The right never gives up on anything. Fox is still pushing hydroxychloroquine, for God's sake.

LOL...

My spouse (a real lawyer) posted this yesterday lol pic.twitter.com/nRoBPGdmHu

— MommaOgress (@FracturCritical) June 15, 2021

I've seen teenagers get more punishment for egging a house than this.

Anna Lloyd is set to become the first Jan. 6 defendant to be sentenced (hearing set for Friday) — she's pleading guilty to one misdemeanor, asking for no jail time. Here's her sentencing memo, which says govt agrees with probation + $500 restitution: https://t.co/Zxc4UhGy0P pic.twitter.com/vbMFeyOJvV

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) June 15, 2021

So the FBI planned the Insurrection with BLM and tricked MAGAs into joining them into storming the capitol at the behest of Republican government officials to stop the stealing of the election that was orchestrated by China and Venezuela with the assistance of the private company Dominion who were awarded the contracts by Republican government officials who publicly support Donald Trump but also haven't done enough to help him.

Or, a known grifter is lying to you.

What's frightening is just reading shit in some of these right wing safe spaces. There are way too many people that actually believe this, believe hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes are being discovered in these audits, and that Trump will be named President in August or is already secretly President.

"So finally, we're all in agreement about what's going on with the adults. Milhouse?"
"Ahem. OK, here's what we've got: the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people --"
"Thank you."
"-- under the supervision of the reverse vampires --"
"-- are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We're through the looking glass, here, people..."


SI

I use this simpsons quote at least once a week.

Also the Milhouse Shelbyville conversation.

The Lemon of Troy is one of the most underrated Simpsons episodes. It should be in that jumble of top 30 episodes that people draw their top 10 list from but it isn't.

SI

pic.twitter.com/M6EOjLZUMG

— Douglas M. Charles, FBI+ historian (@DouglasMCharles) June 16, 2021

Someone posted about CRT on my towns local facebook page. I am shocked the administrators left it up, as it is going exactly where you think it would. I live in a VERY red town that is 95% white and decidedly upper middle class. Lots of comments about "working hard" and "equal opportunity"

Funny how some still harp on equal opportunity, when that right has only been fully extended for just over 50 years, and many who stood against it, are either still here or have passed their bigotry on to a new generation.

"Sure, I know the rest of us had a 200 year head start on this equal rights shit, but come one, catch up, don't be lazy!"

My mom went to high school with one of the guys making a lot of comments, so I know about him. I just want to say it is a lot easier to cross home plate from third base than first base. Something tells me they won't get it.

It also provided us one of the more versatile Simpsons memes.

Yeesh. I assume a significant part of this is the Trump/Putin love affair and the "I love/support everything Trump loves/supports," but still...

"In two polls taken this week — one by Morning Consult for Politico, the other by YouGov for the Economist — Putin has a better net favorable rating among Republicans than Biden does, by margins of 16 and 22 points." https://t.co/6X1A2WAZWR

— Will Saletan (@saletan) June 17, 2021

At some point someone needs to put a stop to this, I mean, right?

Arizona Sham Auditors Transport Voting System Data To Secret Montana Hideout | HuffPost

No, it's eventually going to be finalized and then used as a legitimate audit that proves there was illegal voting and vote-shifting that went on, for the dual purposes of (a) inciting Trumpies further to give money and prepare for the next insurrection opportunity and (b) providing the precursor for states to enact further voter restrictions.

Since Rudy and gang failed miserably in demonstrating any valid widespread voter fraud, the only alternative was to make some up. Either way, they've now got "proof" under the guise of an "official" determination.

One of the lessons from the Trump administration is that there is no “someone” out there to save us. There is no “Book ‘em, Dano” figure who’s going to emerge from the corner and put handcuffs on all the bad guys. We save ourselves, or we don’t get saved at all.

Yeah, the CRT thing is bonkers ... Who had "claim analysis of racism as racist by way of villifying an obscure scholarly theory used in certain college courses as a way to indoctrinate 10 year olds by making it an umbrella term for everything they wanna get rid of" on their bingo card ? I mean, it's not surprising they went on to the next crazy thing, using the same narratives as with others crazy things, but still.

Wouldn't it be something it McCarthy spent all this time kissing the ring, full well knowing who Trump is and the damage he caused, just for the republicans to win back the majority and name Trump speaker of the house.

I could see that happening....except Speaker is too much actual work for Trump.

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He wouldn't care. What makes you think he wouldn't smash the norms in place?

Bad news everyone, the long awaited reinstatement of Trump has been pushed back to fall.

Lindell is like a crazy homeless person, wandering the streets babbling nonsense, only with millions of dollars and a platform.

At this point, he's the apocalyptic preacher constantly predicting the end of times to his flock. The flock might get smaller and smaller, but the real followers only get more hardened in their beliefs. Then throw in just enough meat to keep people hanging on and coming back, and before you know it, boom... you have a full blown, fully accepted religion. And once that religion has enough legitimacy it's fully accepted as part of the mainstream. History has shown this to be effective over and over.

The AZ "audit" is going to be used to legitimize this BS. It will never go away.

But we should all move on from trump investigations for the healing of the country, because the left just can't let anything go because they are such sore losers.

A consistent theme we have seem during the Trump era is this ability to convince millions of people he is going to make something happen that there is zero constitutional ability to do, then when it inevitably doesn't happen those people get very upset at the left and their agenda.

Pence overturning the election results is 1A of this.

Not exactly to do with Trump(ists), but since CRT has been discussed here and it touches on Jan 6th:

After being asked about Critical Race Theory, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley delivers an answer every American should watch.pic.twitter.com/MrJl5oCvsw

— Rantt Media (@RanttMedia) June 23, 2021

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/23/10095...n-the-military

That's actually about as good a rebuttal to the whole "indoctrination of the military (or whatever else) by CRT meets Wokeism" trope as i could think of: Acknowledging that the exact theory is sth that you don't just "get" overnight, but then pretty much nailing why there is an inherent need to understand the society you live in and the World at large, then giving a pretty coherent approximation of the theorie's gist (or at least general historiographical thinking) and that yes, wanting to know about a nations past, warts and all, is actually a worthwile endeavour and relevant to understanding the present.

Plus, he apparently annoyed the shit out of Matt Gaetz, which is nice ;) (he is adressing Michael Waltz in the end, not Gaetz)

Gaetz is such a disrespectful douche, shaking his head like that. I really do hope something comes up that sinks him.

Can i trade my GOP for Michigan's please? I will even let them bring their fraudit with them.

Michigan Republicans find no voter fraud and say Trump claims ‘ludicrous’

you have your own personal BYUGOP?

I wish I owned a few senators

LOL, if I did you can bet it would have everything this one doesn't. Like morals and common sense.

Matt Gaetz v Rebekah Jones is our country in a "nut"shell right now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/24/rudy...atements-.html

That's a shame.

It's a "Doubly Good" Guiliani day as a judge is hearing arguments from him, powell, and lindell about whether to dismiss the Dominion lawsuits against them.

Guiliani's law license revoked hehehe

My wife's step dad called her today and I've largely only known him since Trump went into office so I've only known him as the blind Trump supporter. Today was the first time I've heard him bash the GOP. He went on a 20 minute rant on the phone with her today about QANON, how stupid they are, how they're making the whole party look like idiots, they make the party sound like a cult, and mocking the dumb shit they say trying to link everything to a conspiracy.

The wife said it's the first time in about 5 years he actually sounded like himself.

Hope abounds!

i just wish these people would apologize for the way they've been acting

This. They think that they'll just be able to move on without addressing the past crazy. I want to see a, "Fuck, I'm sorry I got sucked into that BS." First, then we can move on.

And here we have this, at the same time Trump continues to promote this BS.

Former Attorney General Bill Barr on Trump's election fraud claims: "It was all bullsh*t"

And the sad truth is, his cultists will either scream fake news, call Barr a traitor, or just plain won't care.

The last quote from Mcconnell really says it all, party and power over country. It is disgusting.

Yep and he ain't even shy about it.

Don't look now but whatever Weisselberg and Trump Org are being charged with its looking tomorrow is the day

forgive me for not getting very excited. It will be a big nothingburger as always and his zealots and the right wing media will scream witch hunt.

The initial charges aren't expected to be much and won't implicate Trump himself. These are expected to be a series of charges that eventually get to Trump though.

This won't delay Trump's reinstatement any further will it?

you want nothingfries with that?

God I hope not

The new date is midaugust. If not, then the civil war starts. I heard it from a guy in a T shirt and ballcap

I had read that the biggest threat to Trump was that an indictment against the organization could/would allow all his creditors to call in their debts immediately resulting in the org's bankruptcy....though I don't quite understand why his creditors would collectively want to force that result, if the end result was them not getting paid.

So much of that is wishful thinking. It is not going to happen, and he has enough actual collateral that someone would probably step in and take the debt if it did. He has exaggerated his wealth for certain, and is far less liquid than he claims, but he does have some very valuable assets.

Jim Jordan being accused of diddling male wrestlers

I heard the most random thing yesterday. Not sure if it is true or not, but it makes sense.

When EMTs, nurses, etc. are trying to determine whether someone has had a neurological episode, one of the questions they ask is "Do you know who the President is?"

For obvious reasons, they've stopped using that question.

LOL

Weisselberg does the perp walk-arrested today for tax fraud and grand larceny. Trump Org charged too, but will need someone here with more legal/tax knowledge than me to say how bad this is for Trump World.

I have no idea of the details, but one of the things that Trump seems to be really good at is keeping his hands just enough off of illegal things to have plausible deniability for wrongdoing.

I imagine we will see a lot of illegal stuff that Trump and his kids clearly knew about. But the paper trail will be just vague enough that the prosecutors won't charge them and instead obliterate the foot soldiers who carried out the orders.

It looks to me like this is a very serious crime by a large organization.

So there'll be a $10 fine.

$10 is clearly too high!

I feel like this applies to most larger corporations. It's always someone in the middle who ends up as the patsy.

A small fine.

Trump went full Goebbels tonight:

“If you say it enough and keep saying it, they’ll start to believe you.” — Ex-President tonight in Sarasota

— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) July 4, 2021

Another excerpt form the book coming up


I know it is a redundant question, but for hells sake, how can someone so vile, self centered and just plain stupid continue to hold so much sway? The 2022 mid terms would be a fricking bloodbath if democrats would just dial back some of their extreme talking points and quit tripping over their proverbial dicks on things. Nobody outside of Trumps cult wants any part of this crap and they aren't enough to flip congress if democrats just injected some more common sense into how they address the countries issues.

I think 'extreme' is an interesting word here. I haven't heard much extreme out of the current admin. I mean I was told that Biden would be out already and Pelosi and Harris would be running things at this point. Taxes would be at extreme highs, the borders would be wide open for invasion, our guns would be extracted from us, and we would be unable to pray... I haven't seen any of that. What have I heard that might be extreme? They want to tax corporations more (which I think with the ProPublica piece) it's hard to argue the fair share argument any more (unless of course...time), they want the world to have a taxation floor for corporations, they want easier access to voting but I mean shoot, there's is like 100 cases of voter fraud (mostly mistaken voters) nationally? If that's extreme I don't know what tame is.

I realize that my perspective is skewed b/c I know a lot of non-MAGA conservatives. But I think that the better play for the establishment GOP (McConnell, McCarthy, Fox News, etc.) would have been to go hard anti-Trump starting on January 21st. Be open to prosecution for him and his kids, etc. Really just eliminate him and his toadies from the chess board.

There would have been a GOP civil war. But considering the speed of the news cycle, it would probably be mostly over by now. There would be some MAGA holdouts, of course. But most of them would have fallen in line by now. And all of those suburban conservatives would come back into the fold.

I think that, for a few months of pain, the GOP would be much better positioned for 2022 and 2024 (they could have still done all the voter suppression stuff in the states they controlled. They are using the Big Lie as an excuse, but it isn't like they needed an excuse).

I think that's probably right, albionmoonlight, but obviously personally risky for those who try to lead the charge away from the path of least resistance.

Oh yeah. This would have to be preceded by a super secret meeting with McConnell, McCarthy, Romney, Cheney, Fox News, etc. where they all agreed to do this. It would have had to been coordinated. And they would have had to pledge not to break ranks when the heat got turned up.

They just would have had such an advantage tactically over the MAGAs.

And, as a bonus, it probably ends with none of them ever having to be in the same room as Ted Cruz ever again.

Several of them floated trial balloon statements attempting to head down the "F Trump, he's over" path shortly after January 6th - McConnell, McCarthy, Haley, among them - and it is abundantly clear that they felt the play was to back off that line and either talk around it (McConnell) or jump back into the fire (McCarthy).

It looks like they all took a tiny half step forward and when the rest of the line took a step back, they quickly took their places in line. Not really sure who is leading among the elected party officials if the leaders don't think they can get anyone to follow.

I just think way too much of the party is too far gone. Maybe if they do get roasted in the next couple of elections? I just don't really have faith that is going to happen.

It's not going to happen, because the Dems suck at politics and because too much of the country is too stuck on supporting one of the two parties no matter what.

R's calling their own party Neofascists still won't sway a lot of people, even with all the truth in it. There is and will be a solid 35-40% that can't see any other way forward than this one. We all studied the horror of McCarthyism and had the 'it'll never happen here' mindset when thinking about Nazi's, yet there is overwhelming evidence that the seeds are here and they are more than rotting in the soil. They have a foothold and are ready to come back just as hard as before.

The movie US is real

Apparently this was being handed out at CPAC.

I just can't get over the fact that the whole plan hinges on the Black caucus flipping and supporting Trump.

Well until/if they reveal step 1 in their plan which depending on what it is no journalist/investigative reporter left or right has ever done, then I'd say their chances of winning me over are slim to none. I also think its funny that now that they are doing non-Constitional things to get Trump back in office then they want to do Constiutional things when Trump gets back in office by though non-Cost. ways.

I prefer the Underpants Gnomes' plan.

The GOP is pretty quickly becoming fully pro-insurrection now that Trump is leaning into it.

2nd biggest county in SC. The county GOP leadership resigned due to lawsuit and physical threats from the Tea Party/Q-Anon faction. And they just had a large Q convention this weekend.

The GOP is completely the Q party in the South and any idea that they could be anything else going forward is extremely naive.

We are doomed.

An Oklahoma Senate candidate courted QAnon voters at a Q convention. Then he posted a pic of his daughter wearing red shoes — which QAnon believers see as a symbol of the cabal. Now QAnon is convinced he's a child trafficker. https://t.co/4DEYjGrshH

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) July 13, 2021

That sounds eerily reminiscent of Charles Manson's blueprint for "Helter Skelter."

Apparently Cyber Ninjas official address is a rented mailbox at a Sarasota UPS store. What a fucking farce.

Congress raises stakes with examination of Arizona's sham 'audit'

I went to the site and there is a bunch of stuff about satanic rituals and how Nancy Pelosi was working with Jim Jones to kill all those people at Jonestown. Very sane, normal people.

Republicans here tried to get a lawsuit, requesting information on cyberninjas audit process dismissed and thankfully a judge rejected their request.

I know a lot of republicans here and they are all good, decent people. How do the batshit crazy ones keep getting elected to office.

TV ratings and social media ad clicks incentive the amplification of these individuals.

People are living through their politicians who now say out loud the things they can't say directly to their neighbors, and are mean/spiteful/sarcastic about it, which amps up the entertainment value of it all. It's like a win-win-win for these people.

I looked at that website, thinking it was to drive folks there to buy MAGA-type merchandise. Nope! It looks like it is a stream of consciousness from someone with severe mental illness.

I feel like this is symptomatic of journalism these days. Is this particular description just rote clickbait or stupidity?

It's fine if you want to identify him in the article as "the man seen waving a large Trump 2020 flag on the Senate floor" as a lead-in to the article that explains what he actually pleaded guilty to. But tying the flag-waving to his plea is both inaccurate and downplays the severity of, you know, his actual crimes.

NEW: Paul Allard Hodgkins, 38, of Tampa, FL has been sentenced to 8 months in prison after waving a large "Trump 2020" flag on the floor of the Senate on January 6th.

He previously pleaded guilty to a single count of obstructing an official proceeding. @PeteWilliamsNBC reports.

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) July 19, 2021

The Judge and prosecutor also downplayed it as well. 8 months is a nice slap on the wrist and shows that terrorism is fine if you're white.

Somewhat predictable McCarthy wants to put Jim Jordan on the Jan 6th committee. I don't care if it looks bad, that needs to be a hell no from Pelosi.

agreed...gym can get bent.

A modern GOP parable from my weekend:

I was playing D&D this weekend and a homeless dude fell down outside our DMs house trying to rip down a Recall Ted Wheeler (Portland mayor) sign, yelling 'call 911! call 911!' from their driveway. Then while our DM is talking to him, trying to comfort him and calling him an ambulance the dude is calling him a communist because of the Bernie bumper sticker on the car he has collapsed next to.

An obviously destitute old white man complaining about communism in the middle of a physical & mental health breakdown while someone else calls social services for him: today's Republican base.

That's some interesting D&D game you have there. I'm guessing he rolled a critical failure when trying to rip down the sign?

:lol:

Only the best people

Trump adviser Tom Barrack arrested on foreign-agent charges - POLITICO

Really depressing stuff.

I survived the Stoneman Douglas school shooting and my dad is suddenly convinced I'm a liar and part of a false-flag operation : QAnonCasualties

I usually read that subreddit every day. It's disturbing and fascinating from a human behavior perspective. It's also tragic, depressing and quite unbelievable. It's hard to imagine the things that these people are going through.

She rejected him and another member.

Jim Banks of Indiana

lol. Being reported McCarthy pulled all his nominations for the committee. What a bitch.