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Ksyrup 03-31-2021 04:09 PM


BYU 14 03-31-2021 04:50 PM

and technically a 17 year old would have been in 5th grade in 2014, just saying.

JediKooter 03-31-2021 10:01 PM

He what now?

NobodyHere 04-01-2021 06:11 PM

Gaetz showed nude photos of women he said he'd slept with to lawmakers, sources tell CNN

I really didn't know that this could be a headline.

Atocep 04-02-2021 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3332098)


The Gaetz shit keeps getting worse by the hour it seems. It looks like him and his buddy were using state databases and discarded drivers licenses to facilitate their sugar daddy relationships where he'd meet women in hotel rooms, take ecstacy, and pay them for sex.

His communications director resigned today.

sachmo71 04-02-2021 12:55 PM

Gaetz looks like a punk.

RainMaker 04-02-2021 12:56 PM

The stuff with him and younger girls has been an open secret for awhile. He was flying teenagers out and taking them to public events.

I've mentioned it before but he's a rich kid who Daddy gave everything in his life to. Got him out of a DUI, got him elected, and has covered for him. He's the stereotypical trust fund baby who thinks he is above the law (and probably is).

BYU 14 04-02-2021 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachmo71 (Post 3332156)
Gaetz is a punk.


Fixed it for you, he is the prototype of a rich, privileged brat who has used his "power card" to get away with shit his entire life.

NobodyHere 04-03-2021 01:27 PM

With today's GOP, I don't know if they would demand Gaetz resignation if the allegations are true or if they would encourage him to run as Donald's VP in '24

Atocep 04-03-2021 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3332239)
With today's GOP, I don't know if they would demand Gaetz resignation if the allegations are true or if they would encourage him to run as Donald's VP in '24


There's absolutely no better example of what the GOP has become than this. The party that's been pushing the child trafficking and corruption issue is showing that it clearly had nothing to do with child trafficking and corruption and everything to do with trying to smear political opponents with one of the worst things you can associate a person with.

This has been met with either crickets from GOP supporters, "innocent until proven guilty", or it's more proof the FBI is corrupt and Washington is afraid of Gaetz and other Trump supporters fighting corruption.

For the record, I have no problem with innocent until proven guilty at all. But if that's your stance you should be consistent with it and not calling for Cuomo and other Dems in scandals to resign before things play out.

JPhillips 04-03-2021 02:29 PM

Uhhh...


Ksyrup 04-03-2021 02:32 PM

I mean, you can't just rely on the dopes willingly giving you money on the regular, you know. You have to supplement that with auto-deduct. Besides, it's their fault for not reading the fine print.

molson 04-03-2021 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3332245)
Uhhh...



A lot of non-profits, even just charities, do this - set the default donation to recurring. It's pretty scummy, but but it's kind of an accepted practices in the field. A lot of blogs for people running nonprofits tell you to have recurring as the default to "signal that sustained support is your priority".

If you go to say, Planned Parenthood right now, the default donation is "monthly" rather than "one time"

Ben E Lou 04-03-2021 07:14 PM

I’ve set up dozens of donation pages, and probably reviewed hundreds. Yes, defaulting to a monthly recurring gift is considered by many to be best practice in that arena, but it’s obvious that it’s recurring. (You pick a day of each month that you want your gift to be processed, etc.) I wouldn’t be surprised if Team Trump had it set up so it wasn’t clear. That said, I also wouldn’t be shocked if it was an oversight on the donor’s part. (Seems that if it were carefully hidden, we’d be hearing lots of these stories, no?)

But to be clear, I’ve neither seen nor heard of anyone defaulting to weekly. Apart from payroll deductions (and fewer and fewer folks are paid weekly,) and church collection plates, weekly givers are extremely rare. Monthly is the standard.

molson 04-03-2021 08:08 PM

I missed the default to weekly, ya, that's much worse. Not even a chance to catch it it on a monthly statement if that's how you review things. (I've definitely paid an extra month here and there missing the default checkbox, but, that's just one extra payment.)

CrimsonFox 04-04-2021 08:07 PM


JPhillips 04-04-2021 09:47 PM

At its peak, the Trump campaign accounted for 1-3% of all credit card fraud claims in the US!

21C 04-04-2021 10:29 PM


Atocep 04-04-2021 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 21C (Post 3332353)


Apparently a lot of the "stop the steal" fundraising was being used to pay for the refunds.

pantera 04-04-2021 11:56 PM

Easter greetings from Obama, Trump & Biden. Yes, these are real. :lol:

Our Presidents would like to wish you a Happy Easter.

Ksyrup 04-05-2021 08:33 AM

Assuming things continue down the path they appear to be, hopefully this will become reality.


albionmoonlight 04-05-2021 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3332378)
Assuming things continue down the path they appear to be, hopefully this will become reality.



10 years ago? Sure.

But Trump has taught the lesson to always double down. Then double again. Never quit. Never admit wrongdoing. And it worked.

The GOP won't push Gaetz out.
GOP media will rally behind him.
His voters won't punish him.
He'll just keep playing the victim card.

Shaming people into action only works if those people have shame.

Ksyrup 04-05-2021 08:50 AM

If criminal charges happen, that short-circuits any "business as usual" path. Of course, that pre-supposes he would plead or be found guilty. At worst, it would delay his ascension through the political process, or sidetrack him to media talking head (which is sounds like he is already contemplating).

sachmo71 04-05-2021 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3332380)
10 years ago? Sure.

But Trump has taught the lesson to always double down. Then double again. Never quit. Never admit wrongdoing. And it worked.

The GOP won't push Gaetz out.
GOP media will rally behind him.
His voters won't punish him.
He'll just keep playing the victim card.

Shaming people into action only works if those people have shame.


i fear this is true.

JPhillips 04-05-2021 09:22 AM

I think the difference is that Gaetz has tried to implicate people like Tucker Carlson. Plenty of people will cut Gaetz loose if they think he's trying to use them to save his own ass.

PilotMan 04-05-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3332380)
10 years ago? Sure.

But Trump has taught the lesson to always double down. Then double again. Never quit. Never admit wrongdoing. And it worked.




WAIT!!!! So jbmagic was RIGHT?

pantera 04-05-2021 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3332380)
The GOP won't push Gaetz out.

I understand your general point and mostly agree with it. But it might be different in this case. From what I'm reading, a lot of his GOP peers hate his guts and will be happy to see Gaetz hang.

albionmoonlight 04-06-2021 01:38 PM

So someone from the Trump administration is finally being held accountable for their illegal and unethical conduct.

Who, you might ask?

Some African American woman that you've never heard of: Ex-Trump official penalized for violating Hatch Act | TheHill

Not a big surprise that the Trump admin didn't lift any fingers to help her out there.

PilotMan 04-06-2021 08:45 PM

Reports that Gaetz wanted a preemptive, blanket pardon before trump left.

BYU 14 04-07-2021 04:04 PM

Not exactly a ringing declaration of innocence.

Quote:

In a Washington Examiner op-ed Monday, Gaetz tacitly acknowledged that he “paid for an adult girlfriend’s expenses” on occasion and wrote that “there are exactly zero credible (or even non-credible) accusers willing to come forward by name and state on the public record that I behaved improperly toward them.”

Thomkal 04-07-2021 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3332728)
Not exactly a ringing declaration of innocence.


Until and if and when he's arrested and they are all named.

Ksyrup 04-08-2021 07:15 AM

Is there some reason one would need to "tacitly acknowledge" being in a normal, legal relationship?

I'll come right out and say it - when I was 22, I paid for my 22-year old GF's dinner on occasion, and we even went on a day cruise to the Bahamas that I paid for. I'll even tell you her name if you really want!

I. J. Reilly 04-08-2021 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3332792)
Is there some reason one would need to "tacitly acknowledge" being in a normal, legal relationship?

I'll come right out and say it - when I was 22, I paid for my 22-year old GF's dinner on occasion, and we even went on a day cruise to the Bahamas that I paid for. I'll even tell you her name if you really want!


I'd be lying if I didn't admit that there are few girls from my past that I am only tacitly willing to acknowledge.

Ksyrup 04-08-2021 08:59 AM

If you were facing federal charges for interstate sex trafficking, you'd probably be falling over yourself to introduce everyone to 24 year old Cinnamon.

BYU 14 04-08-2021 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly (Post 3332802)
I'd be lying if I didn't admit that there are few girls from my past that I am only tacitly willing to acknowledge.


Ditto, but I would venture a guess that they were all legal age.

Lathum 04-08-2021 10:20 AM

Wonder when we will hear the “she told me she was 18 “ excuse.

GrantDawg 04-08-2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3332815)
Wonder when we will hear the “she told me she was 18 “ excuse.

"She told me she was 18. Look at how she was dressed. She was already drunk when I picked her up. She was asking for it."

pantera 04-08-2021 02:59 PM

So a few days ago Trump told everyone to boycott Coca-Cola re: the voting rights issue.

Guess what was just photographed on his desk. :lol:

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1379175013362860042

Danny 04-08-2021 11:42 PM

My town major is disgusting now too. Article released this morning https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects...t-allegations/

BYU 14 04-09-2021 08:56 AM

It's almost like Gaetz was the inspiration for the guy that answers the door at 1:01 The Equalizer 2 Apartment Fight Scene - YouTube

Where is Denzel when you need him

JPhillips 04-09-2021 09:58 AM

Tucker Carlson specifically endorsed white replacement theory last night. Charlottesville is becoming mainstream GOP ideology.

cuervo72 04-09-2021 11:11 AM

I mean, I'm gonna die sometime within the next 50 years (far-end estimate). Someone's gonna replace me on this planet. I don't know that I'll really care who, at that point.

NobodyHere 04-09-2021 08:02 PM

FINALLY! Fox News is being investigated!

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell Investigates Fox News for Not Having Him as Guest

JPhillips 04-12-2021 04:52 PM



Michael Gerson explains the problem with Tucker Carlson's replacement theory rant.

JPhillips 04-13-2021 08:07 AM

dola

lol John Boehner admits he voted for Trump in 2020.

Ksyrup 04-13-2021 08:18 AM

And the little I heard of an interview yesterday, he also sidestepped whether he would support/vote for him in 2024.

BYU 14 04-13-2021 08:58 AM

How has his act not worn thin on some of these people yet? Everyone knows who and what he is and still they kiss the ring. The only hope is that the general public who support him eventually move on so the GOP can stop pandering to him. Hopefully 3= years to the next election is enough for that to occur.

Bee 04-13-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3333294)
How has his act not worn thin on some of these people yet? Everyone knows who and what he is and still they kiss the ring. The only hope is that the general public who support him eventually move on so the GOP can stop pandering to him. Hopefully 3= years to the next election is enough for that to occur.



Based on the age bracket of his supporters you got to figure a significant number will move on naturally.

Lathum 04-13-2021 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee (Post 3333300)
Based on the age bracket of his supporters you got to figure a significant number will move on naturally.


Plus I would imagine be replaced by people turning old enough to vote who are dems. There is also the exodus of people leaving blue areas to live in less expensive red areas. the republican party is dead, it just doesn't know it.

BYU 14 04-13-2021 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3333305)
Plus I would imagine be replaced by people turning old enough to vote who are dems. There is also the exodus of people leaving blue areas to live in less expensive red areas. the republican party is dead, it just doesn't know it.


This is the hope i have, so that we get a shift to more moderate and more importantly sane people in the party.

Kodos 04-13-2021 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3333305)
Plus I would imagine be replaced by people turning old enough to vote who are dems. There is also the exodus of people leaving blue areas to live in less expensive red areas. the republican party is dead, it just doesn't know it.


I wouldn't get too confident about that.

NobodyHere 04-13-2021 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3333333)
I wouldn't get too confident about that.


Ditto.

I was told the Democrats were dead in 2002 and Republicans were dead and buried in 2008. A few years can make a lot of difference.

NobodyHere 04-14-2021 11:57 AM

During the capitol riots, the police weren't protecting congress from the mob. They were protecting the mob from Nancy Pelosi.

JPhillips 04-14-2021 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3333437)
During the capitol riots, the police weren't protecting congress from the mob. They were protecting the mob from Nancy Pelosi.


She is so bad at messaging.

GrantDawg 04-14-2021 06:01 PM

You can't stop her. You can only hope to contain her.

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RainMaker 04-14-2021 06:38 PM

Stick to insider trading Nancy.

GrantDawg 04-14-2021 06:58 PM

You better watch out, Rainmaker. She might bust her special move on you.

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JPhillips 04-15-2021 05:35 PM

Treasury today connected the dots that were always expected. Manafort gave campaign info to Kilimnick who then passed it on to the Russian government.

Qwikshot 04-15-2021 06:34 PM

You know what I like?

That orange shit gibbon has been off the social feed and the boredom and monotony of mundane life as seeped back in. I can breathe easy and go to work, or relax at home and not get a notification on the phone from his crazy rant or his Trumpanzee followers gloat skreeing about something.

And I love it.

pantera 04-16-2021 08:26 AM

I was addicted - not in a good way - to his rantings. I'd have breakfast & click on Twitter to see what the lunatic was lying about that morning. My blood pressure would skyrocket.

Biden is not my perfect choice. I'll disagree & be disappointed by some of what he does. But it's nice to at least have someone in the White House who is sane and actually cares about other humans.

BYU 14 04-22-2021 09:49 PM

Hawley staying on course as heir to the pointed hood, being the only Senator to vote no against the Anti-Asian hate crime bill.

albionmoonlight 04-23-2021 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera (Post 3333739)
I was addicted - not in a good way - to his rantings. I'd have breakfast & click on Twitter to see what the lunatic was lying about that morning. My blood pressure would skyrocket.


Today is the one year anniversary of the former President publicly suggesting that we should all shoot up bleach to help fight COVID. Which has distressingly got him back on my social media timelines.

Things were so bad. Much like you, I didn't realize how toxic my mental life was with him in it until he was out of it.

Do you know I have no idea what he's up to right now? Last thing I heard about him was that he refused a meeting with Matt Gatez. That was, what? Two weeks ago?

It's so much better now.

JPhillips 04-23-2021 07:47 AM

Typical leftist spin.

Today is the one year anniversary of Trump announcing the cure to COVID that the MSM hid and lied about so that the communists could control us by closing bars and restaurants forever.

Thomkal 04-23-2021 11:03 AM

Sadly some people still think that. :(

pantera 04-23-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3334619)
Today is the one year anniversary of the former President publicly suggesting that we should all shoot up bleach to help fight COVID. Which has distressingly got him back on my social media timelines.

Things were so bad. Much like you, I didn't realize how toxic my mental life was with him in it until he was out of it.

Do you know I have no idea what he's up to right now? Last thing I heard about him was that he refused a meeting with Matt Gatez. That was, what? Two weeks ago?

It's so much better now.

"Your life's not better. That's FAKE NEWS. Because you voted for Sleepy Joe all of you are going to die someday. He injected you all with the China Virus, all of the experts said so. If you had voted for me, you would have lived forever. I had plans -- beautiful plans, the best plans ever, believe me, everybody knows it -- to give everyone immortality. But Sleepy Joe wants you to die. It's SAD."

BYU 14 04-23-2021 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera (Post 3334630)
"Your life's not better. That's FAKE NEWS. Because you voted for Sleepy Joe all of you are going to die someday. He injected you all with the China Virus, all of the experts said so. If you had voted for me, you would have lived forever. I had plans -- beautiful plans, the best plans ever, believe me, everybody knows it -- to give everyone immortality. But Sleepy Joe wants you to die. It's SAD."


LOL, if I close my eyes and have someone read this to me it's like 2020 all over again.

albionmoonlight 04-23-2021 12:20 PM

Since this asshole is renting space in my brain again today, I'll say one more thing

It still amazes me that a racist germaphobe did so little to stop a virus from China. And actually took steps to make it worse (that are still reverberating today).

I mean, if anything would have been in his wheelhouse, it should have been this.

BYU 14 04-23-2021 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3334641)
Since this asshole is renting space in my brain again today, I'll say one more thing

It still amazes me that a racist germaphobe did so little to stop a virus from China. And actually took steps to make it worse (that are still reverberating today).

I mean, if anything would have been in his wheelhouse, it should have been this.


If there is a silver lining, had he handled the virus appropriately, he likely would have won re-election, so there is that.

pantera 04-23-2021 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3334641)
Since this asshole is renting space in my brain again today, I'll say one more thing

It still amazes me that a racist germaphobe did so little to stop a virus from China. And actually took steps to make it worse (that are still reverberating today).

I mean, if anything would have been in his wheelhouse, it should have been this.

Trump has many flaws, but the one that fits your question is that he is unable to give anyone else credit. He has to get full credit for everything.

For him to say that some scientists were correct early in 2020 about Covid-19 would -- in his mind -- suggest to people that he was not the smartest person in the room. That he was weak & flawed. And his brain simply could not let that happen. He had to be the genius, the perfect leader, no one else could be allowed near his pedestal. And off to fantasyland we went...

Qwikshot 04-23-2021 01:49 PM

He's going to run again, be prepared.

spleen1015 04-23-2021 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot (Post 3334656)
He's going to run again, be prepared.


Hopefully he doesn't live long enough.

Ryche 04-23-2021 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3334682)
Hopefully he doesn't live long enough.


His brains will be mush by then, we've already seen considerable decline just between his 2016 and 2020 runs. (I don't foresee Biden being the candidate in 2024 either)

GrantDawg 04-24-2021 08:28 AM

A conviction would be the only thing to stop him. I also bet Trump lives close to 90, but he will have at least one bad health scare before then.

pantera 04-24-2021 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3334682)
Hopefully he doesn't live long enough.

:nono: Shame! I believe in love over hate.

I've forgiven him. I want to be friends. That's why every day I ship an insulated pack to Trump with two triple bacon cheeseburgers with extra cheese and extra bacon, a Philly cheesesteak sub, and a pastrami sandwich. Oh, and a double order of fries. ;) :popcorn:

NobodyHere 04-24-2021 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera (Post 3334696)
:nono: Shame! I believe in love over hate.

I've forgiven him. I want to be friends. That's why every day I ship an insulated pack to Trump with two triple bacon cheeseburgers with extra cheese and extra bacon, a Philly cheesesteak sub, and a pastrami sandwich. Oh, and a double order of fries. ;) :popcorn:


Can I be your friend too?

I would also like biscuits and gravy with my shipments. Also some milkshakes to wash it all down with would be nice.

PilotMan 04-24-2021 10:48 AM

Since we were talking about dumbass anniversaries so we don't forget. On this day in 2017:

In a potential violation of federal law, Donald Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn failed to disclose a $33,000 payment from Russia on his financial statement for his federal security clearance. [SS4] The payment, originally from 2015, came for consulting work Flynn had done for Russia Today—a Russian television network with direct ties to the Kremlin.

and

In the six months since Donald Trump’s election, the Anti-Defamation League reported anti-Semitic attacks had risen 86 percent.
These attacks included grave desecrations, bomb threats, and assaults.

and

Donald Trump ordered White House aides to draft a tax plan that slashed the corporate tax rate to 15 percent. Trump told his aides cutting taxes for businesses should take priority over decreasing the federal deficit.

pantera 04-24-2021 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3334698)
Can I be your friend too?

I would also like biscuits and gravy with my shipments. Also some milkshakes to wash it all down with would be nice.

I like you. I want you to live a long time. You get a kale salad with some sunflower seeds and flaxseed sprinkled on top. Hold the dressing. :thumbsup:

GrantDawg 04-26-2021 03:21 PM

This is going to end well. New questions surround Maricopa County election audit | Arizona's Election Authority | azfamily.com
The audit is going on right now, with only this GOP hired company with access to the ballots. The only new outlet allowed in the building is OAN that is already reporting the audit has proven widespread voter fraud.

BYU 14 04-26-2021 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3334860)
This is going to end well. New questions surround Maricopa County election audit | Arizona's Election Authority | azfamily.com
The audit is going on right now, with only this GOP hired company with access to the ballots. The only new outlet allowed in the building is OAN that is already reporting the audit has proven widespread voter fraud.


This is such a shit show, hire a company that peddled conspiracy theories, prohibit everyone but OAN and the whack job Trump puppets in the GOP here and watch all hell break loose.

If this continues to skew like it is starting they are going to have blood on their hands from the inevitable acts of violence that follows. Arizona has a ton of good moderate people. left and right, but the far right here is not playing with a full deck and hasn't been for years.

Lathum 04-26-2021 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3334860)
This is going to end well. New questions surround Maricopa County election audit | Arizona's Election Authority | azfamily.com
The audit is going on right now, with only this GOP hired company with access to the ballots. The only new outlet allowed in the building is OAN that is already reporting the audit has proven widespread voter fraud.


The article also doesn't mention this company has zero experience handling these type of audits, and the founder has been promoting the big lie from the start. totally above board and non biased.

Ksyrup 04-27-2021 06:43 AM

This is a good, deep post-mortem on the counties flipped in the election which proves (as if we needed proof) that Trump and his people were just making crap up about a rigged election. But this may be useful for those of us with family and friends still clinging to the lies.


Lathum 04-27-2021 07:23 AM

There is no reasoning with family and friends clinging to the big lie...

Ksyrup 04-27-2021 07:50 AM

That is true. Speaking of which, my parents will be visiting at the end of May for the first time since last July. I'm hoping nothing major happens that brings politics to the forefront and we can peacefully get through a week visit. Then comes my wife's parents, who aren't quite as bad but are still on the Trump Train. May/June should be an interesting/precarious time for me.

RainMaker 04-27-2021 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3334903)
There is no reasoning with family and friends clinging to the big lie...


It's a cult.

NobodyHere 04-28-2021 12:44 PM

AP sources: Feds search Rudy Giuliani’s NYC home, office

One can only imagine what's dripping down Guliani's face right now.

Lathum 04-28-2021 12:45 PM

Shits getting real

https://twitter.com/search?q=Rudy&sr...ertical=trends

albionmoonlight 04-28-2021 01:04 PM

Rudy could have retired from public life a few years after 9/11. He'd spend his days golfing and sipping tea on the porch. He'd ride in the back of a convertible on the occasional 4th of July parade and wave to people. When he needed money, he'd take six figures to give a recycled speech on "American Values" at the Goldman Sachs leadership retreat or whatever.

His approval would be >90% and we'd all agree that Rudy not running for President was the biggest missed opportunity in our lifetimes and that he clearly would have been the best President of all time.

Instead, he chose this path.

cartman 04-28-2021 01:05 PM

so the warrant was served between 9 and 11am?

NobodyHere 04-28-2021 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3335067)
Rudy could have retired from public life a few years after 9/11. He'd spend his days golfing and sipping tea on the porch. He'd ride in the back of a convertible on the occasional 4th of July parade and wave to people. When he needed money, he'd take six figures to give a recycled speech on "American Values" at the Goldman Sachs leadership retreat or whatever.

His approval would be >90% and we'd all agree that Rudy not running for President was the biggest missed opportunity in our lifetimes and that he clearly would have been the best President of all time.

Instead, he chose this path.


He did try to run for President. Polled quite well until he decided to ignore the early primary states.

Lathum 04-28-2021 01:52 PM

So for the attorneys here, will anything related to Trump that they find be protected under attorney-client privilege, or are there exceptions for certain crimes such as treason?

albionmoonlight 04-28-2021 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3335077)
So for the attorneys here, will anything related to Trump that they find be protected under attorney-client privilege, or are there exceptions for certain crimes such as treason?


In general, if police are executing a search warrant, they are allowed to seize/notice anything that is in "plain view" while they are validly doing the search. So, if they have a warrant to search my house for drugs, and they find illegal guns in the closet, they can use those against me.

But, when an attorney's office/home is searched, they are very careful about sequestering materials that are attorney/client and outside of the scope of the warrant.

They have something called the Taint Team (schoolboy giggle) that is completely unrelated to the investigation and will remove the materials that are attorney/client privileged before turning it over to the case prosecutors.

Ksyrup 04-28-2021 05:14 PM


CrimsonFox 04-28-2021 05:18 PM

and yet I predict none of these people go to jail or have anything happen to them.

on that note, are there any civil suits pending against trump and the band?
that's really the only way to hurt these guys

PilotMan 04-30-2021 06:48 AM

The Daily Beast just got the drop on some (I would guess) damaging comms regarding Gaetz, pardons and Roger Stone.

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

Kodos 04-30-2021 08:11 AM

They're good people.

PilotMan 04-30-2021 09:33 AM

Completely on the up and up...always.

sterlingice 04-30-2021 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3335073)
He did try to run for President. Polled quite well until he decided to ignore the early primary states.


He could have even ended it at "failed Presidential run" and he would have been lionized

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sterlingice 04-30-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3335358)
The Daily Beast just got the drop on some (I would guess) damaging comms regarding Gaetz, pardons and Roger Stone.

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Venmo, bitcoin? Who says that politicians are behind the time on technology?

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BYU 14 04-30-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3335374)
Venmo, bitcoin? Who says that politicians are behind the time on technology?

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The benefits of "dating" 17 year old girls apparently

RainMaker 04-30-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3335358)
The Daily Beast just got the drop on some (I would guess) damaging comms regarding Gaetz, pardons and Roger Stone.

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The party will just shift to pro-pedophilia.


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