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Ghost Econ 05-25-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3336790)
Texas passed a law today that you don't need ID, background check or a permit to carry a gun.

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God already created the perfect ID check and you can't improve on that.

BYU 14 05-25-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3336794)



You couldn't write satire better than the actual republican party right now.


Yeah, but he can draw up a trap play!

Lathum 05-25-2021 12:42 PM

And they continue to just own themselves daily.


Ksyrup 05-25-2021 12:47 PM

I believe this was the exact quote of the threat:

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you

Kodos 05-25-2021 01:26 PM

It was Richard Marx!

Ghost Econ 05-25-2021 04:38 PM

I see Marjorie Taylor Greene is doubling down on the Holocaust rhetoric, which is odd since most COVID deniers also deny the Holocaust.

albionmoonlight 05-25-2021 05:03 PM

I get that it’s all tied up in that Evangelical end times worldview.

But it is still so weird to see rabid support for Israel sitting side-by-side with open anti-Semitism in the same party.

Ghost Econ 05-25-2021 05:19 PM

Because once the Jews take care of the Muslims, they'll roll over for the rightful heirs of Israel.

JPhillips 05-25-2021 05:26 PM

You have to get all of the Jews to Israel so that the end times start and God can convert all of them to Christianity.

molson 05-25-2021 07:02 PM

I've been trying to tell you guys for almost 20 years here that Richard Marx was undermining our Democracy. And nobody listened. Nobody listened!!

Kodos 05-25-2021 07:51 PM

We Should've Known Better...

sabotai 05-25-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3336831)
I've been trying to tell you guys for almost 20 years here that Richard Marx was undermining our Democracy. And nobody listened. Nobody listened!!


I'm sorry....I honestly thought it was Kenny G who was the real threat.

Ksyrup 05-26-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3336827)
I get that it’s all tied up in that Evangelical end times worldview.

But it is still so weird to see rabid support for Israel sitting side-by-side with open anti-Semitism in the same party.


I almost posted the same thing yesterday. Talk about walking a tightrope between the party's open and obvious pro-Israel support and the increasing number of party supporters who are anti-Jewish, conspiracy theory (which almost always includes Jews for some reason), and Camp Auschwitz hoodie-wearing Trump supporter scum.

CrimsonFox 05-26-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3336831)
I've been trying to tell you guys for almost 20 years here that Richard Marx was undermining our Democracy. And nobody listened. Nobody listened!!


I mean MARX is in his name!

and Right Here Waiting is about standing in line waiting for your bread...and Don't mean nothing is about the nigilistic fate of the bourgoisez and the proletariat for the worker's means of production.

CrimsonFox 05-26-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3336827)
I get that it’s all tied up in that Evangelical end times worldview.

But it is still so weird to see rabid support for Israel sitting side-by-side with open anti-Semitism in the same party.


you are saying it is odd for evangelical republicans to spout hypocritical word salad?

albionmoonlight 05-26-2021 05:48 PM

Trump getting caught up in a Spygate bribery scandal has a real “Ratings are down, so the writers are getting gimmicky” feel to it.

CrimsonFox 05-27-2021 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3336822)
It was Richard Marx!



miami_fan 05-27-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3336889)
Trump getting caught up in a Spygate bribery scandal has a real “Ratings are down, so the writers are getting gimmicky” feel to it.


I am happy to know I am not the only one who has similar thoughts.

Swaggs 05-27-2021 11:05 AM

I especially enjoy the fanboying over Brady and complaining to friends about his daughter marrying Kushner instead of him.

ISiddiqui 05-27-2021 12:00 PM

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/s...010743814?s=19

While Trump being so high up is annoying, I find Hawley's number to be hilarious. Even Liz Cheney got 1% lol

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Galaril 05-27-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3336933)
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/s...010743814?s=19

While Trump being so high up is annoying, I find Hawley's number to be hilarious. Even Liz Cheney got 1% lol

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So about 70% for obvious autocracy when you include Desantis, Trump and Trump Jr.

Lathum 05-27-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3336933)
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/s...010743814?s=19

While Trump being so high up is annoying, I find Hawley's number to be hilarious. Even Liz Cheney got 1% lol

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I suspect DeSantis will begin to climb. I think he is the guy the GOP machine want to go to war with. With a few exceptions these GOP lawmakers understand 100% Trump is a dead end, but not kissing the ring means they will get primaried. Following 2022 I think we see a gradual shift from Trump over to Desantis, especially with Trumps age and legal troubles.

whomario 05-28-2021 03:13 PM

Meanwhile in Arizona, a company called "Cyber Ninjas" (you could not make up a more fittingly crazy name) is now in charge of the everlasting search for the holy grail, um i mean "proof of large scale voter fraud":

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Auditors have reportedly scanned ballots with UV lights to look for secret watermarks that conspiracy theorists believe then-President Donald Trump’s Department of Homeland Security placed on legitimate ballots to differentiate them from fraudulent ones; they’ve also inspected ballots for traces of bamboo to determine if they were imported from Asia. The process was supposed to be completed by May 14, but workers were unable to finish the count in time, so the state Senate has extended its lease at the arena through the end of June.

What’s Happening In Arizona Is Not Really An Audit Or A Recount. It’s A Partisan Inquisition. | FiveThirtyEight

BYU 14 05-28-2021 04:11 PM

Welcome to my world in the desert the last two months, that article doesn't even fully capture the shit show this has turned into and even a good portion of republicans in the senate here think it's embarrassing. But yeah ,we have to stroke the deal leaders ego.

BYU 14 05-28-2021 04:36 PM

Just let the bolded part sink in for a moment

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Sen. Tommy Tuberville, a freshman Alabama Republican, told reporters on Friday that he would rather be fishing or golfing than voting on a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

Tuberville, who's held office for just 4.5 months, suggested that senators selflessly legislate on behalf of future generations and could use a break.

"We're in the fourth quarter of life," he said. "You know who were doing this for? You."

He added, "I'd rather be fishing right now, or golfing."

So we should all praise the fact that he is giving up his precious retirement time to fuck up the world for our kids and grandkids with his total lack of understanding of how Government works and apparent apathy for doing a job he chose to pursue.....But then again, golfing is apparently one of the main job duties per Trumps well thumbed playbook.

Check

JPhillips 05-28-2021 05:04 PM

Cyber Ninjas must not be getting the goods, because AZ is already looking at another recount.

Lathum 05-28-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3337055)
Cyber Ninjas must not be getting the goods, because AZ is already looking at another recount.


You mean the bamboo fibers aren't being found? Not enough Cheeto stains?

You have a link?

JPhillips 05-28-2021 05:55 PM

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...002/?gnt-cfr=1

Vegas Vic 05-28-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3336941)
I suspect DeSantis will begin to climb. I think he is the guy the GOP machine want to go to war with. With a few exceptions these GOP lawmakers understand 100% Trump is a dead end, but not kissing the ring means they will get primaried. Following 2022 I think we see a gradual shift from Trump over to Desantis, especially with Trumps age and legal troubles.


I live in Florida now, and I agree with you. DeSantis is Trump lite, without the drama, more charisma and a more polished speaker. He's not someone I will support, but the republican party as we knew it died in 2016. Say what you will about John McCain and Mitt Romney, but these were statesmen who could have a vigorous debate with the opposition and still keep it respectful. We probably won't see anything resembling that again in our lifetime.

whomario 05-29-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3337057)


How does seemingly every single one of those connected to these things have sth in their backstory crazy enough to seriously doubt a "based on a true story" sticker ?

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In 2010, he ran an unsuccessful campaign for Congress. But he got significant local media attention by staging an 11-day hunger strike to force his opponent into a debate.

He set up a cot in downtown El Cajon, where he lay until his opponent agreed to a single debate, according to reports in the San Diego Union-Tribune.


Ksyrup 05-29-2021 08:28 PM

Texas is going all out to make sure the next election goes their way regardless of how the actual votes turn out.

1. Texas Republicans just released the text of its voter suppression bill, SB7

Votes will be held before midnight Sunday

The bill includes a NEW PROVISION that allows judges to OVERTURN AN ELECTION "WITHOUT DETERMINING HOW INDIVIDUAL VOTERS VOTED"

Follow along if interested https://t.co/vfaRQZuqx0

cuervo72 05-29-2021 09:50 PM

But somehow, Democrats are still worse for many "independents."

BYU 14 05-31-2021 01:10 AM

And the enabling of batshit crazy continues at Q-Fest 21, or whatever the hell these crazies call their convention


Lathum 05-31-2021 07:01 PM


BYU 14 05-31-2021 10:51 PM

Now that's funny, love the pile on trolling by changing the name of the account after Gaetz RT'd it :lol: :lol:

Ksyrup 06-01-2021 08:18 AM

Perhaps this time law enforcement can attempt to stop illegal things before they happen. I assume "chatter" from the remaining insurrectionists is going to pick up, if it hasn't already. Someone check the hotel registries in DC for August.



Lathum 06-01-2021 08:27 AM

The DOJ is really in a no win position. If the arrest Flynn and others for clearly breaking the law it will be weaponized as political theater. If they don't we risk another January 6th, but likely worse.

BYU 14 06-01-2021 03:46 PM

So keeping in line with Powell and Flynn at the QAnut convention we are now getting this, which will of course is preposterous, enables the wackos in his base to attempt another January 6th stunt. Which will again be ignored and downplayed by republicans, as our democracy continues to erode. Fuck the country, what is the best way to avoid jail, stoke another insurrection.

Despite his predictions, Trump won't simply be reinstated as president

PilotMan 06-01-2021 04:13 PM

Not sure if you watched the HBO series on Q Anon, but one of the things that was discussed was certain high level military and intelligence people, and Flynn was their poster child for it, who they felt were co-opting the movement as a way to gain control over a segment of the population. It was the very same type of warfare that had made Flynn famous in the military and with the might of the 'smart' US military people behind it now, they could unleash it on the US populace for political power gains. Basically accused Flynn of doing all this on purpose and 'acting' crazy, saying it was hard to believe that a man who made his career employing these tactics in the military could suddenly be so disconnected from reality.

So as bad as Q shit is, it's way worse when you think that it could now be under control of people like Flynn, Stone, and other prominent intelligence officers for the purpose of political gains.

BYU 14 06-01-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3337219)
Not sure if you watched the HBO series on Q Anon, but one of the things that was discussed was certain high level military and intelligence people, and Flynn was their poster child for it, who they felt were co-opting the movement as a way to gain control over a segment of the population. It was the very same type of warfare that had made Flynn famous in the military and with the might of the 'smart' US military people behind it now, they could unleash it on the US populace for political power gains. Basically accused Flynn of doing all this on purpose and 'acting' crazy, saying it was hard to believe that a man who made his career employing these tactics in the military could suddenly be so disconnected from reality.

So as bad as Q shit is, it's way worse when you think that it could now be under control of people like Flynn, Stone, and other prominent intelligence officers for the purpose of political gains.


There is some logic in that, because if you think about it, we should have been able to track the source of Q down by now, if we put forth a concerted effort. Especially with the havoc it caused in the 2020 elections.

Still, I am shocked that people are so gullible and get sucked into following the constantly moving goalpost when all these wacky predictions don't come to fruition. Very much like a modern times version of the LSD experiments from the 60's.

What is it called, I'll have to check it out.

PilotMan 06-01-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3337220)
There is some logic in that, because if you think about it, we should have been able to track the source of Q down by now, if we put forth a concerted effort. Especially with the havoc it caused in the 2020 elections.

Still, I am shocked that people are so gullible and get sucked into following the constantly moving goalpost when all these wacky predictions don't come to fruition. Very much like a modern times version of the LSD experiments from the 60's.

What is it called, I'll have to check it out.


Q: Into The Storm - Official Website for the HBO Series

It gets pretty far down the rabbit hole of the internet and it seems a bit distracted at times but it really circles everything back and brings it home.

IlliniCub 06-01-2021 09:55 PM

The scariest part of Trumpism for me is on the community level, I'm starting to see these Q nuts gain traction for mayoral races and most frightening school board races. I've literally known of parents calling local schools to complain because teachers have referred to Joe Biden as the President. Not that they tried to influence student thinking, simply that they stated the man is president.

whomario 06-02-2021 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3337219)
Not sure if you watched the HBO series on Q Anon, but one of the things that was discussed was certain high level military and intelligence people, and Flynn was their poster child for it, who they felt were co-opting the movement as a way to gain control over a segment of the population. It was the very same type of warfare that had made Flynn famous in the military and with the might of the 'smart' US military people behind it now, they could unleash it on the US populace for political power gains. Basically accused Flynn of doing all this on purpose and 'acting' crazy, saying it was hard to believe that a man who made his career employing these tactics in the military could suddenly be so disconnected from reality.

So as bad as Q shit is, it's way worse when you think that it could now be under control of people like Flynn, Stone, and other prominent intelligence officers for the purpose of political gains.


The problem here is not that i think he's not doing this on purpose (of course he is, for this and other likely less complex reasons as well, like simply getting some fees for light work), but vastly overestimates his ability to controll it and/or pull the emergency break at the right time. And underestimates how diverse that audience actually is. 95% are absolutely there to be swayed/energized politically, but there's 5% where nobody can predict what the fuck they are really looking for, only that it's not winning elections. And those numbers change, when a 'respectable' figure gives credence to those aspects, however "wink wink, we just trolling the libs right ?" he tries to mitigate it by toeing around, like, say, not saying "we need to stage a coup" but saying "no reason not to have that here (if we ever need it)".

He thinks he's toeing a line without realizing where these people he wants to humour place the lines very differently and practically live in the subtext (this is what many the world over just don't get when it comes to modern extremist movements).

He propably thinks he's just doing the approachable man of the (these) people routine, let them think he/they take them seriously and mobilize them to donate and vote, because they think if he "gets them", the people he endorses will represent them. Then he turns around blasting "the Mainstream Media" for not getting that, implying they (and us) don't get it and what happens then is his original audience (live and otherwise) doesn't hear "oh, so he does not think Coups are cool ?" but "see, these stupid lemmings don't care about the point we are making, the fears we are having etc etc. But olde Michael gets it !".

And as IlliniCub says: On the local level, these ramifications are a lot more direct even if it's 'only' political influence.

PilotMan 06-02-2021 01:02 PM

29 days in, trump has shut his stupid ass blog down and acted like it was all part of a much larger plan. Very big brain moves going on.. the biggest.

thesloppy 06-02-2021 01:40 PM

Yeah, I feel like there is a growing disconnect between the GOP's fealty to the idea of Trumpism and the actual person Donald Trump. Not even the Republicans seem all that interested in Donald Trump the person these days, though they remain just as dedicated to hucking the suggestion of Trumpism and his shared victimhood. That can only get more absurd with time.

Lathum 06-02-2021 01:52 PM

Not sure where this belongs but this thread is a good catch all. This stuff about the Fauci emails is going to be so entertaining. It will be amazing to watch the Fox news talking heads glean every possible, remotely questionable phrase out of them and take it as far out of context as possible. The man is far from stupid and would never put anything in an email that could be used against him, yet Fox News et al. are going to try their best

albionmoonlight 06-02-2021 01:57 PM

I saw the headline of "FAUCI EMAILS LEAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Then I read and saw that it was his public emails which were uncontroversially and routinely obtained via a FOIA request.

That's not a leak.

Those are going to be the most boring and anodyne emails in history.

Lathum 06-02-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3337250)
Yeah, I feel like there is a growing disconnect between the GOP's fealty to the idea of Trumpism and the actual person Donald Trump. Not even the Republicans seem all that interested in Donald Trump the person these days, though they remain just as dedicated to hucking the suggestion of Trumpism and his shared victimhood. That can only get more absurd with time.


They are caught in a brutal cycle. Need to bend the knee to win the primary, then a lot of them will get killed in the election. They still have history on their side with regards to winning back the house, but I think we have to throw trends out the window when it comes to this. Peoples eyes are too open. I really hope I am right.

Lathum 06-02-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3337252)
I saw the headline of "FAUCI EMAILS LEAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Then I read and saw that it was his public emails which were uncontroversially and routinely obtained via a FOIA request.

That's not a leak.

Those are going to be the most boring and anodyne emails in history.


Already starting to see it. Someone talking head found an email from Feb 2020 saying we don't need masks. It's almost as if the basis of science is a hypothesis, then as information changes confirming or adjusting that thought. They love to hammer home the Fauci was against masks thing completely ignoring how much information we have now opposed to then.

albionmoonlight 06-02-2021 02:20 PM

You also know that Fauci is one of those guys who's just straight as an arrow. One of those dudes who probably uses his phone instead of his work computer to look up stuff like restaurant menus because "he does not want to misuse government resources."

I would not want to be the FoxNews intern having to sift through these emails looking for dirt.

GrantDawg 06-02-2021 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3337261)
I would not want to be the FoxNews intern having to sift through these emails looking for dirt.

Why? The kids are likely to win "MAGA" awards. It is not that hard to take statements out of context and make them sound like a conspiracy. I have seen quotes already saying that Fauci said the virus "look man made." They are just going to feed the MAGA crowd for weeks.

BYU 14 06-02-2021 04:17 PM

I've said it before, but it is tragically sad that so many Americans are so mentally weak that they can be lead by a lease through these hoops of lunacy.

kingfc22 06-02-2021 04:33 PM

Also a great demonstration on just how powerful propaganda can be

PilotMan 06-02-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3337274)
Also a great demonstration on just how powerful propaganda can be


100%

Propaganda sounded crazy when trump said it 'as a joke' then it became 'well maybe' then it became 'the gods honest truth' in 3 simple steps.

Just like trump will stay in the WH, then he'll be reinstated Jan20, then March, now August.

Just like the vaccine will kill everyone in 30 days, then 3 years.

The goalposts just get moved to wherever is convenient.

The people who buy into this are the ones with shallow social (in the person to person social version) safety nets, the ones with struggles in their lives, who are unstable, who don't cast very wide nets in the world of information. They are the ones who love 'magical thinking' and can make great leaps of logic in order to fit the world to their own view of it. Take the 'audit' in Arizona. It's about the least scientific thing there is. Instead of looking for oddities with an open mind, and trying to find any divergence from what was expected, like a scientist does, it's the complete opposite. They are taking existing theories, and trying to shoehorn data and evidence into those existing theories in an attempt to prove them. There's no way to disprove them. Should they not find what they are looking for they will simply say 'they did a really good job of hiding it, but it's there'.

Lathum 06-02-2021 08:17 PM

24 minutes into the Q documentary. These people are so mentally ill...

Lathum 06-03-2021 08:16 AM

Just heard on the radio, full disclosure CNN, that Trump got the August return date from Mike Lindell. The AI in the sim is broken....

Swaggs 06-03-2021 09:43 AM

There is just so much about Trump that feels like the little kid whose parents never let him learn how to lose.

In 2016, it was not accepting that he lost the popular vote or, if he did, he wouldn't have if he had not been campaigning to just win the electoral vote. And from there, it developed into a "landslide," "historical" victory.

In 2020, it is that he won the most votes ever by a sitting president (despite losing by 7-million in the popular vote) and that he won all the states that were close. The reason he didn't win is that he was cheated in the areas that they won in the closest states, even though we can't quite prove it and the rest of his party did well pretty much across the board.

Someone needs to tell the poor guy that sometimes you don't win.

Ryche 06-03-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 3337316)
There is just so much about Trump that feels like the little kid whose parents never let him learn how to lose.

In 2016, it was not accepting that he lost the popular vote or, if he did, he wouldn't have if he had not been campaigning to just win the electoral vote. And from there, it developed into a "landslide," "historical" victory.

In 2020, it is that he won the most votes ever by a sitting president (despite losing by 7-million in the popular vote) and that he won all the states that were close. The reason he didn't win is that he was cheated in the areas that they won in the closest states, even though we can't quite prove it and the rest of his party did well pretty much across the board.

Someone needs to tell the poor guy that sometimes you don't win.


And even in most of the states he won his margin went down by a similar margin to the states that flipped.

JPhillips 06-03-2021 11:08 AM

Trump's superpower is getting people to willingly incinerate all of their dignity.


NobodyHere 06-03-2021 11:26 AM

For all of Trumps flaws, I still remember Trump at the 2016 Republican primary debate saying that George W did not keep us safe on 9/11. He even got booed by the crowd for it. It was probably one of the few times I agreed with him.

Lathum 06-04-2021 11:10 AM

Looks like Facebook is paving the way for Trump to return



Lathum 06-04-2021 01:02 PM

Or not.

AlexB 06-04-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3337330)
For all of Trumps flaws, I still remember Trump at the 2016 Republican primary debate saying that George W did not keep us safe on 9/11. He even got booed by the crowd for it. It was probably one of the few times I agreed with him.


That’s a hell of an endorsement - I agreed with what he said once, 5 years ago

molson 06-04-2021 01:39 PM

I agreed with several of his firing decisions on Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice.

BYU 14 06-04-2021 02:34 PM

As if there was any doubt about Russia's intentions to undermine democracy.

Putin tries to amplify GOP efforts to whitewash the deadly Capitol attack, saying the insurrectionists weren't 'just a crowd of robbers and rioters'

albionmoonlight 06-04-2021 03:02 PM

Barnes & Thornburg Partner Leaves Firm After Representing My Pillow CEO in Suit | The American Lawyer

Life comes at you fast.

albionmoonlight 06-04-2021 03:13 PM

dola:

For context, from what I could tell from legal twitter, that firm was at risk of losing a LOT of clients due to that filing. Firing the partner was necessary (maybe not sufficient, but necessary) to save the firm.

Lathum 06-04-2021 03:38 PM

He should be fired for showing a heinous lack of judgment taking him on in the first place.

AlexB 06-04-2021 05:26 PM

Saw a post the other day saying that how in the hell can Trump just stroll back into the White House in August when he can’t get even get back onto Facebook :D

molson 06-05-2021 04:25 PM

I know there's been some confusion about how Trump will take office again and the mechanics of that, fortunately, conservative radio talk show host and former presidential candidate Dr. Laurie Roth, Ph.D, has cleared it all up:


miami_fan 06-05-2021 05:14 PM

Yes, it is wrong and unfair. Regardless, I looked it up and now I am judging the PhD program at Oregon State.

JPhillips 06-05-2021 05:24 PM

It seems like the plan after, something something August, is to make Trump the Speaker in 2023 and then impeach Biden and Harris.

AlexB 06-05-2021 05:30 PM

Seems legit to me. I think all PhDs would call it a which hunt, and need people to comfirm things for them. And the punctuation is impeccable.

thesloppy 06-05-2021 05:49 PM

I think my favorite part of that is the casual "the military gave him 2 more months as President."

Lathum 06-05-2021 06:12 PM

These talking heads don't believe what they say, but they know their gullible listeners do and they make a lucrative living off them so they keep up the charade.

BYU 14 06-05-2021 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3337455)
These talking heads don't believe what they say, but they know their gullible listeners do and they make a lucrative living off them so they keep up the charade.


It is prestige bias at it's finest. Put a PHD after your name and watch the gullible masses buy any Bullshit hook, line and sinker.

Lathum 06-05-2021 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3337456)
It is prestige bias at it's finest. Put a PHD after your name and watch the gullible masses buy any Bullshit hook, line and sinker.


While the rally against the elites and college type smart mouths.

It is amazing how they don't realize they are being played

Thomkal 06-05-2021 07:52 PM

Man they give out P.H.D's yo anyone these days don't they? If this Laurie Roth really does have one, they should take it away for all that nonsense

I. J. Reilly 06-05-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3337450)
Yes, it is wrong and unfair. Regardless, I looked it up and now I am judging the PhD program at Oregon State.


Geez, and I thought nothing could be more embarrassing than our football program.

Atocep 06-05-2021 08:30 PM

I'm a high up and trusted military source (I work in the IT department of an Army hospital). I can assure you Trump is not president. I'm happy I could clear that up for everyone.

Thomkal 06-05-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3337462)
I'm a high up and trusted military source (I work in the IT department of an Army hospital). I can assure you Trump is not president. I'm happy I could clear that up for everyone.


Thank God :)

JPhillips 06-07-2021 08:04 PM

The Trump Ukraine quid pro quo was all true and there's audio.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/polit...den/index.html

albionmoonlight 06-07-2021 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3337549)
The Trump Ukraine quid pro quo was all true and there's audio.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/polit...den/index.html


Of all the Trump misconduct, I bet this is still the one he does not get. His handlers have convinced him that people think it was bad, and he knows to repeat the no quid-pro-quo line.

But they had something he wanted. He had the ability to give them something they wanted. Why it was wrong for him to say "I'll give you this if you give me that" seems very hard for him to understand considering the way he's wired.

Ksyrup 06-08-2021 08:01 AM

Dr. Roth left out one part of the message - the part where her source offered her 4 pillows for the price of 3.

albionmoonlight 06-09-2021 07:58 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...mposter-fraud/

Who watches the Watchmen? But for cheap fraudsters.

Lathum 06-09-2021 11:26 AM

This is.....something.....


NobodyHere 06-09-2021 11:28 AM

It worked on Futurama

Lathum 06-09-2021 11:36 AM

Maybe they can use a Jewish space laser?

molson 06-09-2021 11:48 AM

What I take from that if that he's acknowledging climate change.

whomario 06-09-2021 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3337601)
What I take from that if that he's acknowledging climate change.


That's never been the real denial for many people though, right ? This has long been denying it being a) human induced/worsened/accelerated and thus b) can't be influenced by humans doing sth about it by changing things about their"Footprint".
It has long been popular to reference big, unchangeable natural reasons for climate change as the primary reason, thus suggesting (or just plainly saying) that best that can be done is cope. Which then also serves as the comfortable way out for many folks by supporting technological 'solutions' (either to cope or offset the causes, i.e. geoengineering. Both of course emminently important, but not as an exclusive strategy).
Or put blame on individuals for fallout like with the Wildfires. That's the sort of underlying framework this is serving here: frame it as a) impossible to change and b) thus time and energy would be better served focussing entirely on the fallout while just chugging along.

molson 06-09-2021 02:04 PM

Trump says global warming is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese, and the last I saw, there is still a significant number of Republicans who believe it's not happening at all.

My quick Google search tells me that a Gallup survey found that 59% overall believed global warming was happening in 2016, and and a Yale study found that 69% did in 2019. And it's probably fair to assume that most of those that don't out of those numbers are Republican.

whomario 06-09-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3337605)
Trump says global warming is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese, and the last I saw, there is still a significant number of Republicans who believe it's not happening at all.

My quick Google search tells me that a Gallup survey found that 59% overall believed global warming was happening in 2016, and and a Yale study found that 69% did in 2019. And it's probably fair to assume that most of those that don't out of those numbers are Republican.


Wasn't meant to say it's not sth a lot of folks believe, but politicians especially seem prone to go for the "yeah ok, but ..." option or the "it's unclear" option (might well be less popular than over here though) and not just on this topic. Might change of course, now that being crazy is a real selling point and there's less need to 'compromise'

Colour me shocked it is that high though. I mean, large part of the US population believes some crazy shit, often way more tangible stuff. Like thinking Dinosaurs aren't extinct and/or havin co-existed with humans.
Though i have to say these sorts of studies often have problematic methodology, i.e. these yes/no questions kinda skew towards people with some skepticism/doubts to say "no" on principle. Though i'd like to think both Yale and Gallup have that in-between are covered in some way ?

Overall it unfortunately comes down to the 2 party system again as a sizable portion of voters feels obligated to vote Rep despite disagreeing on their stance on certain issues. Because ultimately "green" policies do have a decent majority of all americans behind them, and even a sizeable portion of republicans in some instances.

How Americans see climate change and the environment in 7 charts | Pew Research Center

RainMaker 06-09-2021 03:24 PM

I think their views have changed a lot. At first they said it wasn't happening. As evidence kept mounting, they had to move to "we aren't causing it". Pretty sure we'll reach a point where the argument is that it is good for us.

Ghost Econ 06-09-2021 03:56 PM

Look, if we just change the orbit of the earth or the moon, we can finally get the dumb, woke millennials to get off our lawn.

cuervo72 06-09-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3337601)
What I take from that if that he's acknowledging climate change.


The angle I saw was that he was acknowledging it, but is of the mind that it is due to sunspots, orbits, etc. so unless if we can change those, we can't do anything about climate change.

RainMaker 06-09-2021 06:23 PM

Shocking I tell you that they are getting special treatment from the feds.

Revealed: majority of people charged in Capitol attack aren’t in jail | US Capitol breach | The Guardian

NobodyHere 06-13-2021 01:30 PM

MyPillow Guy’s MAGA Rally Rouses ‘Stop the Steal’ Truthers With Corn Dogs and Hate for Fox News

I'm still amazed that this could be a news headline in the USA.

BishopMVP 06-14-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3337597)
This is.....something.....


I'm only disappointed when I figured out the BLM in question is the Bureau of Land Management. Tying in Black Lives Matter to climate change would've been peak crazy GOP. :lol:

Atocep 06-14-2021 02:02 PM

So the DOJ, under Barr, was subpoenaing communications records of democratic members of congress and some journalists without their knowledge? Am I understanding this correctly?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN2DQ1I3

kingfc22 06-14-2021 04:12 PM

Yes, but "Socialism bad", "colored people bad", etc is more worrisome than a wannabe Dictator


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