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I already got it and I checked the no Bill Gates Microchip checkbox so I should be good to go. |
Schumer carries around his own podium?
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he'd roundhouse kick BAZAAAMMMMM!!! KLOK!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Q abduction prevention |
if chuck norris replaced chuck schumer, congress would be more exciting.
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so republicans in arizona are voting to censure McCain's wife :(
Arizona's Maricopa County GOP censures ex-Sen. Jeff Flake, plans vote to also censure Cindy McCain |
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I would love this movie. |
Ohio activates National Guard
FINALLY!!!! Just yesterday or the other day he said he wasn't going to do that! omg so sick of dewine now but so glad this is happening. Columbus is a mess with shitheads |
I really hope Biden plays it safe with inauguration because the police are in cahoots.
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At what point does this jump from being disciplined/removed from Congress to life in prison or execution? I know the word treason gets thrown around too much, but if this is at all accurate, what else can you call it? |
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Just going out on a limb here and guessing since he is so active in Arizona that it is Lesko, Biggs and Gosar and I would love to see everyone of those fuckers put in prison for a looooong time. |
I’d nominate Gohmert and Brooks. Gosar seems like another good bet. There is also some Ted Cruz smoke.
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That crazy one from Colorado was live tweeting locations.
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only 3? |
Didn't we know that already? I thought him working with Biggs, Gosar, and Brooks was public even before the rally.
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Yes, Jphillips. This not really news except he says it on video.
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I think the news today, which nobody seems to have noticed, was Brooks saying a WH staffer was coordinating speakers for the rally. |
Seems like recon missions were done.
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That' such a damning accusation that I want to get some corroboration, but it definitely needs to be investigated and exposed if true.
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That's my feeling as well. May be true, but proof is needed. |
Even as each part of damning new evidence drops it's STILL impossible to tell if there was some real, nefarious & sophisticated coordination with violent internet going on in the background, or if this was just some extended circus clown show that everybody involved with naively thought would get to some critical level but never turn violent.
The lack of police seems to be the crucial element....like if there had been a 'proper' amount of police force there I think this would've looked a lot more like a Portland protest, and the folks never would've made it inside the building, which is the optics that I think all the involved politicians were imagining. It seems like the police response was weakened from several different points and it will be ironic if it was done without any kind of coordination and effectively 'defunding the police' ends up being the reason everything went to shit. |
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One would think that they should know who every person that goes through that building is. |
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"One would think" a lot of things that are contrary to what has actually been happening lately. |
"If we are going to take this building, we need to work together."
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Some thing are coincidence, but some of these things are not going to be.
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Can we fast forward this movie? I'll go ahead and spoil the next act. A group of people are now going to scream and yell about the the people making the accusations are overreacting/trying to score political point/not being responsible and calming things etc. etc. Now can we get to the part about the reveal of whether they are right or wrong?
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I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the insurrectionists went through tours or saw their representatives who showed them around. But that is a far cry from the representatives giving "recon" tours, knowing and abetting the storming the next day. Sounds like another hyperbolic twitter spam and fake news to me. But let's see what the formal investigation comes up. |
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FWIW, the video actually shows how uncoordinated and unplanned it was. I'll admit to FF some sections, so feel free to provide a time stamp on the incriminating statement(s). I don't doubt there were a few true believers that planned something when they attended the rally (pipe bombs) but com'on, this specific video didn't show a carefully planned, coordinated terrorist action. |
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What is without a doubt is that there were people in that crowd that had bigger plans, and this could have been much worse. |
FWIW I know I shouldn't like this picture because of what happened and it representing a very dark day in our country ... but I do like this picture.
Article says charged with "theft of property". If this guy did go beyond trespass and stealing the lectern, throw the book at him for sure. But I do like this pic on face value. ![]() |
To me it represents how stupid and fucked our country is. The guys wife is a doctor, he has kids, and threw their life away so he could act like an ass. His family will carry the stench of this their whole lives.
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I like his lawyer's quote: "I'm not a magician"
Adam Johnson released: Man seen carrying Pelosi's lectern in riot | wtsp.com There's something amusing about that picture - these are the goofs that invaded the capital. Many were there for the "Team Trump Super Bowl" - which is mostly more stupid and weirdly celebratory than dangerous. But it also belies the much darker intentions of a number of people in that crowd, downplays the deaths, and the seriousness that we were really close to a successful coup. It's comforting that our institutions held, but it was disappointing that we have that many dumb and delusional people and it needs to not be forgotten how close we were to overthrowing an election and that express train to fascism. And it really was a hair's breadth. If, for instance, if Goodman isn't there and doesn't put himself in serious personal harm's way, duping a bunch of racist protesters to follow him instead of go towards the unsecured Senate chambers, our Democracy would have fallen. That's exactly how close it was. SI |
Can't say I'm a fan of pictures of looters, whether it's BLM or these assholes.
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Yes Ken Buck was on TV and said both sides are to blame form the vitriol in this country especially what drove the capital attack.SMH. |
Bullhorn lady is going to spend some time in prison.
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I mentioned previously my wife's BIL is a big MAGA fan, one of those that annoys you with all the FB stuff.
I'm not a FB user so asked my wife at dinner (again) last night if BIL had anything interesting to say. She said nope, still just posting new doggie pics. I don't know really how "deep" of a Trump believer he is. I do wish he would post something "reflective" vs the endless spamming prior to a week ago. Seems cowardly to withdraw from posting his FB opinions right now. My SIL is also a Trump supporter. Not near as annoying as BIL and doesn't post anything political on FB. Need to get her thoughts next time we are together in person. |
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I agree Jphlips. Also the guy trying to give a layout of the building and was direct them to a certain room. I am not saying the whole crowd had a plan, but there were people in that crowd the definitely did. The fact they attacked certain unmarked offices (the parliamentarian, the majority whip) that few people could find without help suggests that.
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It's like that scene in Crocodile Dundee II where Mick and a handful of guys have a plan to storm the drug dealers' fortress and get Sue back, and there also happen to be hundreds of party people just along for the joyride. Both things can be happening at the same time, and the huge crowd is great for a distraction.
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A political distraction, too, in the aftermath SI |
I was driving back from my uncle's yesterday, and there is a guy that has had his 12-14 TRUMP/PENCE 2020 campaign signs hanging up on his gate and fence this whole time. Yesterday I noticed that he's placed a piece of tape across PENCE on each and every one of the weathered signs.
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Tom Cole already lying in opening statement saying Trump has conceded. He most certainly has not.
It is also clear they are taking the "unity" path. Bullshit |
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Yeah fuck these traitorous assholes. This fucking country deserves whatever we get in the future. |
Sorry we don't negotiate with terrorists...
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We just had a test of the emergency alert system. Q people must be losing their shit.
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I got a text from my most far right brother that he heard some military rumors that they were going to shut down the country, and wondered if any one else had (no one had), and no one is talking about it on Twitter either. So nerves are on high on the right with the impeachment happening today |
There are rumors that the Senate actually might start the trial on Friday. I don't think that would happen unless they have the votes to convict. I am willing to admit I was totally wrong if they do. If they can convict, then impeachment is absolutely the right thing to do. I am still not going to believe it until I hear McConnell say Trump must go with his thin turtle lips.
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What does "shut down the country" even mean?
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Having Gym Jordan speak for the right is a brilliant move. Will get most people to turn their TVs off.
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Can somebody just punch him in the face on live TV. I'd pay good money for that.
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Sweet. He doesn't understand the 1st amendment
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As it has been from the beginning of Trump, the GOP stays the path:
Deny, Deflect & Ignore |
What the hell was Jordans argument? Cancel culture despite them spending the last 2 months trying to cancel the election?
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Hannity's post-election ratings collapse
The wheels on the bus go beep beep beep Then fall off of the busssssss |
Apparently the GOP doesn't understand the word accountability.
Shocking from the Law and Order crowd. Shocking :rolleyes: |
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Did they all go to OAN though? |
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Airbnb Canceling All D.C. Area Reservations For Inauguration Week : Insurrection At The Capitol: Live Updates : NPR
They might as well have the inauguration indoors. The security perimeter might end up being west to Ohio, east to the Atlantic, south to South Carolina and north to Massachusetts. |
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Should not have watched a Matt Gaetz speech right after lunch.
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Normally, I'd watch this sort of procedural thing as I feel it's important to see the case. But I'm pretty sure I saw what I needed to last Wednesday so I'm going to pass today
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I turned it off. It's clear the House GOP is just going to ignore an insurrection and sacking of the US Capitol. |
What I gather from the house GOP is that, a coup or insurrection can just be swept under the rug as long as it happens close to the inauguration of a new president.
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No, they know what it means. Like when they say a young black kid should know better than to play with toy guns. Or how a young black man should know better than to go for a run. Or how a young black man shouldn't ask the cops for help while in the middle of a psychotic break. {Black} people have to be accountable for their actions. |
The Trump administration is trying to get the genie back in the bottle. A written statement "from Trump" was released trying to get ahead of any potential violence this week and Rhona McDaniel sent an email to Trump supporters trying to out a stop to to it as well.
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I heard that theme, along with false equivalences on BLM protests, this isn't Biden's let's unify etc. But the one that did give me pause is re: we are rushing through this, we haven't heard any testimony etc. and this is setting up a bad precedence. I agree with this. If this was year 3, I would want the due process. Because we are -6 days and counting, I am supportive of this impeachment but it does give me pause. |
Just when I think the Republican Party can’t sink any lower I listen to these hearings.
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I agree But it does shine a glaring hole on what the hell are we supposed to do about a President that tries to burn things to the ground on the way out. It should be the 25th, but we didn't forsee someone having such a cult following that anyone from his own party speaking out or trying to remove someone so unstable from office would face possible violent retaliation and the end of their political careers. |
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Several false equivalencies were abound for sure. It's pretty telling that the GOP can't tell the difference why the BLM protests were happening and why a group of traitorous morons attempted a coup. The reason for this impeachment isn't normal, so the expediency of this impeachment is totally fine with me. It's all 'on tape', so the evidence is already there, most of the world watched it live, including me. If it was more of he said/she said like the first impeachment was or if someone got a BJ and lied about it, then rushing the process would definitely give me pause. |
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Don't forget, if it happened before the election, then we should let the voters decide. |
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I don't recall what I was listening to (maybe The Press Box) but they made a salient point. When exactly would a wanna be despot who was already in power attempt a coup? Most likely right after having lost an election that is taking them out of power. There's no real reason to try a full out insurrection before then because you're already in power. It has to be a quick impeachment just because of when something like this would be likeliest to take place. |
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Almost forgot about that one. The GOP, the all world champs of kicking the can down the road. |
You've got to hand it to the GOP. Imagine having hundreds of people violently breaking into your place of work (whether their intentions were to capture/murder/etc. or just to frighten/intimidate), going through that trauma, and then less than a week later not being more pissed off that it was incited by and/or could have been called to a halt by a leader in your organization.
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It wasn't the President, our supporters had an insurrection conspiracy in place well before the rally.
That's a hell of a defense for the GOP. |
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Eh, they wouldn't have harmed THEM, just the OTHER guys. |
Scalise is using Lincoln's second inaugural as his defense of Trump.
What happened both before and after that inaugural address, Mr. Scalise? |
The stars of the Dems are all young, but the power is held by the Undying Ones.
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Tapper: "He (McCarthy) knows that when he goes on Fox, we can see him, right?"
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"Censorship" "Accountability" are among the many words Republicans don't know the meaning of, as well as any understanding of the First Amendment. |
So Senate not taking it up until the 19th is good isn't it? +2 more Democratic senators.
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That's really the best defense for the President. He's going to claim that he never ordered or told anyone to ransack the capitol. Personally I'm unaware of him making any direct statements. I don't think he's THAT stupid. I've been wrong before though. Then we're going to be parsing every speech and tweet he's made for the last 4 years. Then there will be claims of bothsideisms. And in the end we will still all hate each other. |
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Just seen some of that, he should be another one removed from office |
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This smells much more like a CYA move. "See we told them not to do it last week". Of course, the President could go on TV and make a short speech conceding, recognizing Biden's win and mentioning him by name and strongly denouncing what occurred. |
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Not sure if this the right thread, but it appears Veritas might have found actual evidence of election fraud in San Antonio
The clips I’ve seen seem to be mixed to helping Dems & Republicans, but it seems the person most linked was Mauro Garza, who lost, and was a Republican (you all probably knew last bit TBF!) San Antonio Woman Exposed by Project Veritas Arrested on Voter Fraud Charges | The Texan Although Veritas seems very shady, and the released video is clearly edited highlights, she apparently admits knowing her services are illegal, and to be charged there must be something there, and on the face of it it seems she offered a bipartisan service |
Trump has now been impeached more times than he’s won an election lawsuit.
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The GOP using the defense that this was planned before the speech must not have watched the debate where Trump said for the right wing extremists to "Stand back and stand by."
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This made me laugh so much I am stealing ;) |
After four years in the highest office in the land and 50 plus years in business, he still hasn't learned not to say the corruption out loud. Quote:
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I read the defense as "his speech couldn't have incited the crowd because he had been inciting the crowd to violence for weeks before that."
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I didn't realize that in Q world Space Force is basically a private military for Trump to use to round up Dems.
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dola
WaPo is saying that Trump is pissed at Giuliani's fees and doesn't want to pay him. |
Hawley sticking to the Trump script to win in 2024.
He may be the antichrist. |
Trump never pays bills. Doesn't everyone know that?
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So, the new arguement is going to be that there is no legal way to have a trial in the Senate on a former president.
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I figured they'd go with something like "he's already gone so what does it matter" defense in the Senate. They shrug their shoulders and only 5 Rs vote to convict. Trump comes back in 2024, wins the nomination and the republic is on death's doorstep.
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