembered Dorian and it feels like it's been 15 years and approximately 5 million scandals since sharpiegate.

So a woman in W. Va reached a plea deal with the federal govt and was charged on one count of knowingly entering and remaining in a restricted building and grounds. She could get up to a year in jail for it and the judge would like for her to physically appear in court for her sentencing. Of course MAGA to the core though-she has not taken the COVID vaccine or her family and they are unlikely to before she gets her sentence:

West Virginia woman pleads guilty to January 6 riot charge

Another slap on the wrist. Give her a gift bag when this is over.

Is it too much to ask that some of these people actually end up in real jail for a real amount of time?

SI

Would be nice, but the combination of relatively minor offenses they've been charged with plus lack of prior history mitigates against it. In many cases, these people have respectable jobs/businesses and no criminal history.

Criminal law is far from my practice area, but the one time I was close to it was a case I handled while at the Florida DOI involving insurance agents who were charged with financial crimes. In nearly every case, they all got off light except the "ringleader" who they managed to do a plea deal with for a year of jail time. I don't recall anyone else getting anything but probation and fines.

Perhaps all of that will be offset by the liability many of them are represented by...

Um, what? We were told he was on a ventilator but apparently that may not be right. No one knows where he is? And he’s representing serious J6 defendants? Whoa. https://t.co/iwZl0DQqY9

— Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) August 31, 2021

I mean...it's not like anyone actually di.........

That was the choice of our DOJ.

If the people who did this were black or Muslim, every single person who helped Ashli Babbitt get through that window would be charged with felony murder. Everyone who entered the building would be facing felony charges and those who were caught committing violent acts would be facing decades in prison.

We don't have to guess about this either. People who protested near Trump's inauguration faced 65 years in prison. This was largely over property damage that many of the defendants had nothing to do with.
Bill Barr talked about how people crossing state lines to cause trouble would face federal charges based on the Anti-Riot Act of 1968 just a year ago (something I don't think any of the defendants have been charged with). Even Judges in these cases are asking prosecutors why they are going so light (which is not something you see every day from Federal judges).

And this doesn't even touch on the fact that most of these people wouldn't have been charged if it weren't for citizen sleuths finding out who they are and creating some viral notoriety. Feds were perfectly content with letting most of the people go.

We can do the math and figure out why such a historic violent event resulted in some petty charges while protestors that fall into other demographics have the book thrown at them.

It is weird but if I had nothing to hide I wouldn't completely freak out about my phone records being obtained...

McCarthy goes on TV to hold a press conference where he commits obstruction of justice on camera.

Law and order party really fucking quiet about crimes lately.

Between that and the goofy Mullin story... sigh.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/polit...tan/index.html

I mean, like, look, we know most politicians are corrupt. But this is like one or more standard deviations worse than normal. Again, if you're not punished at the polls, why not, I guess?

SI

These fucking weirdos want to play Rambo so bad but were too pussy to enlist.

Markwayne JohnPaul Mullet. That might be the perfect name for a GOP Congressman in 2021. He should totally go for it.

He went full Karen

"Mullin was outraged by the response, the officials said — threatening U.S. ambassador John Mark Pommersheim and embassy staff and demanding to know the name of staff members he was speaking with."

"I need to speak to your manager"

The thing that makes the phone records hard for the GOP is that the media treats private stuff as more important because it feels like they had to investigate to get it.

If Biden were to give a speech where he said that he thought that puppies weren't cute, the reaction would be "Wow! Bold stance by the President. How will the GOP react?"

But if Biden sent a private text saying that he thought puppies weren't cute and the media got it? It would be Puppy-Gate and he'd have to apologize.

I don't think that there will be anything on these phone records that's any worse that what they've been saying in speeches for months. But because it is a "secret" record, the media storm will be worse.

True enough. I think there will at least be a couple of "family values congressman talks to his dominatrix 10 times a day" stories as well. I can think of some non-January 6th reasons for not wanting phone records to get out.

It was only a year ago:

Trump encouraged people to vote twice in November, mailing in an absentee ballot, then voting in person on Election Day. “Let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system’s as good as they say it is, then obviously they won’t be able to vote,” he said.

and

Trump signed a memo listing Democrat-led cities that should have their federal funding cut — for being “anarchist
jurisdictions.”

Only a year......

The QAnon Shaman apparently has a deal in place and will plead guilty tomorrow. Sounds like time served unless a Judge says differently.

What an absolute fucking farce.

Just awful

SI

4 years and a $1.5 million fine.

Apologetic Betts gets four years in federal prison for inciting riot at Market Place Mall | Courts-police-fire | news-gazette.com

SMH

I'm not opposed to the punishment BUT I'd like to see some correlation between people who commit similar crimes :(

Gee, I wonder what the difference between these two sets of defendants is? /s

SI

I'm not sure... It's so hard to discern. Maybe location in the country? Who rioted where? I'm strugglin'

The stuff I'm reading says he'll get 3-4 years in jail with credit for time served plus a fine.

Yup, he is still not being released and is probably getting 3-4 years. There was big jump to conclusion somewhere. It looks like there is a large section of the January 6th people who are getting something in that same ballpark, while those who assaulted police officers are looking at much worse.

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SOmebody is running out of money.

Donald Trump has signed a contract to call a “gamecast” of Saturday’s boxing event headlined by Evander Holyfield-Vitor Belfort, Triller tells ESPN. The former president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., will join him. Both Trumps will be in person in Hollywood, Florida.

— Mike Coppinger (@MikeCoppinger) September 7, 2021

Triller is going to book a Trump v. Giuliani boxing match.

Florida would sanction it