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Noop 04-30-2008 05:25 PM

EA reminds me of a politician a whole lot of talking and promises but never delivers. And me I am a mindless numb nut whose love for college football outweighs the flaws that will envitably be in the game.

Groundhog 04-30-2008 06:26 PM

They are looking to implement stat tracking online for the multiplayer dynasties, which would be pretty cool.

Kodos 05-15-2008 02:57 PM

Sadly, I am slowly being sucked in to being interested in this game. Online dynasty could be a blast with the right group of guys...

sabotai 05-15-2008 03:04 PM

One question I have, since I have not been following this, is have they done anything to improve the RFTH mode? After trying a dynasty, I gave up on it but I still put many hours into the RFTH mode (the same mode in Madden was total crap so I'm not even looking to Madden this year).

Eaglesfan27 05-15-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1728877)
One question I have, since I have not been following this, is have they done anything to improve the RFTH mode? After trying a dynasty, I gave up on it but I still put many hours into the RFTH mode (the same mode in Madden was total crap so I'm not even looking to Madden this year).


It has gotten very little press/hype, so my guess is that it has undergone very little change unless they are saving it for the final media blitz.

kingnebwsu 05-15-2008 06:57 PM

I did like the RFTH mode playing as a running back...and watching my highly-rated QB throw 3 to 6 INT's per game. It was amazing...

Groundhog 05-15-2008 07:00 PM

This will be the first year I'm actually able to play NCAA, so I'm probably more excited about it than I should be.

Anthony 05-16-2008 10:45 AM

whats the # of teams allowed in an online MP league? that might be a lot of fun.

Anthony 05-16-2008 10:46 AM

shotgun Miami Canes.

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic (Post 1729335)
whats the # of teams allowed in an online MP league? that might be a lot of fun.


12.

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 10:53 AM

Dola -

If we do get a FOF league going and we use power teams, I want USC ;)

Logan 05-16-2008 11:05 AM

Yes, let's use power teams. I'll take Rutgers :).

Blade6119 05-16-2008 11:10 AM

I would think playing within one conference would be much more fun, instead of random teams across the nation...just my 2 cents

Kodos 05-16-2008 11:23 AM

I was thinking using 80-rated or below teams would be fun. More of a challenge to get a championship too.

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1729353)
I was thinking using 80-rated or below teams would be fun. More of a challenge to get a championship too.


Personally, I think that would be the most fun as well. Either that, or randomly selecting teams within one of the lesser conferences so we all play each either.

DeToxRox 05-16-2008 11:47 AM

Someone said before we should do the MAC. 13 schools, all low level prestige. I say we do it.

DeToxRox 05-16-2008 11:47 AM

Dola, if we do the Mac, I am shotgunning Central Michigan. I need my Dan "I gotta" LeFevour and the only cure are more touchdowns.

Kodos 05-16-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1729348)
I would think playing within one conference would be much more fun, instead of random teams across the nation...just my 2 cents



One thing to consider is that it is harder to get your human opponents to play than it is to play against the computer. So having teams spread across conferences might be good in that sense, because there would be less schedule coordination involved. But then the whole point of going online is to play against others... :) I guess at least recruiting would be cool in this scenario.


This post was worth about .012 cents. :cool:

Blade6119 05-16-2008 12:41 PM

My impression from the article, which i may be quite mistaken in, is that we cant just randomly log in and do our weekly activities. I got the impression we were all doing our weekly activities at the same time, so getting people on at the same times to play games would already be taken care of by the requirements of league. Am i totally off-base here?

Blade6119 05-16-2008 12:42 PM

Dola, that was worth at least .013 cents, as it was far more insightful then your last post ;)

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1729378)
One thing to consider is that it is harder to get your human opponents to play than it is to play against the computer. So having teams spread across conferences might be good in that sense, because there would be less schedule coordination involved. But then the whole point of going online is to play against others... :) I guess at least recruiting would be cool in this scenario.


This post was worth about .012 cents. :cool:


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Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1729401)
My impression from the article, which i may be quite mistaken in, is that we cant just randomly log in and do our weekly activities. I got the impression we were all doing our weekly activities at the same time, so getting people on at the same times to play games would already be taken care of by the requirements of league. Am i totally off-base here?



The recruiting would be awesome in your scenario, Kodos. Plus, we could meet in Bowl games which would be theoretically less cumbersome to schedule.

I've read 3 or 4 different articles about online recruiting, and I believe that the dynasty is housed on a server and can be accessed at anytime and doesn't have to be when everyone is on at the same time. I could be wrong about that, but I don't think so. If I (and Kodos) are right, scheduling would be the major benefit to being in different conferences..

Anthony 05-16-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1729367)
Personally, I think that would be the most fun as well. Either that, or randomly selecting teams within one of the lesser conferences so we all play each either.


i would like to play lower-tier colleges, i was just claiming the Canes in the event that this was gonna be a free for all.

i have no prob playing in the same conference, but are there any conferences that have 12 teams? or would maybe 2 conferences, 6 teams each be better? full stat tracking is awesome.

this may not get off the ground, i'm just putting 2 cents in. sounds like it'd be fun.

cartman 05-16-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic (Post 1729439)
i have no prob playing in the same conference, but are there any conferences that have 12 teams? or would maybe 2 conferences, 6 teams each be better? full stat tracking is awesome.


I failed calculus, but I'm pretty sure the Big 12 has 12 teams. But I can see where that could be misleading, since the Big 10 doesn't have 10 teams. :)

Logan 05-16-2008 02:10 PM

It would be pretty sweet if they let you completely change the conference structure for online dynasties.

DeToxRox 05-16-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1729443)
I failed calculus, but I'm pretty sure the Big 12 has 12 teams. But I can see where that could be misleading, since the Big 10 doesn't have 10 teams. :)


Yes, the Big 10 only has Michigan and Ohio State :)

Passacaglia 05-16-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1729450)
Yes, the Big 10 only has Michigan and Ohio State :)


Who the hell let Ohio State into the Big Ten?

Anthony 05-16-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1729368)
Someone said before we should do the MAC. 13 schools, all low level prestige. I say we do it.


i'm down with that. make sure we leave a slot open for Pumpy.

wade moore 05-16-2008 02:26 PM

I'm so up for this.

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic (Post 1729439)

this may not get off the ground, i'm just putting 2 cents in. sounds like it'd be fun.


I hear you. I'm in agreement. If we even get so far as organizing this and it looks like it will take off, this game goes from a rent-and-see to a day 1 buy.. as it is, I like what I've seen from the latest gameplay videos. It looks like in the latest build, they've slowed down the hyper speed that was being shown in the earlier builds and I'm seeing linebackers and DB's misplay balls and bat down balls that would have almost certainly been interceptions last year.

BrianD 05-16-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1729450)
Yes, the Big 10 only has Michigan and Ohio State :)


...and Wisconsin. :)

Kodos 05-16-2008 02:36 PM

I'd certainly be up for joining. Especially if we went with mid-tier teams.

Kodos 05-16-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1729467)
...and Wisconsin. :)



... and INDIANA.

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 02:39 PM

Like I said, I'm all for mid-tier or low prestige teams. I do think that it should be a random assignment of teams or better yet a draft system rather than who calls teams first, but that is just my opinion ;)

Kodos 05-16-2008 03:15 PM

A draft system sounds good. At least that way, people could try to grab teams that they actually have some sort of attachment to.

INDalltheway 05-16-2008 03:37 PM

The MAC sounds like a really fun conference to play with. I am definitely interested in getting in a league with some FOFCers.

wade moore 05-16-2008 03:52 PM

Is there any word on whether it will have FCS/I-AA?

Kodos 05-16-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1729515)
Is there any word on whether it will have FCS/I-AA?


Why would it? Nobody cares about those teams! :D

Eaglesfan27 05-16-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1729515)
Is there any word on whether it will have FCS/I-AA?


It won't. It will have all 120 Division I teams or whatever they are being called (which is escaping me at the moment.)

Logan 05-16-2008 06:40 PM

I could've sworn I read somewhere that some AA teams will be included (I remember seeing something about App State).

Sun Tzu 05-16-2008 07:48 PM

About 2 weeks ago I started a thread trying to get a league started for this, so I'll claim it as my idea. Which also means I get first dibs on a team.

Akron Zips = mine

Anyways, count me in for sure. To answer Blades question about recruiting, you can recruit anytime you like, there doesn't have to be "set" times for recruiting for the league. If you just so happen to be recruiting at the same time as say, Hell Atlantic, you can actually hear him speaking in strange tongues. There is 1 commissioner, who sets the ground rules and enforces them online. Say for example you have a game against the CPU and you keep quiting and restarting it until you win. The Commish will see that you started a game several times, and can change the outcome of the game as he so pleases. There's a decent amount of other stuff too...I'll try to find a link and dola it up.

Anthony 05-16-2008 10:14 PM

when i play online i always try to get the other guy to play as a mid-tier school. in a perfect world everyone i played against would be interested in playing really crappy teams - that's where this game really shines. when you're both crappy teams, what little standout players you have really dominate. if you're USC or like Michigan, every player it seems is ridiculous and it doesn't force you to be a good player since you can fall back on the talent of your team. glad to see pretty much everyone here is on the same page about mid-tier/bottom feeder schools.

Blade6119 05-17-2008 07:08 AM

I think if we do star a league, it should def. be random. Or a draft, with randomized draft order. Something to keep fair and even...

Ironhead 05-17-2008 08:08 AM

Even though I enjoyed running my dynasty last year I just can't seem to get interested in NCAA yet. I will likely buy it and enjoy it but I know there will be at least 1 fundamental aspect of the game that will leave me saying, "If only they ______ then this would be an amazing game."

thesloppy 05-17-2008 08:53 AM

STOOPID Q: Do you think NCAA seems to retain a better reputation than Madden (at least in my eyes) to some degree because it's presenting college football, rather than pro? Since the college game is more prone to turnovers, mismatches, sloppy play, and since there are more players and teams than one person could accurately track, does that result in gamers being a little more forgiving towards the NCAA franchise, because of it's license?

Eaglesfan27 05-17-2008 09:38 AM

I don't think that is stupid at all. I think that is true. People tend to be more forgiving of NCAA because statistical accuracy is more difficult to pin down in college football. That being said, I think most of us on this board were fed up with the turnover issue last year and I won't be buying this on day 1, unless a FOFC league looks like it is going to happen or my best friend buys it.

I figure at worst, if he buys it and the turnover issue is still present, we can use it to try a sim only online league which could be fun as well.

Grammaticus 05-17-2008 10:52 AM

Anybody interested in an SEC league?

Mid tier sounds pretty decent too. If you can build your own conference, it would definately make for a great setup. Make it so you can only choose D rated teams, or something like that.

Galaxy 05-17-2008 10:55 AM

I'm in.

Galaxy 05-17-2008 10:58 AM

Will you be able to move up online (from building that crap team in the MAC into a conference championship contender to a crappy team in the ACC or Pac 10)?

DeToxRox 05-17-2008 06:49 PM

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1..._051508_1.html

A full drive

Phototropic 05-18-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1729727)
I don't think that is stupid at all. I think that is true. People tend to be more forgiving of NCAA because statistical accuracy is more difficult to pin down in college football. That being said, I think most of us on this board were fed up with the turnover issue last year and I won't be buying this on day 1, unless a FOFC league looks like it is going to happen or my best friend buys it.

I figure at worst, if he buys it and the turnover issue is still present, we can use it to try a sim only online league which could be fun as well.

The turnover issue is a big deal for me as well. That was really the only big problem I had with last year's game.

With regards to Madden, the interesting thing is that NCAA's stat engine has actually been much more accurate than Madden's over the last couple of years.


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